MrPompey

I know right haha!

LOL - Its a reference about the real life game yesterday

I have no affiliation to SI other than a club data researcher but from my perspective as a long term buyer / player I have seen ME's get worse on release than they were when Beta was released because a number of bugs have been fixed but have had a functional regression elsewhere in the ME e.g. a little like Wack-A-Mole, smack 1 bug down and 2 pop-up. Im pretty sure all the key bugs that have been identified in Beta will be reviewed by SI but in a 2 to 3 week window I expect the chance to review bugs / fix / test and regression test is too small a window and risk of introducing new bugs significant. In fairness to SI they did say the current ME is stable and from a risk perspective I expect more people will be happy with that one thats been changed and now has new / worse issues. As a long term IT Test Manager than I can say that go-live of products is much based on Risk and its also involves very hard decisions on what bugs / problems go-live may or may not have. Taking away the pressure of a fixed go-live date SI now have the option of longer term fixing / retesting and regression testing without commitment to a patch go-live date. This would be my personal view of the situation Of course we would like a much more stable and bug free ME / Game at point of Beta release and that challenge remains with SI

I think this has been explained at the start of the thread in terms of change between Beta And Full release: ME = No Changes Player Animations = GK animations that looked strange e.g. players saving / diving with feet DB = Minor changes including some key club managerial changes So the changes have been confirmed

Oh, OK. Out of interest do you feel its better or worse and why

If you feel its too expensive I guess then dont buy it. Maybe it was too cheap before

There is NO such thing as bug free software - FACT. So what exactly are the bugs that you have witnessed that mean you cannot play the game?

If you read the notes at the start they said NO ME changes from beta and then explained their reasons why

The issue here if you read the agent's chat is that the player has major reservations / has better options elsewhere. The agent is suggesting you need to sweeten the pot more than the player just being regarded as a star player

I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread that bug logs would get updated

As you asked its an easy one that applies to most companies, not just IT ones. The software will need to be updated each release, you may not notice but the database will change most years so the editor will need to also People and their wages Development costs including licencing Cost of premises rent / electric / heating Ive not looked at Steam software but I would expect in general Steam software DLC and add-on prices will have increased over the years for all / most products My point was not inflammatory but just highlighting that software vendors suffer the same as all companies and individuals do with inflationary pressures. My preferred way of looking at price jumps is to compare i) game price plus add-ons ii) number of hours enjoyment you get iii) cost of a night or 2 in the pub.

Dont listen to the feedback. Many people due to the way the play do not notice issues which some people do

have you checked your food and energy bills in 2023 compared to 2022, 2021, 2020

What is his role in the squad, first team player, squad player? This may limit contract max wage options

Absolutely no problem, Im glad if my response has helped. That will be great if you have details to add / help. In many cases it is normally the youth players that are hard to get the details for and sometimes it takes multiple seasons. Do note that if a CA and PA figures has been input for a youth player, and providing the player type (e.g. deep lying playmaker, target Striker etc) is also entered then the game will generate any missing attributes and will progress this in line with player type in conjunction with his PA, training facilities, coaches, 1st team football etc

You might find for a variety of reasons the quality of attribute data vary per club. In some cases you may only have a few researches covering a league or nation. Some clubs may have an u21 side and an u18 side. Thats a lot of matches to watch, youth players will also progress, or not much more quickly. Higher profile clubs may as you'd expect get greater overview and contribution, players will be higher profile. Perceived future ability may also not be realised, players at different clubs may improve / decline also for a number of reasons. There is a lot of work to keep up. The FM database is the best among all its competitors, many real life managers / scouting staff will use it to help them find players to watch. As you know SI are reliant on its gamer/player database for support in bug finding and database research and they key theme is that we all want to make it better for all of us. This truly makes FM a game of, by and for the people This is a personal view and not one from SI but its clear that to have professional scouting being used to improve FM player knowledge / attribute determination at all levels would be so excessive that the FM Product would likely become unaffordable to the gamers if that approach was taken, it would never happen. hence the current method is a good balance. I would also add that some contributors do have very specific inside knowledge. Im not sure what clubs / nations you see data having specific improvement potential but if you can contribute in some way contact the relevant Head Researcher and ask how you could make a contribution and in what format. Alternatively many contributions to the relevant data forums remembering use of comparison etc as I suggested will help give support and value to the change request as will fully understanding what each attribute actually refers to. Hunt3r above suggested a read of a post suggesting use of templates to contribute potential data amendments which is a great idea. Im not sure how many the total player and non-player FM database amounts to but very quickly you can see thats a lot of people to manage data and data changes for. There will be no easy answer but perhaps start with your favourite club / clubs and make a contribution, thats the best way to make the game and its data better.

The start of the current season IS taken into account and included where updates get made right up until the DB deadlines as you'd expect, There is a lot of work required as an Assistant Researcher and please remember people perform these roles for free for the benefit of all FM gamers. If you have specific details or views then do post in the relevant data section as mentioned in the above post. They will very, very likely now miss Nov 8th but they can be made for inclusion in the Winter Update which is normally available early to mid March following year Players attributes can always be contentious as they are based on individual views. However do feel free to offer fact based opinion in the relevant data forum e.g player x is faster than player y as demonstrated in training matches so that either player x receives and attribute change upwards or player y receives a player attribute change downwards. Younger players can progress their attributes just as older players attributes can decline and subject to age / role / position often have a natural peak. As an AR myself different opinion can always help balance views I also started with Domark on the Amiga and have bought every release since. Fantastic progression of the game from those days!

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Haha yes, thats CPU only cost!

It wont be the cost thats important it will be the spec. One costing £1100 is relatively cheap to be honest and I doubt is even close to best spec PC

Me too. Proves it could be a combination of many things

I have exactly the same issue as Stuniverse. FM 23 was working fine as was Aplha. FM23 Issue appears to have been since the weekend / Monday update for Gerrard In summary game starts, splash screens appear then it disappears / Icon in bottom tool bar disappears Verified file integrity, deleted cache folder, PC reboot and same issue. If the Preferences folder is then deleted that seems to resolve the issue @Lucas

Hi, I can confirm that the No 12 shirt in the database is and remains retired: In the unemployed soak tests that Ive run Ive not seen Shirt no 12 being allocated to anyone

He joined Villa in Nov 21

Pretty sure SI will have an FM road map but there is a thread somewhere to request future enhancements. Not saying it will work but if there are enough FM'rs wanting specific elements targeted for re-work where the request is clear and logical then perhaps this is a way forward that can be explored