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  1. Unión Minas SEASON REVIEW - 2033 Last seasons run to the final was encouraging, could this be the year we finally become South American champions? League Table - A convincing win which allowed us to avoid having to compete in the championship playoff which was great. We had an identical record for both stages with 15 wins, 2 draws and 2 losses which shows a level of consistency for the team. One of those losses was however a 5-1 loss away to Universitario which was unpleasant but I guess these freak results can occur. Overall, a very good season but there is still room for improvement as I feel we have the quality of team to be breaking the 100 point barrier. Copa Libertadores - A hugely disappointing campaign after the euphoric highs of making the final last season. The signs of our struggle was evident in the group stage as we only narrowly pipped Vélez on goal difference to 2nd place. I thought we might have a chance against River Plate given that the last time we played them we beat them 4-0 at home. Unfortunately, in the 1st leg we just didn't perform and having to overturn a deficit in the 2nd leg in Argentina was always going to be a tough ask. In the end, we went out with a bit of a whimper losing 5-2 on aggregate. This is definitely a worrying sign and I feel that my attempts to close the gap to Flamengo have actually proven fruitless as it feels as if the gap has actually increased dramatically. We need to perform in this competition as it really is our bread and butter in terms of income but the money required to build a strong enough team is becoming a huge obstacle. Domestic Cups - Another domestic treble but I'm beginning to come around to the idea that I might be better off playing the reserves in these competitions given that winning them gives practically nothing in terms of money and reputation. The Supercopa being especially annoying to have to compete in given that it makes us have practically no end of season holiday at all. Reserves - Well done to them to maintain this level of success with vastly different players every season. Under 18s - Encouraging to see them so dominant domestically, the real test will come early next season with their participation in the U20s Libertadores which I'm hoping they will perform well in. Squad - There are a number of problems within the squad which are beginning to seriously hamper our ability to make progress. The first of which being the standard of foreign player we have. Given we only have 5 slots available, they really need to be the best players in the squad but unfortunately some aren't and are just squad players. This is immensely problematic given that they are the highest earners in the squad which brings me to the next problem. The wage bill is completely unsustainable and needs to be sharply cut. This however presents a quandary, how to maintain the ability to compete in the Copa Libertadores (our only real source of income) while making the club more sustainable. The problem being compounded by the fact that I'm not able to raise as much money from player sales as I was hoping. The final major problem being the inability to find an affordable player for the left midfield position. After extensive scouting, there just isn't anyone Peruvian that is better than what we already have and the foreign options are way too expensive. We also don't seem to have anyone coming through the youth ranks for the position. On a more positive note, the youth system has been our saving grace and has provided our best talents which have all been developing well. Transfers - When you look at our finances in the next section you would believe we went on a spending spree but actually only had a net spend of £400K. Mejía MC was a marquee signing as the replacement for Succar MC and had a great debut season although he cost more than I was able to raise from the sale. Portilla MC was way overpriced for his ability but I wanted to have a backup player behind Mejía and he did feature occasionally in the team. I sold Gil ST as he wanted to be first choice but was never going to displace Barboza ST so I thought it best to move him on after he expressed a desire to leave. A similar story with the final 3 outgoings of the summer transfer window, with them all unhappy with game time I decided to cash in which was necessary given the worsening finances. A trio of decent deals for the club while also being good deals for the players who all now earn a higher weekly wage at their new clubs. Especially, Timana ML who has gone from earning a basic wage of £2Kp/w with us to £25.5Kp/w in Qatar. Andy Barboza - ST Average Rating: 7.68 Another great season which resulted him yet again finishing top scorer. Anybody is potentially up for sale but the price will need to be right for him as I can imagine him being very difficult to replace. Kevin Núñez - ST Average Rating: 7.34 He is superb and I'm really hoping when it comes time to sell I can generate a huge sum for him. At the moment, I'm fielding offers which I can bat away but I feel the real test will come in the summer as I can definitely see him moving to Europe. Finances - In the space of one season we have gone from rolling in the cash to living in the trash. We made an eye watering loss this season which has brought into sharp focus how unsustainable our finances are. Cost cutting measures are definitely necessary going forwards or we are going to be in serious trouble. We simply can't afford to make a similar loss next season otherwise we will likely be bankrupt which will begin to reverse all the progress that has been made so far. The only way out of this hole is to try and develop HG talent in the hope that someday it will pay off. My usual strategy at this stage of a club build in Europe would be to bring in talented young players on pre-contract agreements from other countries to develop and sell for profit. I don't think that approach will work in Peru given the foreign player rules and the wage costs so I'm going to have to rely more on the youth department. Facilities - The facilities was improved but any further development will have to go on hold for a while as I look to sort the financial situation out. I'm happy to get them done however as anything which can help develop players is going to beneficial at this point. I'm beginning to get dismayed with the whole stadium situation though. We are missing out on a huge amount of income being stuck in such a small ground. It's clear we need a bigger stadium and even if means taking out a loan then so be it, we can't really lose from making the investment. Youth Intake - A few promising talents coming through once again which is great but still no decent left midfielder. We now have what is considered the best youth department in the country which is encouraging (also a requirement from the board) as I'm hoping that distinction will mean that we draw the best of each generation of players from around Peru to train with us. This is probably the first time in any career I've done where the importance of the youth department has been this critical to the clubs ability to make progress which kind of sucks given the RNG element to it but if life gives you lemons... League Reputation - No progress and given the lackluster performances of the Peruvian team competing on the continent we are more likely looking at a fall before we can consider rising further. Club Domestic Reputation - We get so little boost to reputation from winning Peruvian competitions that I feel we will be stuck on 3* for a while.
  2. What does your current tactic look like? It's perfectly feasible that a team recovers from 2-0 down to win a game 3-2, that happens in real football so there is nothing unrealistic about that. You also didn't provide any context behind the result. Were you lucky to be 2-0 up? Did the opposition have a lot of chances in the 1st half but just didn't take any? I think for the moment you might be better off ignoring the results and instead focusing on the performances of the team. Once the team is consistently playing the way you want then you can start judging the results. You need to give a bit of time for a tactic to bed in if you're playing the full version of FM as tactical familiarity becomes a consideration. Constantly making major changes to your tactics doesn't help the team to gel. When you saw the game starting to turn against your team, what did you spot that the opposition had changed and how did you react to it? IF it's becoming a trend that your team plays well in the 1st half then collapses in the 2nd then you need to assess what you're doing in terms of game management. The longer a game goes on the more factors like complacency and fatigue start to impact the game. You attempt to mitigate those by using the correct team talks/shouts to keep your team motivated and making effective substitutions. Best Regards
  3. A lot of the advice offered by other contributors has been excellent but somehow it's still not helping you to overcome your issues. I feel that you are over complicating things and trying to run before you can walk. For e.g., Why a 5-3-2? Your choice of formation is the most important of all the decisions you will make when it comes to determining how your team will defend. If you want your team to soak up pressure and hit teams on the counter I feel that the 5-3-2WB is a poor choice for that task for a number of reasons. 1) Wingbacks are easily overloaded on the flanks 2) No defensive screen with a dedicated DM and hence more opportunity for the opposition to control the golden zone 3) Loads of space for the opposition to exploit in the channels between your wingbacks and central defenders 4) No early width Are you analyzing your games and watching them in detail? I would personally just start again if I were you and build from there. 1) Choose a formation more suited to the task of soaking up pressure and hitting teams on the counter (like a 4-1-2-3DM, 4-4-2DM, 4-1-4-1, 4-2-3-1DM etc.) 2) Start with the Balanced mentality 3) Play with generic roles (fullbacks, central midfielders etc.) 4) Play with no TIs or PIs and only add them once you have identified a need to add them after WATCHING your matches That way you're not shooting in the dark and making changes based on theory but actually making changes based on what you are seeing which is the best way to learn. However, all that depends on you and your willingness to accept what others are telling you. As long as you keep holding onto ideas such as "you have to play a high line to be successful" then you won't make any progress. All the best
  4. I don't think it's right to characterize the reason why Atlético Madrid won La Liga as being because Simone's played a low mentality throughout. Against teams which he perceived to be better or competitive against his side he did play more conservatively but he didn't when he thought his team was stronger which feeds into my point that playing low mentalities (without alterations) every game doesn't lead to success in the long term. Additionally, when his team has the ball they play a far more progressive attacking style than is offered by a low mentality. His team doesn't really play route one either and actually tends to have more possession than their opponents in a lot of games. I accept that in one-off games or cup tournaments we have seen that passive style occasionally be successful. I wouldn't say that Tuchel set up for the UCL final was like that. He started with a more aggressive approach and they outplayed Man City and but for some poor finishing would have scored a lot earlier than they did, when Chelsea scored he then went more defensive and looked to hit on the counter. That wasn't the premise of your argument though which was that it should be possible to create a low mentality tactic and play it all the time and have the same level of success as if you played a higher mentality tactic. Playing on higher mentalities gives you far more room for error than playing on lower mentalities. If you concede a goal on a higher mentality it's okay as your team still has attacking intent and can score, conceding a goal on a lower mentality and not making any changes can be deeply damaging as there is far less attacking intent so less likelihood of your team scoring especially if the opposition after scoring go more defensive themselves. Mistakes are also far more costly as the majority of the play takes place in your final 3rd. If you adopt a high press and your striker doesn't manage to force a mistake by pressing it's not that big of a issue as the opposition still has to get through the rest of his teammates behind him. No they don't, some managers set their teams up intentionally not to lose especially when a draw would be a good result for them. A team which displays little to no attacking intent doesn't want to score goals and hence is not attempting to win the game. I think you have the misunderstanding here. You can't choose to focus on defense (off the ball) or focus on attack (on the ball) alone, you need to consider both aspects for any tactic you create. In effect, when playing on lower mentalities you aren't shifting the balance between attacking and defending (which the game misleadingly presents). What you are doing is telling your team to be more passive both off the ball and on the ball. One on ones aren't as easy to score as you maybe think they are, the advantage usually lies with the keeper. Having said that, there is more to whether a striker will score a lot of goals than those 3 attributes you listed. Hidden attributes like consistency play a part also. If you are playing on a lower mentality he is also likely getting less opportunities created for him during the game. What that does is add pressure to the fewer chances that do come his way. What's your strikers concentration like? Much like a GK which doesn't really feature much in the game, he needs to remain switched on so that when his moment does arrive he can execute his job. Your defenders may have good tackling, marking, heading, jumping reach and strength but if they don't have the positioning, decisions, anticipation, team work, concentration, work rate and determination those good attributes can be rendered irrelevant. If you want to play more passively off the ball those mental attributes should be prioritized over the physical and technical attributes. How good are your midfielders at the defensive side of the game? You're right, everybody is entitled to their opinion. I don't agree that FM17 (a game I played extensively) is the gold standard but perhaps my opinion of that game has been tainted by my experiences with it. I agree with what you say about the opaqueness of the descriptions in the tactical creator. The difficulty with using descriptors is that things can be interpreted in a multitude of different ways which often leads to confusion and lack of understanding about exactly what is meant. That is why I want to see pictorial representation of concepts in the tactical creator. A picture is worth a thousand words and is a clear and efficient way to communicate to the user. Sometimes football managers don't have a clue what's going on and how to change the course of a game in their favour. Had Pep known exactly what to change in order to win the UCL final do you think he wouldn't have done it? I'll try to explain clearer what I meant with the chess analogy. You stated that when playing chess you knew how every decision you made impacts the game. My point was that you can't know exactly how it's going impact the game unless you're in the end game with few pieces left on the board (hence much fewer variables). The reason is that you don't know what moves your opponent will make until after they have made them. That is in a game which is far less complex than football and becomes less complex as pieces are removed from the board. Therefore how can you expect to know precisely how making tactical change X will impact a football match? It's not something that real life managers would know. If you were trying to say that because you don't fully understand the tactical instructions themselves and that's the reason why you're not sure what impact they would have on your teams play, well, that is a completely different argument which I can empathize with. Bringing it back to the chess analogy (sorry), that would be like saying I don't understand how to use the knight so when I'm playing a game I can't see the impact of what the knight is capable of doing. My only advice then would be to strip it back and only use instructions that you do fully understand (it's the way I play). If you don't understand OIs, don't use them, you don't need them and you can be plenty successful without them. Can't see the impact of a particular TI then get rid of it. Bear in mind that instructions are only tendencies, simply put, if a player can't perform the instruction you have given them they won't do it. For e.g. If you use the Hit early crosses TI but don't have players in advanced wide areas early in attacking moves to deliver those crosses or have players in the box early to receive those crosses the instruction won't get carried out.
  5. @TaPele I think the problem is that you have become attached to the idea that there is a 'defensive tactic' which is causing you problems as in reality there isn't such a thing. You need to change the way you think about the game. There are 4 phases in football, 1) On the ball 2) Off the ball 3) Losing possession transition (when ball is in play) 4) Gaining possession transition (when ball is in play) All that mentalities do is determine how you go about each phase of play. On lower mentalities, all phases are done more passively. Your players defend from deeper positions, press less, make less forward runs, take less risks with their passes etc. What does success mean for a team playing passively? The reason why you don't see many low mentality tactics being successful is simply because that isn't what they are designed for. How many real life teams do you know that consistently play route one or catenaccio football and are successful? Compare that with teams which are more proactive and attempt to take the initiative in their games. Overwhelmingly, it's the teams which attempt to win games which are in general successful and not those which simply seek not to lose. When you say that you are signing players which have good stats for the level. What stats are you specifically looking at? Mental attributes are far more important for passive play whereas physical attributes are more important for more aggressive play. Try signing a lot of players with strong mental attributes (tend to be older players) and see if you still concede the poor goals you do. If you want to play more passively, you need to completely rework your definition of what is a good player and what isn't. I've had success using lower mentalities but I've also said previously that I only use them in specific circumstances and wouldn't choose to play them over a whole season, game in, game out and expect to be successful. If you use them for what they are intended for they can be immensely powerful. However, if you are trying to shoe horn players which aren't suited to it into playing that way it's going to cause more problems and frustration like you are experiencing. @FulchesterFred You are asking for something which is impossible for them to provide. Rolling with your chess analogy, there is no way of immediately knowing the impact of a move until you're in the end game when there are far fewer pieces on the board. That is in a game which has defined rules and far more limitations. Football is far more complicated and doesn't have those sorts of limits. Hence why we have a chess simulation (Deep Blue) which can beat a human player and why we don't have an AI which can stand up to a human without cheating in some way. We have enough information available to us as players to dominate the game as it is. Knowing exactly the consequences of making a tactical change isn't something which real life managers have access to so why should we have it available in a football management simulation? You say that playing on lower mentalities (defensive football by your definition) will lead to them creating a ridiculous amount of chances and you seem think that's somehow incorrect. If you stand off your opponent and allow them to regularly enter into your final third without challenging them they are going to create more opportunities and have more shots. Why is that such a difficult concept to understand? People really seem to struggle with that as it gets brought up repeatedly on this forum and I don't really know why, it's no different in real life football. What exactly do you want SI to say about the subject? The same systems (mentality, player roles and duties) that are in FM21 were in FM17. Similarly, playing on lower mentalities in FM17 led to the same sort of lop sided statistics (shots against, possession, etc.) as there are now. I'm genuinely curious to know what it is about FM17 that was so great that you feel that every subsequent release has been worse.
  6. Unión Minas SEASON REVIEW - 2032 Continue to dominate domestically and attempt to win the title without a need to play in the playoff. I'd like us to go a step further in the Copa Libertadores and get into the final. League Table - We were ruthlessly efficient in the opening stage and won that easily but a few slip ups in the closing stage allowed Cienciano to finish top necessitating the need for a playoff. We aren't quite good enough to fully rotate the squad from midweek continental games and win the following weekends league games easily. I sense that until we have a squad strong enough to do that we will likely have to take part in the playoff. Another disappointing season from Universitario, it's quite disheartening how dramatically they have fallen off. Liga 1 Champions Playoff - After the first leg, we pretty much knew we were champions. I really hope that soon we can avoid having to play these two extra games. Copa Libertadores - A really strong campaign and I was buoyed when I saw the ease with which we won some of our knockout games, especially those against Brazilian and Argentinian opposition. We have however got a major obstacle to overcome when it comes to winning our first continental title. Flamengo are just streets ahead of the competition and it's going to take a lot of work to overhaul them and become the dominant force in South American football. We need to strengthen dramatically in certain areas and hope for a bit of luck. Perhaps drawing Flamengo before the final might be a way we can knock them out given we would get to play them at home which is a huge advantage for us. Domestic Cups - There was some shaky moments, the hammering in the group stage of the Copa Bicentenario being the worst of them but overall another well deserved clean sweep. Reserves - Another comfortable title win for the backup players which is pretty impressive considering how many players in the squad were out on loan. Under 18s - A much improved performance from last time in the U20s Libertadores to get the bronze medal which was pleasing to watch. They looked like possibly making it to the final but unfortunately when it mattered they put in a shocker of a performance. Perhaps playing so much high quality opposition in such a short space of time took too much out of them. I'm very happy to see their development however and the quality of player coming through the ranks recently is encouraging. They once again made light work of it domestically, sauntering to the title with ease. Squad - I'm now looking at Flamengo as the benchmark we should be using to judge the development of the squad, you have to beat the best to become the best after all. I'm not entirely convinced that the gap has actually closed in the period in between our two appearances against them in the final. We have definitely improved but they have also improved leading me to believe that the gap has remained largely the same. Encouragingly, we seem capable of beating everyone else on the continent much more easily but until we can beat them I don't see how we win the Copa Libertadores. I feel that we have enough quality in the defensive line and forward line. The area of concern is definitely the midfield and will be the focus for my attempts to strengthen the team. The need for a pair of top quality central midfielders became very apparent in the final against Flamengo. We simply couldn't exert any control over the midfield which meant that they were able to dominate the game. Ceding the control of the midfield to a team with technically gifted midfielders is asking for trouble. If we were able to have more of a battle for the midfield I sense it would have enhanced our chances of winning by relieving some of the pressure on the defence and creating more chances for the strikers. The left midfield is also looking a bit weak and will need to be strengthened. We had a bit of bad luck with injuries this season with new signing Mikuletic MC (who was intended to strengthen the central midfield) and Nunes MR suffering terrible long term injuries. I think as a result we are likely to see Nunes leave the club at the end of the season as his contract expires. Transfers - A good amount of profit was made in the transfer market. I was disappointed to lose Carrizales MR to FC Porto for his release fee as it weakened us dramatically on the right flank but I was more than happy to be able to put a sell-on clause into the deal. That clause ended up being very lucrative for us when we cashed it in for over £5M which will be hugely beneficial for us going forward in kick starting the selling club model. In fact, the board now insist as part of the club vision that we start to look to develop players to be sold for profit which is exactly where I want to position the club. I attempted to replace Succar MC with Mikuletic MC but owing to injury and him not quite being good enough it has convinced me that I need to go into the market again. The Martinez DR sale was a good deal for the club and as he expressed a desire to leave, I was more than happy to take the money and re-invest it in players like Caro DL and Rodriguez DR who both look to have a lot of untapped potential. Perhaps their fee was a little bit more than I should have paid but I have to keep in mind the U20s and 5 foreign player squad requirements in Peru. Given they are some of the most talented young players in the country the demand for them is going to be higher hence playing an inflated price. Jacobo GK was definitely way overpriced but he was the best young Peruvian goalkeeper I could find. Similar story with Jair Rodriguez MR and Vara DC who were both expensive but are developing really well so I consider to be worth the money. Andy Barboza - ST Average Rating: 7.70 A brilliant season from the record signing. He was player of the year in Liga 1 whilst also being the top scorer. Additionally, he made his debut for Peru and has established himself in that squad, the future is looking very bright for him. The only downside being that his market value is far lower than the price I paid for him so I've just got to hope that doesn't initiate interest from a place that he actually wants to go (like Europe). So far the only interested teams are from China and he doesn't have any interest in moving there at the moment even though he would earn a lot more. Kevin Núñez - ST Average Rating: 7.47 I'm delighted with his progress this season and it is always nice to see a HG talent come through the ranks and establish themselves in the first team. He is another player to have broken into the Peruvian national team which is some achievement when you look at the caliber of striker they have available to them. I'm a little more concerned about losing him than Barboza as I'm having to field offers from the USA for him in addition to China. At the moment he is happy to stay but if he has another season of development next season like he had this year I can definitely see him garnering the interest of some European clubs. If that were to happen I don't see what I could do to prevent him from leaving as he would have outgrown the club. Finances - We are now rolling in cash and as we have been given a nice large transfer and wage budget I should have the tools available to significantly strengthen the squad. Facilities - I'm really disappointed that I was only able to improve the youth facilities as when I asked and pleaded with the board for a new stadium and improved training facilities I was rejected. I don't really know what the board are waiting for when it comes to building a new ground as we badly need it. We have an average attendance well over 90% of capacity, we have the money, have the highest ticket prices in the country by some distance and aren't restricted by any new build rule so I'm baffled as to why the board don't think the fan base is large enough. Improving the training facilities is also a critical component of becoming a selling club, the board rejecting that while simultaneously now expecting us to develop and sell players for profit is a bit of a blunder from them in my eyes. Youth Intake - A nice intake with a few high potential youngsters coming through. If we can get a player of the quality of Nuñez ST come through every year or every other year we will not only save a lot of money but will really begin to build something sustainable for the long term. League Reputation - Reputation remained largely the same which seems about right. The Peruvian teams aren't getting much luck in terms of the draws. Cristal had a Copa Libertadores group with 2 Brazilian teams and an Argentinian team and only managed to win 1 game. Cienciano were drawn into our group and also only managed to win 1 game. It wasn't any better in the Copa Sudamericana either with both Peruvian teams that qualified for the group stage ending with only 1 win each. I'm really hoping that buying players from other Peruvian clubs for over the odds prices might help them to develop but it doesn't seem to be helping them so far. I'm also concerned that Universitario are looking to move to a new ground with half the capacity of their current one. They really need to be further up the table and competing in continental competition. Hopefully, the £1.2M I spent on buying Rodriguez DR from them can be invested in improving their squad as we need them alongside Allianza Lima to help build up the nations reputation. Club Domestic Reputation - On the rise but I can't see us getting any further stars until we bring home that Copa Libertadores title.
  7. Season 2032 EL FINAL EL LUGAR The home of Brazilian football, the Maracanã, will host the showpiece event this year handing home advantage to Brazilian giants Flamengo for the final (as if they needed any further help) even though they have been allocated as the away team. Being hosted in their home country means they can expect to get the majority of the 78,383 sell out attendance with estimates of as few as 3,000 Unión Minas likely to be in attendance. Our squad Their squad Our squad is definitely stronger than it was the last time we faced them in the final but that doesn't really mean all that much when you consider that they have a number of players that earn more per week individually than our entire weekly wage bill. This is going to be a real tough ask and I see relatively little reason to be optimistic about our chances in this game. On the plus side, they are missing one of their regular starters in Dedeco to suspension and have a few unregistered players but even with that they still have immense strength in depth. Final Here's how the two teams lined up: It's going to take a miracle, quite frankly. At least Raverta isn't starting but looking at their other central midfielders they aren't really losing much in terms of strength with him being on the bench. Mizael is a wonderkid (in fact every player 20 or younger in their first team is) and Almada is an experienced Argentinian international who has been there and done it all at the age of 31. Our best hope lies in trying to frustrate them for as long as possible and attempt to hit them on the break. If we can get to half time and still be in the game I think our chances will improve substantially but that is easier said than done. 2nd time lucky?
  8. Season 2032 Since the last meeting of the two sides in the final of 2029, the Brazilian giants have picked up a further Copa Libertadores title having managed to retain their title in 2030. The class of 2032 looks to be even stronger than it was 3 years ago and their Peruvian opponents know they are in for a tough game if they hope to win. They are the most decorated team in the competitions history and have a total of 8 trophies to their name. They are odds on favourites to make it 9 but if there is a slight weakness for Unión Minas to take encouragement from is that in last seasons competition they were knocked out at the quarter final stage proving they aren't invincible. They are a huge club with a huge following which has witnessed them win every Brazilian league title since 2019. The only thing missing for them now being a Club World Cup title which they have come tantalizing close to winning in the 2029 and 2022 seasons losing both finals narrowly to European opposition. They were drawn into Group G alongside Caracas, Oriente Pertrolero and Club Atlético Vélez Sarsfield, they managed the following results. They absolutely rampaged through the group scoring 29 goals and conceding only 1, a devastating record showing they meant business this season as they sought to reclaim their place at the top of South American football. Their group finished as follows: Utterly dominant form to take into the knockout stages where they would face River Plate. After a shock 1st leg defeat thanks to an injury time winner from their Argentinian hosts, there was perhaps a sniff of an upset, that was however quickly dismissed with an outright demolition in the return leg as they stormed to a 5-0 lead by half time. The ease with which they dispatched one of the best teams in South America putting the rest of the teams on notice. The quarter final draw saw them pitted up against fellow Brazilian team Botafogo. Another tie which proved easy work for the team with a comfortable aggregate win to see them into the semi-final where they would face another Brazilian team in Grêmio. Perhaps a slightly tougher challenge but another relatively easy passage through to the final. They even managed to win after going down to 10 men in the 2nd leg showing the level of comfort-ability they enjoyed in the tie. They have a team filled with outstanding players and it will take a huge under performance in the final for them to fail to lift the trophy for the 9th time. Key to their success during their campaign so far has been talisman midfielder Christian Raverta who is the teams highest assist provider and prolific Mexican international striker José Manuel Gutiérrez who is the leading scorer. When you look at the two teams contesting the final, this shouldn't even be a contest and if the Flamengo players perform up to the standard they have so far in the competition they should easily win without much resistance but anything can happen in a final and they will need to guard against complacency.
  9. Season 2032 Appearing in their 2nd Copa Libertadores final in 3 years, Unión Minas will go into the final as heavy underdogs once again as they look to make history and become the first club from Peru to win the biggest prize South American football has to offer. Having established themselves as the pre-eminent force within Peruvian football having won the last 4 Liga 1 titles in a row, their loyal fans will be hoping they can cap off a remarkable ascent from amateurs to the top of South American football within the space of 12 years. They were drawn into Group E alongside Argentinian giants River Plate, Brazilian team Club Athletico Paranaense and fellow Peruvian club Cienciano, they managed the following results. A surprisingly strong showing against what on paper looked a tricky group. The only slight blemish being an away defeat to River Plate but overall an excellent group stage campaign. Their group finished as follows: Topping a difficult group would have been greatly encouraging and gave them great confidence going into the knockout stages where they would face Argentinian team Club Atlético Vélez Sarsfield. A brilliant pair of performances from the Peruvian team which saw them ease comfortably into the quarter final. More encouragingly, the 1st leg performance showed the dependence on home form to make progress appears to have been broken. Next up was a real tough test as they once again faced Santos F.C. who they have played in every season they have competed in the Copa Libertadores. After the first leg, it looked highly unlikely that they would be able to get past a strong Santos F.C. side but a remarkable turnaround at home saw them narrowly edge out their Brazilian opponents. The final hurdle they would have to navigate to get to the final would be to get past defending champions Corinthians. A remarkable result as they once again score 8 goals in a knockout tie. An incredible performance in Brazil saw them all but book their place in the final. The ease with which they won sent out shock waves across South American football and perhaps will give Flamengo pause for thought as they go in the final to face them. That being said they are still huge underdogs against Flamengo which have established themselves as the dominant force in South American football. In order to stand a chance of making history against their illustrious opponents they will need to rely on two of their key players in star central defender José Diaz and record transfer signing striker Andy Barboza. Coming on the back of an impressive campaign so far they will hoping that they can upset their Brazilian opponents and claim a great victory. You sense for them to stand a chance the whole team are going to have to put in a great performance and hope that complacency makes their opponents under perform. They definitely have momentum going into the final and they will hope that they can use that to their advantage.
  10. I don't agree with that. Defending in a low block isn't easier it's just less energy intensive than playing a pressing style (which I agree isn't nearly punishing enough). Defending passively in a low block requires a completely different profile of player to carry out effectively. You could argue that it's far easier to get players which suit the attribute profile to carry out a more pressing style of defending than you can for a more passive style. All you really need to press is to have a team that has relatively strong physical attributes, there is also a great degree of overlap in terms of attribute spread for your more attacking players (for e.g. it's very easy to find players who play in the ML/MR position which have good stamina, acceleration and work rate which are all very useful attributes if they are expected to press). On the other hand, for a more passive style you need very strong mental attributes, there is also very little overlap in terms of attribute spread for your more attacking players (for e.g. you'll find it hard to identify players who play in the ML/MR position that have good concentration, positioning etc.)
  11. I think I have gone over this with you previously, the point of mentality is to act as a simplification for the AI and user. I agree that the way some are set up is flawed and that could be improved but removing them entirely doesn't actually solve the problem. Instead it creates far more problems, how would the AI cope when it already struggles with mentalities? Lower mentalities aren't useless, it doesn't matter how many times people keep proclaiming them to be so, it doesn't make it any more true. Of course there aren't any on the T&T forum because those tactics are all about scoring a lot of goals and overachieving. You can't do that with a tactic on a lower mentality as those are designed mainly to defend. A lot of the reason why players will download a tactic is because they want a proven successful system. There simply isn't a market for players looking for a tactic which may be more solid defensively but comes at the cost of scoring much fewer goals. You can create solid counter attacking tactics on lower mentalities but it has to be done with the right team. For e.g. you can't expect to be successful with a counter attacking approach with one of the better teams in the division as opposing teams aren't going to be adventurous in bringing men forward to give you the space to counter them. Additionally, building an approach around counter attacking is one which is most dependent on how the opposition plays against you whereas other more proactive approaches aren't as dependent. Cheers
  12. Playing on a low mentality isn't pointless at all. Just don't expect to be successful with it as it isn't designed for that purpose. If you allow your opponent to progress unchallenged into shooting positions on a regular basis they are unsurprisingly going to take a lot of shots, that's just common sense. The fact that there is less space in your final third as you correctly identify actually encourages them to have more shots not less. If there is no forward pass available to progress their attack as everyone is marked then if the opponent is close enough to goal they are going to shoot. The majority of those shots weren't dangerous but from sheer weight of numbers, statistically, some are going to find their way into the back of the net. Especially against one of the best teams in the world but even still they were only able to convert just over 6% of the shots they ended up having which actually isn't bad. That being said, your game plan was completely wrong for that game and that's why you got beaten in the manner you did. You set up to be a complete pushover and completely nullified the strength Spurs has and that is on the attack. You played that game like you were terrified of Man City and just sat back and hoped that you could keep them out, why?. There was only one team trying to win that game and that was Man City. After you went a goal down and you saw that the game plan wasn't working why didn't you change anything? Why are some players so reluctant to make changes? I can't understand it. This is a management game and knowing what to do when things aren't going your way is a key component of management. Being a passive observer and just allowing things to happen is in my view dreadful management and you might as well just stick a scarecrow in the dugout. You may not have the correct solution to the situation but at least try to do something to change things, anything!. Incidentally, even short players can win headers if they are unmarked. Maybe instead of trying to explain it using a conspiracy theory that the game result is already determined maybe a more productive use of your time would be to look into your defensive corner routines. If you are allowing players like Sterling and Silva to win headers against you from corners there is something desperately wrong with how you are setting up. I very rarely concede goals from corners but then again I can't recall a game where I conceded 22 corners either. Best of luck
  13. The reason why I can see your AMR and AML not performing well is because the tactic encourages your team to play through the middle. The 2 playmakers in the centre are acting as ball magnets. As a result, your wide players are going to see the ball much less than they would otherwise especially since you are instructing your players to look for short passes. If players you expect to attack aren't getting on the ball then how are they supposed to perform well? The solution therefore is to get the ball to them more regularly with them in space and let them do what they do best. Good luck
  14. I agree with the suggestions others have made. What is your reasoning for setting things up the way you have? I can't understand why you would go all out to try and win the ball back as soon as possible only to then do nothing with it once you've regained possession. Why is it important that the striker is involved in the buildup when you have 3 creatively minded players behind him? If I were defending against your team I would congest the central areas as that would severely blunt your attacking threat. If you are one of the better teams in the division, I think that a lot of teams would adopt that approach against you and explains the number of blocked shots as there simply isn't any space. You need more width and depth to your attacking play and to add some unpredictability, teams can currently read you like a book. All the best
  15. No argument from me, you're completely accurate in what you say.
  16. I think the problem here lies in using the same metrics to define success in a higher mentality tactic and a lower mentality tactic. This kind of thinking is exactly the problem. Of course a lower mentality based tactic isn't going to outperform a higher mentality based one. One seeks to create chances to score more than the other. It would be utterly bizarre if using a lower mentality resulted in a tactic that was more effective at attacking than a higher mentality one. Ultimately, the whole purpose of football is to outscore your opponent so therefore I don't understand why it would be a shock to anyone that choosing an approach which is more geared toward scoring goals would be more effective. What I would add though is that I feel that playing high tempo, high pressing of a higher mentality perhaps isn't punished enough in the ME which may go some way to explain why they are OP. Seeing repeated examples of human controlled teams storming up the leagues playing a gegenpressing style from the 8th division to the Premiership is ridiculous and needs changing as it's completely unrealistic. Teams which are amongst the worst in a league trying to play on a higher mentality against better teams should really be getting battered on a regular basis rather than being able to over perform to the extent they are currently able. It feels as if all the downsides of using such an aggressive approach aren't really being represented in the ME. The fact that on promotion I don't ever have to think about altering my tactic to make it more cautious is indicative of the problem that exists. Best Regards
  17. Can you name a successful team IRL that parks the bus every week? I can't and the closest example I can think of is Greece when they won the Euros in 2004 but that was a cup played over 6 games. My point is that being passive defensively and barely attacking doesn't lead to success IRL over the longer term so why would it be successful in a game that is supposed to be simulating football? Contrary to popular belief, I actually think playing on a lower mentality is far riskier than a higher mentality. Being passive and allowing your opponent into dangerous areas of the pitch unchallenged exposes your team to a great amount of danger. You are intentionally ceding control of the game to your opponents and challenging them to try and break you down. The problem with the approach is that your game plan gets reduced down to trying to be clinical with the few chances you get (the AI can do it, hence the term getting FM'd) and hoping that your defending is flawless for the entire game which is a huge ask especially if your team is one of the worst in the league. It's an approach which relies on the opposition's attack being incompetent rather than your defence being amazing especially when they are the better team. I gave examples of where I use lower mentalities but as I also said it's not something I would use every game, all game, throughout an entire season and expect to be successful with. It's simply not designed for that purpose and is why when you see a lot of the so called 'supertactics' they don't tend to feature lower mentalities. I agree with your last paragraph about the subjective and confusing terms. However, you've been given some really solid advice by others in the thread to put you on the right track when it comes to trying to create a lower mentality tactic, maybe, you should focus on listening to them rather than following the in-game advice/terms which I think everyone agrees are flawed. Best Regards
  18. Every so often this topic gets raised and emanates from a lack of understanding caused by an unintentionally obtuse tactical creator. The natural and logical conclusion is that defensive mentality = defensive football based on the descriptions given in the tactical creator. As a result, a user would expect that lowering the mentality would make them more solid defensively. Unfortunately, this couldn't be further from the truth. It also leads to the incorrect notion that the lower end of mentalities are useless when players find their team actually becoming less effective defensively while sacrificing attacking potency. Lower mentalities can be useful but you need to know what you're doing in order to make them work and more importantly you need to understand what the purpose behind them is. In my view, the purpose of them isn't to defend better but instead to defend more passively. That is why using a tactic which is designed to defend more proactively and then thinking that by dropping the mentality it will become stronger defensively is incorrect and usually can actually make you worse defensively. I seldom use them to start a match regardless of the opponent as so much of my game plan in terms of defending, transitions and attacking is tied up in a more proactive (positive) style. I do however use a lower mentality in specific circumstances in a match where a more passive approach is more suitable. For e.g. If I'm looking to hold onto a narrow lead toward the latter part of the game I may drop to cautious accompanied by a switch of duties of my attack duty full back to defend. Another example, my team has a comfortable lead against a weak opponent and I want to preserve my players condition then I might drop the mentality to defensive to vastly reduce the intensity of the tactic. The attribute profile for your players to use a lower mentality effectively is completely different from that of a higher mentality. I think that point is often forgotten, lowering mentality isn't some sort of magic switch that can make players which can't defend suddenly become prime Maldini's. Remember, by lowering the mentality, you are giving more of your players an increased amount of defensive responsibility. As a result, I wouldn't expect a cautious mentality to work well unless my midfielders were good defensively, similarly I wouldn't expect a defensive mentality to work well unless both my midfielders and forwards were good defensively. It's a shame that after all these years we still find ourselves in this situation but until the tactical creator is made more transparent we are going to be stuck in this cycle where the advice on the forum often contradicts what is presented by the game. As for changing the labels of mentality to improve matters, I'm not sure what that would really achieve as it has already been done (for e.g. Counter -> Cautious, Control -> Positive) and we still have this problem. Scrapping mentalities altogether has been suggested before also but what would you do to replace it considering it acts as a simplification for both the user and the AI. In my view, that just adds busy work in an already click intensive game. Changing mentalities rather than being a 2 click operation would become very unwieldy, having to deselect every TI for a mentality then having to select every TI for the mentality you wanted to change to, that would be an absolute nightmare, in my opinion. That is why I've always advocated for a more pictorial representation of tactical concepts in the creator which I see as being far less ambiguous rather than this relativistic version we have to work with now. I do however appreciate that creating such a thing in game is easier said than done.
  19. I sense you're misguided when you make dramatic changes to your tactic (for e.g. changing the formation and starting mentality) based on the assumption that you should be dominating teams in terms of chance creation. You're sitting pretty, undefeated at the top of the league with a team which I'm not sure anyone was tipping pre-season to be title contenders and many thought would struggle to get into the top 4. In essence you are currently overachieving and seem to be nitpicking at this point. You simply don't have the players to dominate every game and you need to realistically appraise your teams performances with that in mind, I feel you are perhaps being too harsh. You are not going to play brilliant, fluid football every game and I think it's unrealistic to have that expectation unless using some sort of exploit tactic. If you can, in your words, not play well and still be overachieving then that is a reason to be cheerful not downbeat as it indicates you are going in the right direction. It's a process you have to go through and improve incrementally with your philosophy of how you want the team to play. At the start of a save, remember you are playing with very few if any of your own choices for players so it's always going to be difficult to fit players into the roles you want. As I said before though, it makes more sense to utilize players in roles which they may not be the best in but suit the tactic rather than trying to accommodate your players in their favoured roles which doesn't suit the tactic. For e.g. In my view making a SS work in a possession based approach is awkward not only that but the combination of an AF/SS isn't particular balanced as they both want to run into the channels but who is creating that space for them? You just have to accept that this is a compromise you might have to make for now. Gradually over time as you begin to move on players that don't suit the style of play and bring in your own players you will begin to see improvements. Resist the temptation to keep making changes all the time. When you finally lose a game (which you inevitably will) don't take that as a reason to rip up the whole tactic because you feel that the tactic isn't right. Instead try and understand why you lost and look at what could be done to improve, you'll find a lot of the time the issue isn't even tactical. Have some patience, looking at the tactical familiarity, the team aren't anywhere near fluid. You have to give the team time to understand what you want from them, if during that process you can still get results that's all the better I say. Best Regards
  20. Tactic looks more balanced than before so for that. As to how you try and prevent the 2v1 situations against the wingbacks. Unfortunately, you are never going to eliminate this completely as they are the only players whose responsibility is to defend the flanks. Perhaps putting your MCL and MCR into the Carrilero duty could work with the AP(A) pushed into the middle. That way they will attempt to cover more for the wingbacks. I feel having a back 3 affords you more freedom to play without a defend duty central midfielder so wouldn't be concerned that would be adding too much risk. You could also build your defensive plan around actively encouraging them to cross the ball and use the outer central defenders to tightly mark the intended targets in the box. My only question would be why you are playing with a lower defensive line while adopting a sweeper keeper? All the best
  21. I'll try to address your points in the order you raised them. You say the 5-2-2-1 suits the players you have, may I ask what you are basing this on? Do you have a pair of great wingbacks? I think it's imperative that they are as they will be getting no support to fulfill their attacking or defensive responsibilities and are the only source of width you have. Wanting Immobile to be your main goalscorer is perfectly reasonable. What are his strengths and what kind of service does he need to perform at his best? You say that you want SMS running from deeper to get into the box but who opens up the space for him to do that? When you say you want to see through balls played for Immobile what do you mean by this? Long range balls over the top from the DLP? Shorter range passes from the AP Alberto? What kind of crosses do you want to see? Are SMS or Immobile particularly good in the air? Are your wingbacks good at crossing the ball? Does the tempo of your attacks allow your wingbacks to regularly get up the pitch into positions from where they can cross? Finally, who is drawing the opposition fullbacks narrower in order to give space to the wingbacks so they can cross? Playing a high pressing system sounds a good idea on the surface considering that you are adopting a top heavy formation but when you look a bit deeper it could be an issue. If you played with a high LoE so that you expected your press to start with your front 3 I could see that forcing the opposition down the flanks as that would be where the space is. The problem with that is it would expose the vulnerability of the formation you've chosen. You don't want teams regularly attacking you down the flanks where they can easily outnumber and overload your wingbacks. That is probably why you are observing your fullbacks struggling to block crosses, they can't cover for two players. If they go and close down one of the wide players, the other is left open and can cross the ball practically unchallenged. I don't think defending wider or getting them to tackle harder will help. It's a fundamental weakness of playing with only 1 wide player on each flank. The only way to mitigate it in my view is to try and force the opponent into attacking you centrally where you are stronger. I agree with @Experienced Defender with regards to the WBIB instruction. Why play wingbacks if you don't want crossing to be a major component of your attacking play? I also agree with @Crazy_Ivan, it makes far more sense to try and mould a team to play a system that you fully understand rather than try to concoct something based on the players you have available. The trouble with that approach is that very often teams don't have particularly balanced squads and trying to fit in all the best players in their best roles and duties can be a headache at best and impossible at worst. Unless you are going to try and replicate precisely the tactic you see their current manager play you are always going to have a problem of square pegs in round holes until you mould the team in your image. I'd much rather play a lower ability player in a role which suits the tactic than have a higher ability player in a role which doesn't, I had to learn that the hard way. It was only when I saw one of the poorest players in the first team vastly outperform my first choice MC who was injured that the penny finally dropped. Therefore I wouldn't get too hung up on the ability of the so called 'lesser' players in the squad, you'd be surprised how well a player can perform in a coherent and balanced tactic. Hopefully, I have given you something to think about. Cheers
  22. Talking from personal experience, I've run a simple 4-4-2 with minimal instructions for years and only really make in-game tactical changes when I identify issues. The key is understanding the formation you are using and knowing what its strengths and weaknesses are. Maximize the strengths and attempt to mitigate the weaknesses. The best piece of advice I can offer is to WATCH your matches in detail and ANALYZE what you are seeing. If you are struggling with that perhaps posting some .ppms of the matches where your team lost on here can help. Ultimately, you need to have a plan of how you want to see the team perform and start building from there. Saying you want to create a possession based tactic is too vague in my view and it doesn't help others to help you because everybody has a wide range of differing opinions of how they would create such a tactic. You need to be asking yourself and answering questions such as: Who do you expect to be your main goalscorer? How are you going to create goal scoring opportunities for them? Who creates space when your team attacks and who do you expect to exploit that space? How are you going to defend? Are you going to attempt to press or hold shape? When are you going to attempt to win the ball back? Do you have players that are capable of playing the way you want? How are you going to treat transitions? Once you can answer those questions you will have clear idea of what you are looking to build and also a firm foundation for how to build it. Finally, tactics aren't the totality of the things you need to consider when trying to get your team to perform. For e.g. looking at your bench, your players are in appalling condition in terms of fitness which indicates to me that you aren't rotating enough and you aren't making your squad players available for the reserves. Bench players need to be fit and raring to go much like your first choice players as you could be depending on them to come off the bench at any time and have an impact. How are they supposed to do that when the majority aren't even close to being match fit? All the best
  23. I like the BWM(S) in a 4-3-3 as one of the central midfielders. I feel it's a good role to use on the side of an attacking fullback as it can help 'buy time' for the fullback to recover should your attack break down and they be caught high up the pitch. Personally, I would never use one as my holding midfielder thus have never used one in the defend duty. I've found they are simply too unreliable for that purpose. You have to be able to depend on your holding midfielder being where you need him to be, if he's not then that can be hugely detrimental to your defense, especially painful during counter attacks. I wouldn't utilize one in a 2-man central midfield either although I suppose alongside a more stable holding partner or in a 2 DM setup the risk could be mitigated somewhat. To answer the question more directly, use the BWM under any circumstances. Much like any other role, as long as you understand what is required to make the player in the role thrive then you can make it work.
  24. Contrary to the general consensus, I actually feel that your choice of roles is relatively poor if the objective is to create a tactic that will dominate possession. You have way too many roles which want to attempt risky passes and as much as your TIs attempt to counterbalance that risk I think you may have overdone it in the other direction. In my view, playing possession football is more than simply focusing on the ball carrier. You have to think about the ball receiver also. What I see is a front 3 that is very static which is going to make your objective of passing through teams very difficult. You have too many pivots and not enough movement around those pivots. At most, you should have 2 pivots in a tactic, a defensive one and an attacking one. In your tactic, you have a BPD, an IWB, a DM, a DLP, a WTM, an IF and a DLF. All of which are either static roles by default or have been made so which all need movement around them to function well. Personally, I agree that there is an overkill of instructions but simply removing them without purpose I don't think helps you. Having 20 instructions may not be my cup of tea but could very well be necessary for the style of play you want to create. The point being that as long as you can justify the inclusion of every instruction selected then it's fine. How you determine whether an instruction is worthy of being in your tactic is by watching your games in detail and assessing whether they are contributing what you want. Throwing the baby out with the bath water I don't think is a sensible way of trying to improve understanding of tactics.
  25. The line of engagement as I understand it instructs the team when they should start looking to retrieve the ball from the opponent. I have no doubt that it can be made to work provided you have the right profile of player AND you have the right setup of roles and duties. I feel that in order to make a lower LOE work you either need to put more players in your defensive third like you have done by withdrawing your 2 CMs in the tactic you posted OR be far less aggressive with the pressing especially in a flat 4-4-2 which has a lot of space in between the lines to defend. Given that it's one of the worst teams in the league I think that necessitates more of the team contributing to defending otherwise it's possible to get overrun when trying to defend mainly with only your defensive line. Playing a lower line of engagement isn't proving to be beneficial, the OP hasn't kept a single clean sheet in the league therefore it's reasonable to question its inclusion when trying to offer help to improve the tactic defensively. As I understood it, the in-possession tempo instructions have nothing to do with counter attacks. When a team is counter attacking that is a special category of it's own (the way it works might have changed). Therefore playing a higher tempo just gives the player on the ball less time to consider their next action when your team has possession. I don't see this as being a good idea as it is likely to lead to less possession overall given the lower quality of player which likely will not be able to operate as effectively at an elevated tempo, As a consequence, this will give more possession to the opposition and make for more defending for your players to have to do. Cheers
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