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4 hours ago, Woodg SI said:

Is that all comps perhaps?

no just premier league

https://www.arsenal.com/history/club-records/the-unbeaten-record

 

scrap that i think you meant in the game was that 29 games unbeaten in all comps??? 

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I know it is a little hard to have a direct comparison and stats are all subjective based upon the researchers opinion / how they apply the criteria. But if you compare Martinelli & Greenwood who both had their proper break through seasons at the same time (2019/20) last year, have been rated quite differently with Greenwood being rated much higher than Martinelli and not sure why? One stat in particular that really stands out for me if is Martinelli's finishing at 12!

whilst I accept Greenwood scored 19 goals last year compared to the 10 goals scored by Martinelli a breakdown of the stats shows they have a very similar goals per game / minute ratio. 

last season Greenwood played in 51 first team games, playing a total of 2744 minutes, the equivalent to 30.48 full  90 minute matches, so his strike rate was equivalent to 0.37 goals per appearance or 0.62 goals per 90 minutes played. 

Martinelli featured in 26 first team games, playing a total of 1463 minutes, equivalent to 16.25 full 90 minute matches so his strike rate was equivalent to 0.38 goals per appearance or 0.61 goals per 90 minutes. 

therefore please explain why Mason Greenwood has finishing of 17 yet Martinelli has finishing of 12 surely one if them is either over or under rated and if Greenwood has finishing of 17, Martinelli's has got to be increased in line with this to at least 15 or 16 minimum.

Martinelli's finishing at 12 is surely a bit unfair, especially given players like Resis Nelson & Dani Ceballos also have 12 and other players that certainly are not renowned for scoring have higher ratings, like Oxlade chamberlain (13), Phil Foden (14) & even Deli Ali (15). 

its also the case that Martinelli has been compared by Ronaldinho (arguably one of the worlds best ever players) to the Brazilian Ronaldo with him stating

"We as Brazilians are very excited about him and his future. It is one thing to have the talent, but another at the age of 18 to have the confidence.

"He reminds me of Ronaldo. His first season in Europe he scored 30 goals and people were thinking: ‘who is this 18-year-old Brazilian kid?’ He wanted the ball, he would run at players, there was no fear no matter what players or team he was playing against—and I see that similar attitude in Martinelli.

"He just wants to be on the ball and score goals. Ronaldo went on to be the best player in the world, and that can also be the aim of Martinelli."

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14 minutes ago, Nick OGS20 said:

Mate, lunch break is about the only time I’m not eating since I started working from home 

Quick maths on best starting XIs:

Liverpool - av.CA 166.8, av.consistency 15.7

City - av.CA 166.5, av.consistency 15.4

United - av.CA 154.1, av. consistency 12.5

That is with leaving some very high CA players out of both Liverpool/City teams, which isn’t a concern for United. I can look at Spurs/Chelsea etc later but I hope that shows there’s a big gap there in how they’re rated and it’s not a case of United being wildly overrated (not sure old middlo82 is interested in such nuance, granted).

Say what you like about me if you wish to result to thinly veiled insults that's fine it shows your true mentality, but perhaps you'd like to explain to me why the AI allows Man Utd to be unbeaten after 32 games first season  & having a GD of 54 when they haven't brought in any additional players - clearly this does not reflect the last 7 seasons so something is either broken in the game or United are overrated. 

I cant be wrong facts are facts & at best over the last 7 years Man Utd have been average IRL, so the "most realistic football simulation" is wrong which can only mean either Man Utd or the players are overrated or more worryingly the game is broken and favours Man Utd's tactic, style of play or something else. 

either way this is unrealistic. 

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28 minutes ago, Nick OGS20 said:

I do agree that we’re overperforming at the moment and we’re trying to get to the bottom of why that is. I think the above shows it’s not a case of ‘blinkered’ research or anything like that - they’re the ratings of a team with the talent to push for top 3/4 but major consistency issues and a manager a bit out of his depth. That seems fair to me - we did finish third last season after all (and most of the ratings will be based on that rather than early stages of a new season that has been plain weird so far - if you cite us being in 14th then you have to look at City, Arsenal etc as well).

 

Thanks for your reply, not meaning to cause offence (so all those jumping on the bandwagon to have a dig at my post jog on), but i have been playing this game since about 1994 when it was known as Championship Manager and i know certainly in the last few years Man Utd are always massive over achievers. 

I have no problem under the Ferguson era, but in the last 7 seasons united have been average at best & seriously lack consistency. I accept you finished 3rd last year but that wasn't through united being good, it was as a result of everyone else being terrible & you still only managed to achieve 66 points, recorded 8 losses & 10 draws. How that reflects in the game is not for me to decide, but if the game cannot replicate Uniteds inconsistency then perhaps the option is to downgrade players.

in the last 7 years uniteds average finish has been 5th place on 68 points, they have averaged 8 losses per year and a GD of around +23. 

no matter what you say for the last few years this has not been reflected in the game & as a long term fan of the game it is starting to really ruin the game. I'd expect  City & Liverpool to walk the league but i don't expect to see Man Utd top after 32 games on 82  points. if they continue this run not only do they do something even Liverpool couldn't do last year & go unbeaten but they potentially equal City's 100 points in a season record. 

lets face it this Man Utd squad is absolutely no match for city's 2017/2018 squad. 

all im saying is it spoils the realism of the game and something needs to be toned down massively on Man Utd's sqaud.

 

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HI, not sure if this is a data issue, but i have seen friends of mine in the game buying Haaland in the first transfer window (Playing as Man Utd & Chelsea). Given he has only just signed for Dortmund in January why is it so easy for them to sign Haaland in the first window?  surely he would be like every other player that has just signed for a club recently and be unwilling to discuss terms? 

also i understand that he might have a £68m release clause in his contract but it is rumoured that the clause wouldn't kick in until summer of 2022 so surely when people are buying him for as little as £70m this is unrealistic especially in the first window. 

 

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6 hours ago, swansongs said:

United's squad rating was considerably below the top English clubs in the end of season review guidelines, much closer to top 6 competition like Leicester and Wolves than Man City and Liverpool.

Well something isn't right in the game, because they are so ridiculously overrated. 

i will admit individually Man Utd have a lot of good players but they don't play as a team and massively lack consistency IRL yet in game they are walking the league on huge unbeaten runs. There is absolutely no way they should be as good as they are and they need to be nerfed before release day otherwise it's going to ruin the game. 

also whilst on the subject of Man Utd, how is it they seem to have infinite money, can pretty much buy any player in the game straight away (subject to finances) and seem to have ultimate pulling power for the top players, they are not really part of the so called big 4 anymore and like you say are more aligned with the likes of Arsenal, Spurs, Leicester & Wolves. 

somebody please sort this out as it is going to ruin the game. 

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Not sure if this is the right place for this but im sure it must be a data issue of some sort, whilst I accept Man Utd are a decent side they haven't been a top side for a number of years, yet in at least the last 3 versions of FM they have been almost unstoppable and massively overrated. This year appears to be no different & something needs to change. 

Man Utd show absolutely no consistency and currently sit 14th in the league on 10 points having already lost 3 & drawn 1 of their first 7 games, however on FM Man Utd seem unstoppable & i have 2 examples from 2 completely different games one is my game & one is a mates. 

My mate is playing as chelsea & is 6 games in, Man Utd have played 6, won 6, scored 14 & conceded 2. 

in my game Man Utd have played 32 won 25, drawn 7 & lost 0 (better than City & Liverpool)

now if this was Liverpool or City sitting top of the league un-beaten i'd accept it but for Man Utd to be this good is just not realistic. 

As far as i am concerned the whole club needs to be seriously modified to affect their consistency, whether it is done as a club thing or to individual players something needs to happen.