RiverReveal666

Off the pitch this is the most engrossing and balanced FM / CM I have played. On the pitch so many things feel off with the ME, but mostly the relationship between ME, players attributes and tactics. Its hard to explain but I really don't feel a lot of connection with my players attributes, the tactics I use and what is displayed in the ME. Physical attributes seem OP, its far to easy to set up like Klopp, but I have just as much success with a fast strong CF with low finshing /composure / decsisons as a fast strong CF with great stats in those areas being one example. It kind of feels that the ME is running against a stricter set of hardcoded algorithms that is superceding what players I use and tactics I choose. It has been this way to some degree since the 2018 ME, but this is the first year that I have felt a real disconnection with what the ME is displaying. While the FM17 ME was far from perfect I did feel that the relationship between my players attributes, tactics I used and ME was more immersive and insync with each other, meaning ther players I purchased and their attributes mattered and the tactics I used to get the best out of those attributes mattered and those decisions were reflected in the ME.

Couple of things: I have my assistant take control of training, however its got to the 2021 World CLub Championship which is taking place over the summer and there is no training between the matches? I can manually take over but my assistant is refusing to hold training sessions when delegating training to him. General question, if I set my Assistant to tak control of touchline instructions suring th ematch, is that just shouts or actual tactics? I want him to take control of shouts but not subs or tactics.

My initial response to the new ME is very positive after a few games. Will take a few days to ee how it beds in but it has adressed a lot of the my annoyances with the the previous one. Also runs far better with no lag and just generally appears sharper.

After keeping a regular update on the Official Beta FM20 Feedback thread since the beta release, providing my own feedback and reading countless others feedback, I have a suggestion to try and ease a recurring theme throught the thread. This suggestion sounds easy in my head, but understand the complexities of software development may not be quite so easy. The Current Problem: Players are leaving feedback on issues (mainly the match engine) in this thread in words, where the mods and devs would rather pkms and /or saves uploaded in the specific bug request part of the forum. Most players I would imagine aren't going to these lengths, although a big shout out to those who do. I am not part of these forums during the year, only around release time and even though I have played every FM and CM since the 90s I still wouldnt really know where my PKM is. The clicks and time needed to specify issues is for me, counter balanced by the probability that someone has already raised the similar issue using all the correct files and wordage and time stamps required in the correct forum. Personally I see *Official* feedback thread and write my feedback and see many others do so to. The Current Process: Players spot a bug in the ME. They look on Official Forums, they sign up to Official Forums. They reply in Official feedback thread. They get told this isn't enough. Go to correct bug thread. Learn how to send a PKM or a save file. Create thread with attached PKM / Save with time stamps or issue. Its a protracted process and the part where they get told its not enough is where a lot of angst stems from. Idea: During the beta and even in the main game have an ingame bug report feature. A match has been played, something considered a bug has been spotted, there is a little bug report icon on the post match screen. Dialouge box enabling user to explain the issue and add time stamps, press send and a PKM has been sent to the same dev team that will be looking through the bug report thread. Personally I would make use of that process and find it more intuitive than the current process. Just an idea, but after reading through this thread I do sympathise with people who are leaving feedback and then being told its not enough.

After keeping a regular update on this thread since the beta release, providing my own feedback and reading countless others I have a suggestion to try and ease a recurring theme throught the thread. This suggestion sounds easy in my head, but understand the complexities of software development may not be quite so easy. The Current Problem: Players are leaving feedback on issues (mainly the match engine) in this thread in words, where the mods and devs would rather pkms and /or saves uploaded in the specific bug request part of the forum. Most players I would imagine aren't going to these lengths, although a big shout out to those who do. I am not part of these forums during the year, only around release time and even though I have played every FM and CM since the 90s I still wouldnt really know where my PKM is. The clicks and time needed to specify issues is for me, counter balanced by the probability that someone has already raised the similar issue using all the correct files and wordage and time stamps required in the correct forum. Personally I see *Official* feedback thread and write my feedback and see many others do so to. The Current Process: Players spot a bug in the ME. They look on Official Forums, they sign up to Official Forums. They reply in Official feedback thread. They get told this isn't enough. Go to correct bug thread. Learn how to send a PKM or a save file. Create thread with attached PKM / Save with time stamps or issue. Its a protracted process and the part where they get told its not enough is where a lot of angst stems from. Idea: During the beta and even in the main game have an ingame bug report feature. A match has been played, something considered a bug has been spotted, there is a little bug report icon on the post match screen. Dialouge box enabling user to explain the issue and add time stamps, press send and a PKM has been sent to the same dev team that will be looking through the bug report thread. Personally I would make use of that process and find it more intuitive than the current process. Just an idea, but after reading through this thread I do sympathise with people who are leaving feedback and then being told its not enough.

Have to say after the update I am seeing far more 1-1s being converted, plus more varied attacking play. I have seen there has been no ME changes, but something is making me enjoy the matches far more. Placebo 1.... Hotfix 20.0.3 change notes....0

Seeing similar in my save, in fact slightly cheaper prices than yours: In the summer of 2020 Arsenal just picked up Maddison for £31.5 Millon and as Man Utd I signed Bruno Guimaraes for £20m. I also signed Kane for £94m which seemed exceptionally cheap.

After a weekend with the game, I love everything off the pitch: Club vision is a great feature Development Centre is better than I was expecting Last years new additions, such as training feel far more fleshed out and integrated into the game Everything just seems to work together so much better. I think I would be going back to FM14 to find a FM that just seemed to have all its moving parts working together so well I know some people are unhappy with the Dark Skin (which is fair enough as its not exactly what I would expect from a dark skin), however, if its changed can the current Dark Skin please be made available as I think its great. However, I really, really do not like the ME. There are numerous bug reports in the ME bug report section that cover the main issues and I really, really hope that something can be worked on. Amount of 1 on 1s resulting in no goals the lazer accuracy of long balls, especially over the defence / crossfield to other wing Shots from tight angles when players are unmarked in middle Shot speed seems a little to fast (can live with that one though) Goalkeeper animations are better! This has the potential to be my favorite FM ever! If need by I will just get a instant result skin to bypass the ME, which I would rather not do, but it would still be worth my money and time as I am enjoying the non ME part of the game so much.

One question: If I have a Dof and a techincal director, which one should be responsible of renewing staff contracts?

After an evening with the game I would say this is the most polished beta I have played since SI stared going down the beta route. I don't normally get going with a long term save until after the Feb Patch, but already loving my current save!

First impressions are good, only two things so far: - Not keen on the redesign of the staff responsibilities UI. As someone else mentioned, a lot of clicks (but once done its not a screen widly used, so not a huge issue) - Selecting muliple first team players for u23 match seemed a bit more cumbersome than previous versions

What times of day (UK) has the beta been released in the past?

I have logged in and in the last 15 mins - checked this thread Upvoted OP Pre Ordered on Steam Am I doing this right?!?!

Wow that looks great! Is it possible to download this anywhere? I have never liked exact numbers, I just want the feel of the players abilites and happy to work the rest out via match engine and the players stats.

On a very basic level - no need to go into loads of TI or PI - but what would the best starting point for building a team style like Man Utd in the 98/99 or 07/08, in terms of the new 2019 playing styles? I immeditely thought of wing play, but it seemed a bit more geared to big, tall heading strikers which SAF didnt typlically use. Thanks