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  1. The transfer window is one of the worst features to ever be in the game, in my opinion. Until we know for sure which players will move where in January, a random prediction of the outcome has no place in FM...
  2. Thank you - I had managed to miss them, so apologies. There's a lot of posts in this thread in a short space of time, so I confess I've missed a few. I'm certainly going to steal your idea for the high defensive line too: it may fail horribly with three at the back, but it's got to be worth a try.
  3. Blimey, you got through that quickly. I'm 6 games into the league season, but would love to pick your brains about the 4-1-2-3. On the face of it, my 3-4-3 diamond wide has similar issues (lack of wide players in advanced positions, gap between defence and midfield, many forward players getting in each others way). Do you mind if I ask you a few questions? Did you go with a direct style or something more possession based? Similarly, what sort of fluidity did you use? I hadn't considered defensive forwards, how well did they work out for you? Like yourself, I've ended up with just a single attacking role: I feel a bit more confident about that after seeing your results. I'll also give a quick summary of where I am so far. I've gone through a lot of ideas in the pre-season friendlies, but I've kind of settled on two variations. Both use the same shape and player roles, but differ in mentality and TIs. The more attacking variant is a control mentality, with just work ball into box. The defensive variant is counter, with work ball into box, play narrow, higher tempo & pass into space. Both are structured, and the player roles are as follows: The defensive wingers are crucial: every other role just doesn't provide enough cover on the flanks. Similarly, the DLP gets caught out of position far too often as a roaming playmaker, regista, or a DLP S. Transfer wise, I realised I needed to strengthen up front: promoting Moreno from the B squad still meant just 4 forwards in the squad, so no cover for injuries/suspensions or just resting players. Like almost everyone else, I sold Musacchio to raise money. Again, I followed the herd to sign Balanta to replace him. Up front, I used the rest of the cash to bring in Lacazette, and loan in Harry Kane. I really wanted a target man plan B, but couldn't find a better one than Kane before the window closed. Kane is a decent bet as TM, but I was hoping for the finished article rather than potential. In general, I'm happy with how the team are doing, but I'm really struggling against the 4-5-1 formation (the usual one with a DM and AML/AMR): Admittedly, the Barca one is no surprise, but Sporting Kansas aren't a strong team. We're literally getting crucified: the wide DCs aren't getting out wide to stop crosses coming in, but aren't staying central enough to fight for the resulting ball, while the DWs are simply getting outmanned once an opposing full back comes forward. I'm going to give Herne79s man marking idea a try next time I face a 4-5-1 though. In addition to the crosses problem, the 4-5-1 seems ideally suited to both nullify our creative players and to exploit the gap between our defence and midfield. The positives are that, with the number of skillful and creative players up front in the team, it seems all but impossible to come up with something that doesn't create at least some good chances. The interplay amongst the front three is fun to watch.
  4. First match with the 3-4-3 diamond, and I've learned that my plan is wrong. It was a total mismatch, against a weak opponent in a friendly, but my plan of having the wide mids drop deep to form a back 5 and hit long balls from the back just didn't work: the shape is more 3-3-1-3 (or 3-3-2-2 when the F9 drops deep), than the 6-0-4 I was effectively trying to create: That said, a 12-1 win is still a 12-1 win regardless of the weak opponents. But, I think I may drop the long ball strategy: given the way the midfield actually exists, maybe a more possession based strategy may work better.
  5. The 3-4-3 Diamond Wide is going to be interesting: I think the first XI kind of picks itself for this formation, so that part's simple. How to play it, though, is a bit more complex. The first step is to look at the strengths of the formation: Strengths Attacking threat: 3 STs and an AMC should cause problems for most defences. The players we have for those positions fit well together too, there should be plenty of movement and they're all at least reasonably technical. Central defence: 3 DCs and a DM should be able to at least make the opposition work for goals. Weaknesses Attacking threat: it's great having 4 players up top like that, but how do we create opportunities for them to exploit? Central defence: keeping those DCs central is going to be a challenge. Midfield: we don't have one. This formation, as it stands, just isn't going to do possession football, and there's no one to pressure the opposition in the middle of park so it's going to be completely down to the defence to do the defensive work. So, my first thought is that I want my 2 wide midfielders to be glorified wing backs: If they're dropping deeper, it should help to keep the DCs in the middle, rather than having the two outer DCs drifting wide. The DCs are reasonably rapid - 13/14 for pace and acceleration - but I really don't want a fast striker getting a clear run at the central DC. I'm thinking of making the central DC a stopper to come out of the defence to harass opponents, while the other DCs cover to try to maintain their position. Given that effectively gives me a back 5, I want Bruno to push on a bit from DM, so I'm thinking Roaming playmaker. However, his lack of mobility is making me think more of a conventional DLP. Given that the wide mids and the DM are now staying back, I'm just going to abandon any pretence of a midfield, and play a direct game. Absent a target man, I'm hoping that the mobility of the front 4 is sufficient to find space to receive the long passes. For the front 4, given we're going direct, I'm thinking of a F9 in the middle, with the other 3 (including the AMC) on attacking roles going beyond him. If the F9 can drag an opposing defender away, there should be a lot of space for the long balls to hit. Here is the result: I am considering switching the GK to a sweeper keeper, depending on how the defence do in an actual match. Team instructions wise, given we're trying to make space for the forwards to run onto, I'm going with a defensive mentality, and a structured shape. I'll try the instructions work ball into box, early crosses (to avoid the WMs getting too far forward), play narrower, more direct, higher tempo and pass into space for at least the first match. I've deliberately avoided player instructions so far, I'll use them to try and fine tune. So, that's the initial plan, time to see what happens when there's an opponent on the pitch as well.
  6. I was just going to ask about this - with a three up front formation, I really need some backup strikers, and was hoping that calling up B (and possibly C) players was okay. I'm assuming they don't count towards the 2 transfers?
  7. Count me in too. Can I suggest maybe a mid-table rather than Europa league level team though? There's a few reasons: firstly, it cuts down the number of fixtures a bit, meaning people are more likely to make it to the end of the season. Secondly, it gives more scope for a particular formation to be successful: if a particular formation overachieves to the point that a Torino is in the Champions League spots, it's more significant than getting Inter there. Finally, last time around a lot of folk had poor starts, and then gave up. If we start with a weaker team, I think more people will stick with it through the teething troubles even with a bad start.
  8. I'd be up for it - I enjoyed it a lot last time around. It changed a lot of ideas I thought I knew about setting up tactics.
  9. A quick question about the wide target man role: if you use a normal target man, your wide players are more likely to cross to them. If you use a wide target man, is the opposite winger more likely to cross to him, or to cross to the striker(s)? If it helps, I'm specifically thinking of a 4-5-1, with a winger one side, wide target man on the other and a DLF (S) in the middle.
  10. I could be completely wrong here, but I've always considered the teamwork as one of the key attributes to determine whether my defence will use a high line/offside trap, or sit deep. My rationale is that high teamwork would seem to be a requirement for an effective offside trap: it simply won't work if players aren't aware of each others positions.
  11. No, team cohesion helps the team to gel. If you go to your staff screen, click on the assistant manager, and look at team talk feedback, it tells you what your team cohesion is like, so you'll know once it's reached a good enough level to switch to other training.
  12. I think the stars can be a wee bit misleading: generally, I think pace/accel are the key attributes to look for when deciding whether to go counter attacking or not. If you don't have pace at the back, but do up front, counter attacking is a perfect fit: no space behind your defence for the opposition to exploit, so the lack of pace in your defence is negated, while at the same time, your forwards have plenty of space to exploit at the other end of the pitch. There are other attributes to consider, of course: if your defence can't win aerial challenges, it's risky playing with a counter strategy since if they're losing headers 40m out it does a lot less damage to you than if they're losing headers in your penalty area. You may be better off with standard mentality than counter-attacking, but manually adding the team instructions for a deeper defensive line and more direct passing. I think counter tends to pull your forward players behind the ball as well, so the direct pass may not be on since there's no one to pass to. That said, your use of a poacher and treq may mitigate this, so if you're not seeing your forwards dropping deep, I'd leave it alone.
  13. I'd suggest having your full backs contributing to attacking play a little more with either a support or an attacking duty - ideally, one of each if the players have the appropriate attributes. I'd also be inclined to reduce the number of playmakers: you currently have 3, the DLP, AP and Trequartista. I'd probably change the AP to an attacking Central Midfielder. My expectation would be that with these changes, your playmakers will have more options to pass to when they have the ball, so you'll hopefully keep the ball better and fashion more opportunities.
  14. Sorry for picking this up so late - just saw it when it was quoted in the post above: He's just 16 - is 7 really "shockingly bad" for his off the ball?
  15. Ignoring the retraining discussion, I thought I'd share my experience using an AP in a wing position in my defensive plan B tactic in a Fiorentina save. The reason I use it is because I switch from a 4-4-2 of sorts, to a 4-5-1, and it's the best fit I've found for moving Guiseppe Rossi from FC to AML. As an outline of the tactic, it's a straightforward back 4, DM, 2 MCs, AML, AMR, FC; very rigid, defensive, nothing fancy. I just use it to close out matches when protecting a lead, and it works. More specific to your question, though, I find that Rossi is quite effective as a wide AP: since the opponents are usually chasing the game when I use this option, he's usually able to find space, and able to cause some chances on the counter attack. One common combination, in particular, is the booming cross-field pass to find my opposite fullback. How effective it would be when trying to chase a game, on the other hand, I'm not sure. Unlike a central playmaker, against most formations the wide AP is basically man-marked by the opposition full back the entire game so it could be effective against an opponent if you're confident that your AP is better than his fullback. For a young player coming through, that's unlikely. I'd suggest creating a tactic with a wide AP and taking control of some of your youth team matches, to see how Wattimury does against his peer group. You may find that retraining him for another position may be less necessary than you think.
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