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Tactic with an F9 in either a 2 or 3 striker formation, I'm at Atlético right now with world class players in every position, the F9 being my star player
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Been wanting to use an F9 in either a 2 or 3 striker formation, what would work best, how should I play his striker partners? How should the rest of the formation look like?
Also how does an F9 with "move into channels" work? Does he still create space for the rest of the team or less so?
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How does "be more expressive" work for you? Haven't found much succes with it despite me being in season 36/37 with Atlético right now and having some of the smartest and most creative players in every role.
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Would a CF(su) work well instead of a PF(su) here or does it need the PF?
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11 hours ago, herne79 said:
We seem to be following the same path this year - our deep 4411s and we're also using a narrow diamond. Narrow formations can indeed be very successful as you say, some good advice for the OP above.
I'll also add to not ignore the Trequartista role at AMC as an option (think Totti for example) with an AF + DLFs or CFs ahead and hard working supporting midfielders behind.
I've been using a narrow formation for a few games now and it hasn't been working very well, where can I find an example of the tactic?
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6 minutes ago, crusadertsar said:
In striker role. Give him full freedom to create and score. And some kind of hardworking role next to him like PF(a) or PF(s).
Hmm none of my current strikers can work well as a PF, guess I'll try shadow striker first, any suggestions on how to organise my other 3 forwards to make room for him?
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1 minute ago, crusadertsar said:
Trequartista might be the role you are looking for. That or Shadow Striker.
Trequarista in striker or CAM?
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4 minutes ago, crusadertsar said:
Well then look at my comment right above. Set him up as AF, especially since he is very mobile and has great dribbling. He would be wasted as Poacher. While as AF he can focus mostly on scoring. CF(s) besides him will hold up ball more and act as another creative force. And AMC in middle should be another source of support for your AF. This way your star striker is really well fed with chances.
The problem is that he's also the most creative and the smartest player on my team and I need him to drop a bit deeper to make link up play. I tried him as an AF for half a season and we just were scoring and winning less. He's the creative pillar of my team so I feel like he'd be wasted as an AF, in his best season he scored 52 and assisted 44 goals in 41 starting appearances and 11 as a sub. But in that season I moved him around and was experimenting a lot with tactics so the AI just never had an answer. Now I'm looking for a tactic that can also give him a goal and assist per game without him being an advanced striker
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10 minutes ago, crusadertsar said:
He won't score many goals though. Your AF however probably will. And he doesn't need to have high Jumping Reach, not if he is fast and agile. And with decent enough strength and balance.
Hmm I'm looking for a role and tactic that'll make Luis the topscorer with also loads of assists. AP also has shoot less often as instruction while my guy has 18 finishing and 16 long shots
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4 minutes ago, crusadertsar said:
No, definitely not AM(a). You need a role that drops deeper and works hard to link attack to midfield. Such as AP(a) or even AP(s). Then two strikers up top to go wider and work the two channels.
Is the AP(a) the star player in this formation or a different player? Coming back to my original question.
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8 minutes ago, crusadertsar said:
Who told you that narrow formations don't work? Every formation can work if it fits your players. Every formation also has it's weaknesses too. If anything there are no real overpowered formation this time around. FM24 is very balanced in that way. Just need to make the formation fit your players. With narrow formations you need to keep in mind it's weakness on wings but that can be compensated with smart use of roles such as Mezzalas and wingbacks.
I think i will need to write a tactical update about my recent successes with narrow diamond because there seems to be lots false misleading information floating around.
I'm intrigued, what role do you use at the tip of the diamond? I haven't found much succes with AM(at) for some reason but I still heard the role is great in the FM24 match enginge compared to the FM23 one. Would a shadow striker work better?
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My player (Luis) is pretty much a complete forward but very small and very weak. He can do everything, top assister, top scorer, 17 dribbling, 16 long shots, 18 finishing, 19 decisions, 20 off the ball, he has it all, except strength and jumping reach basically. How do I make a 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-4 or 4-2-2-2-narrow tactic entirely around him in either a striker or CAM role to make him the driving force of my team in every game? Attribute wise F9 is his best role but I played him a lot as an F9 and it doesn't net him too many goals so his teammates got all the rewards instead of him despite him being a much better player. As a Complete Forward he gets bullied by pressing and marking because of his 6 strength.
In real life even top teams make a tactic to put a single player entirely in the spotlight, like Barça did with Messi, like Real Madrid did with Ronaldo and now Bellingham in their 442 diamond formation.
At first I wanted to try the 442 diamond and play Luis like Bellingham, on the tip of the diamond, but appearantly narrow formations in this match engine don't work. Any tips?
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So there's a Swiss player called Didier Dias in my save that's consistently the most reputable player in the world for 4 years now (between 21-24yo). He's a CM/CAM for AC Milan with 195CA (and 195PA).
He was in my team for 2 years, 1 on loan and one in my first team while he was still developping and then we won the CL but he wasn't the most important player on my team, there were 3 players more important in that CL winning team.
After that I sold him to Milan for 80mil. He's now at Milan for 4 years, but only in the last year he won his first Serie A title with Milan, and they're gonna do it again this year. But he's a midfielder so he's never the top scorer of his team, he doesn't even get the most assists in his own team, let alone the Serie A.
There's 2 strikers in the Premier League who are better than him, one in Tottenham and one in Chelsea, in my current club (Atlético) I have the current generation's Messi (199CA striker who I use as a F9), my player won the last 2 Ballon D'Or's, Didier Dias was only 3rd in the Ballon D'Or rankings in one year, 3 years ago, yet he stays consistently on top as the player with the highest reputation (both world, home and current reputation I believe). Milan only went to a single CL semi final in the 4 years he played at Milan and usually Milan is out in the R16 or QF thanks to a bad draw.
Meanwhile with Chelsea's top striker, they've won a CL and 5 EPL's in a row. He got in the top 3 Ballon D'or rankings 3 times but never won it. Yet this guy's world reputation is behind 9 other players, 7 of which are worse than him and the 2 others are my Messi and the Tottenham striker who has the same CA.
Does Didier Dias just have a youtube channel or something so he has a large fanbase? Ofcourse he's an incredible player, just going from CA he's a top 5 player in the world, but to stay so consistently on top in terms of World Reputation when you don't win too much is weird to me. He does have 19 long shots though, does he just score some screamers now and then that go viral on the internet??
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@knap Sorry I forgot to mention but I also need a player in a CM role too since I have 2 midfielders that can only play CM or CAM