zsolt86

i never watch football. I spent too much money on FM, so can't afford tv licence.

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Here I'm moaning about something again. Has anyone ever experienced the following? My club was doing really well, until I accepted to manage Croatia's national team as a second job. Now I know that injuries occur more often in a national team squad, but what I'm experiencing is that the game engine applies the same logic on my club squad. In that one season when I accepted the national team job, I had more injuries, than the previous 6 seasons. Every game someone injured. I had a game when 3 of my players got injured. At some point I had 10 players out due injury. My star defender signed a new contract with the highest wage within the team, next day he got injured and he's out for 5 months. My goalkeeper got hip injury, out for 4 months. I get a serious broken arm every month. This is not normal. Before we get into theories what I'm doing wrong, fyi I do watch out for player fatigue, and rest them accordingly. Training intensity is not high, and the injuries occur straight after season start. I always look at medical record of players before signing. I also hired the best medical staff I could, I even required to extend the number of them. As I said, I never experienced this on my entire save. Once I signed a very injury-prone young Bosnian striker, when I was managing AC Milan in the same save, and he never got injured in my squad (I managed to sell him for £90m after a few years). Just wondering if anyone else ever experienced something like this when managing both club and national team at the same time? Thinking to give up that national team job, hoping that will set everything back to 'normal'

I replayed it once. I won with 3-1 with clear dominance.

Thank you for your intention to help, it's much appreciated. Now as you quoted me from a previous post, I'm not a very good a player, but I can still spot players marked as orange with the text Complacent added to them. Not sure if you read my post fully, I mentioned that my players were not complacent, nervous or showing any other worrying mental state. My team talk simply was saying to not get complacent, to which all the players reacted well. I didn't make significant tactical changes, just changes mentality to Balanced to not make my players waste too much energy. Also I did not say that there was any problem with my save; that was the 14 game of the season, until then I had 2 losses, 11 wins and this was my first draw. I was dominant in all my games (as I was here until half time). So yeah. I do get your point, btw I did watch some of that guys's videos (he has an interesting one about the "scripted" aspect of the game), as I also follow Zealand time to time. I do post things as a result of my frustration time to time, but this time I just wanted to see what others think and how can it be related to any real life scenario. And you're right, in real life no one would be football manager with my skills. That's absolutely true, but I'm afraid that neither you or anybody else would succeed with their super FM skills . We are talking about a piece of software, you choose your press conference answers from the same 5 options, you combine your player instructions from the same set of settings by choosing the one which is compatible with your players, and in my save just reached the year 2036 when Zidane is still managing RM . I also mentioned above, that probably the use of the word "unrealistic" is not the right one in this context. When someone makes a complaint about the difficulty of the game, the agony of losing streaks or any other issue, the final answer is always that this is a simulation, and the goal is to place you in a position of a real life football manager by throwing random profitable and less profitable events on you. My final point is, that the game of the screenshot I shared above does not simulate anything, In real life you won't see Vallecano to equalize from 6-0 against Barcelona . If it was the other way around and Vallecano had 6 goals lead with the dominance I had, me ( or you, or anyone else, even the Rashidi guy ) wouldn't be able to put the team back in the right mindset. You made a conclusion based on my previous posts, which is fair. But I think everybody has a right to highlight any concerns, and although many of my previous posts were driven by anger and frustration, in this instance I can calmly confirm: what happened in that game is not normal. The odds for a team, which had 4 shots (with one on target) and possesion less than 40% in the first 45 minutes to come back in the second half and score 5 goals without conceding any is very low. In this scenario is almost 0. The reason why sometimes I don't have that relaxing time while playing, is that I see FM as a game, a program. I recognize certain repeated patterns, and it makes me feel that I do not have any control over these patterns. I should just compromise and let it go. Thanks again.

I don't thinks there is any point to look at shoots on target or any other similar statistics. I dominated the first 40min of the game with over 60% possession, until their first goal they had 4 shots , 1 on target. All my players had ratings over 7, some of them over 8, while all the opponent's players under 6.5, a couple of them under 6. My player were not complacent. Even if I gave the worst possible team talk and they made the right tactical changes, it won't explain such a turn on the game's picture. I understand your point, this is a game, but when something like this happens I feel fully cheated, it's like in the halftime the game engine decides to steal the victory from me (especially the Real Madrid also made a draw on the same day, it feels linked - but I know that's just in my mind ) Probably the word "unrealistic" is not the best way to express my concern, but I would just say this is not right. Something like this shouldn't happen, either in this game nor in real life. I shouldn't be bothered by such oddities I know, but there are a lot of aspects of this game, which make it really hard time to time and they are explained as part of this REAL LIFE simulation. And let's say this Vallecano team might have the capability to achieve what they just did, they have the right mentality, the quality and a brilliant manager. Possible ... but then my next question is .... why they have this poor record?

Show me a real life game, where any te am could get back from 6-0 against Barcelona. There would be clear suspicion for bribery . It's so unrealistic, that it's worth a save scum.

There is no option to fine them for cards, only for poor performance. Also, they get fined by the code of conduct, but they keep doing the same ****. I just got rid of those players.

It's also very exciting to play european cup/league games against premier league teams. Just had a super cup final against Manchester Utd ,where they turned the score from 3-0 . There are definitely predictable segments of the game which favour these teams. Not feeling any point to play european cup finals, when the winner already decided before the game. Every season is the same draw against the same english team.

Good for you.

You overperform ... it's rigged

Rigged, reputation all matters.

I think this is just part of the game, all we can do is to accept it stop playing this ****. It looks like once you overperform and you put yourself in a position unexpected by the game engine, it will make the adjustments in the end of the season. My team just turned completely **** with no reason, I have two tactics set up, I keep resting all my key players 3-4 days every time they have fatigue, all my dynamics attributes are green and high, yet my players decided to be ******** in the last 4-5 games. Losing motivation with this game.

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I'm really glad for your post, an Id want you to know you're not alone. Often when I start playing it, it takes 2 games and to turn into a psycho. I was thinking a lot about it, I would like to play because I enjoy the concept of it, and sometimes I had good saves as well . I think I know what is the difference between us, poor simpletons, and all these fm gurus, who usually never have a good intended kind response. The problem is, that people like you and me, we look at it as a GAME. Let's have a look, why people play video games; it opens up an imaginary world, where you can become anyone you wish. It gives you a platform where you can forget all the issues of the real life and have a peaceful relaxing time, without being bothered by anything or anyone. Now what Sports Interactive did with this game is , that they are trying to create a football manager simulation, as close to reality as possible. And that includes all the injury issues, the million hidden attributes, the precise tactics required and so many other things. This is not a game anymore. Unfortunately, it can't be considered a simulation either (at least in my opinion). It's fair enough, that your press conferences can have an impact on the next game, but in real life you don't have to choose from 6 answer options to answer the questions . We look at it as a game, thus we cannot accept to have mediocre results. You don't sit down to "play", because your dream is to be mid table positioned with Arsenal, just because you don't have 100% perfect tactics. Seeing it as a game we don't want to accept this mediocrity, but the game engine will still push you into it. This sort of reflects the real life, that's true, but to be hones, you can get the same frustration doing real stuffs, which might even give you something back. I'm a horrible player (you can attack me dear experts), often I have to save scum to get out of a losing streak, because I don't have patience and time to spend hours to figure out some hidden reason, why my midfielders turn into zombies. I'm still playing fm21, because I'm not going to spend money on this product anymore. I used to play it in my youth in 2008. I had nice memories with it, so in 2021 I decided to buy it to distract myself from personal problems by playing a couple of hours in the weekends . It actually gave me more frustration :)). At the beginning I really tried to spend time and learn all the details, but I realized it's pointless. Keep it as a "simulation", but not sure, that apart from these super genius managers here and on other forums, who else will purchase the future editions. But you never know, maybe one day we, dumb moaning people, will also be able to fully enjoy it.