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18 minutes ago, XaW said:
You don't get why the devs won't interact here, when you specifically asked for changes to the staffing? You cannot both expect to say what you want, and still have the possibility of a nice dialog.
The devs used to be here a lot and talk about features and changes on a regular basis, but when they get told to find something else to work on (which you eluded to in your deleted post), why would they? After all, they usually did so on their own time because they are invested in the game.
Most of us would love for more devs to come back and chat, but honestly, I have no problem seeing why they don't. Posts like the one we deleted of yours, are an exact reason as to why.
I stated that I would highly appreciate changes in top management. This could also be a change in attitude. So I still don´t see which line I crossed.
In what world do you live?
Considering the size of the community, receiving criticism and even insults is guaranteed. But, unfortunately, that´s life, and as long as you are in the business of selling games, that´s something you have to swallow.
In my opinion, it´s exceptionally disrespectful not to involve the community in the long-term plans, especially considering the massive impact of community content on the overall quality of the game.
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8 minutes ago, FrazT said:
In the post 2 above your last one, I asked that while criticism and discussion was fine, to leave out the personal comments about the developers- as indicated therefore, your post will be removed and any more like this will get further action
24 minutes ago, bluestillidie00 said:Football Manager has such a large user base that everyone is gonna want something different. This is isn’t a small indie game, features are planned years in advance.
Besides, i don’t blame staff for not coming in the forum. It’s incredibly toxic and i know first hand what seeing constant criticism has on your mental health.
On this forum, it’s probably 35:65 people who love the game vs people who complain about it. Imagine how horrible that is for people who busy their arse, trying to make people happy, just to get shat on because the ui looks a bit naff or animations aren’t great. At least i can down tools when i get annoyed with the community like i did with TCS, they can’t
Well, criticism and people who cross lines are part of the business, and while no one expects that every SI employee is active here, there should be a community manager.
Sorry, I don´t get your point. So because features are planned years in advance, is why there is zero interaction with the community? Please take a look at SCS.
I also don´t get why my post was deleted. I didn´t cross any of the mentioned lines. I´m out of here, way too much disrespect for long-time customers.
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2 hours ago, Erimus1876 said:prot651 "3D looks nothing new . Same old stadiums .. yawn .. The game and the game play needs a shot in the arm along with the stadiums and visuals . "
I agree. New managerial features are always welcome of course, but I wish they'd give the visuals a much needed overhaul one year, or at least try and get them back to where they were in FM17 (which, graphically, was by far the best looking FM).
Even FM11 had better looking pitches, lighting, and stadiums than the last three versions of FM.
FM17 visuals for comparison...
This comes up every year. I know SI doesn´t like to communicate with their community but did they ever comment on this?
I see it coming. In 2050 we are still looking back at the glorious 2017 match engine. Until then, they add some new animations every year.
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Same as every year: Disappointing!
I don't care about features that get annoying instantly and the yearly pinker skin.
Admittingly, there were more significant improvements to the match/graphic engine last year, but it's by far not enough. It's the heart of a football simulation. I'm sorry, but it's a failure as long as there is no difference between a non-league match and the Champions League final.
When I look at the development for the last 10-15 years, especially how they celebrate themselves, it's disappointing, and I don't sympathize with SI. A similar-sized studio like SCS is doing a much better job.
Yes, I know it's only a first trailer, and I could wait for the demo, but it would be naive to believe in massive improvements.
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Wouldn´t it be a good idea to first improve the vintage graphic engine?
In its current state, it can´t even display the differences between the Champions League final and an amateur game.
Weird priorities.
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I noticed peak current/potential abilities. This is new, right?
I wonder what this means. Peak abilities in previous database versions?
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9 hours ago, destmez said:
here are some things that may interest you ( go see the last comment If this is really implemented you will not see me here anymore )
Thank you! I missed this.
I just don´t get it why they don´t add the editor. This would add so much to the immersion, while the community would do the real work.But it seems there are already ways to edit stadiums.
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Stumbled upon this one:
I guess this is a real niche product. Still, overall graphics are at least on the same level and regarding the stadiums, IMO they are better.
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1 hour ago, upthetoon said:
an unknown game with unknown developer has about the same quality of graphics as FM20. and FM sells in the millions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4v6wFVJY9w
I would even say graphics are better than FM. And this game is for Android and iOS!
Why does no official ever comment on the lack of progress in this area? This adds to the frustration!
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3 minutes ago, forameuss said:
Because no-one would listen anyway. If you have to have it explained to you that the AI in a game like this is complex, then you're probably the same sort of person who would just ignore anything they said.
And the point is proved by your final statement to be honest, so at least I'm not wrong there.
What?
The AI wasn´t brought up by me. This was another poster. But I would like to hear statements about the long-terms plans in regards of the graphic/match engine and if a stadium editor is something they look into or are even working on it.
So this makes me an ignorant idiot?
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4 hours ago, Neil Brock said:
It's fair enough to be upset about something, but asking for people to lose their jobs because something which is extremely complex doesn't work exactly how you want it to is completely beyond what is acceptable.
Since the AI is often criticized, why don´t you make the effort and provide a one-time statement explaining the complexity of this issue? In the future, whenever this comes up again, the mods could refer to this.
The same applies to other common issues like the state of the graphic and match engine and something like a stadium editor, which was heavily discussed prior the release. Sorry, but a lot of the frustration is caused by poor communication on your end. In my opinion, it shouldn´t be like this. In the end, you are expecting your customers to pay, more or less, for a yearly update. So at least they should know where are you heading.
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1 hour ago, diddydaddydoddy said:
But only individual features have been shown - so how can you comment on the whole game until its out, bought and played?
Oh, I think i can about the direction they are heading. SI creates this huge merchandise drama and then the first new feature they celebrate is a new Skin. THEY set the emphasis. Sorry, this is no improvement! The community creates much better skins for already a decade. It´s a feature that gives uncritical buyers an illusion something has changed.
Again, as long as the world cup final still looks the same like a non-league game the match engine is a failure. This is what they should be working on.
I´m turned off by their communication and self-celebration. At least, they could be honest and switch to a system of yearly licenses. I would gladly pay the same price. But I would´t feel like they are trying to take me for an idiot any longer.3 -
1 minute ago, Neil Brock said:
So people could discuss the features individually - we'd like people to comment within the blogs and engage with other users about the specific features that are announced. There's no ulterior motive to shut anything down. As always on these forums if you want to criticise go for it, just please try and make it constructive.
I don´t buy individual features. I buy a game. Therefore, I would prefer discussing the game as a whole
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As long as the world cup final still looks the same like a non-league game the match engine is a failure. It seems changing this doesn´t have any priority for SI or they are incapable of doing so.
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4 minutes ago, luka_ said:
You are playing the wrong game.
Who cares about training and tactic changes? Really? In a game called Football manager? Go and play Fifa little millenial.
You don´t seem to get that the big tactical overhaul is just a potemkin village as long as the match engine isn´t capable of displaying it.
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17 minutes ago, armbi said:
I meant without improving animations in 3D what is the difference if we got new tactics screen as we won't notice it on the pitch. Ok, you can draw, you can move sliders and that's it, you will never see the representation of this with old match engine.
That´s exactly the point. The match engine is way too bad that it could display any sophisticated tactics. Again, it´s not mainly about the quality of the animations.
So the tactical overhaul is completely pointless.
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Who cares about new looks, changes in training and tactics? They do this every year without any noticeable concept. Often it wasn´t even an improvement.
But in regards of the the matchday experience - nothing! I wonder if this will ever look like a real football game. This doesn´t mean it has to look like Fifa.
So these are the big new features? It´s preposterous calling this a new version of a game. It´s barely an update.
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FM23 Headline Features Revealed
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Even though this has been coming up every year since FM2018, SI never bothered to explain it. I wonder why they even have a forum if it´s not for the exchange with the community. Considering how loyal it is and how much of the game´s success is owed to community-created content, it´s disrespectful.
What surprised me this year was that harsh criticism isn´t removed. Someone even dared to ask for Miles head. When I did this last year, the whole SI staff went berserk.