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Not sure about anyone else but I don’t want to be playing as or coming up against Chicken Inn, Eleven Men in Flight, Botswana Meat Commission, Cape Coast Ebusua Dwarfs, Miscellaneous, Naughty Boys FC, Motor Action FC, FC Cuntum or Nyasa Big Bullets. All those are real African football team names for those who don’t know.

The reviews on the App Store are poor also just like they are on the Play Store. I’m sure I’m not the only one who realises that I ain’t missing out on anything by not having the new version. The changes are minimum and the game has been released with crashes galore. I am curious as to how long it would have took the team to make the minimal changes they made to this years game, no way would they have worked on this years game for the last 12 months, the new colour scheme and a few small changes probably only took a few weeks lol. I can understand working on the game for 12 months if there were lots of changes. I’ve downloaded Retro Football Manager 24 so I hope this will be a good replacement for FMM. I’m not having a dig but I think the mobile team have had a mare with this years game what with the Netflix deal and releasing an unfinished game and making zero changes again. Just a suggestion for next years mobile game, do something different or add something fun to the game, you have a hundred or more things you can add to the game and have many possibilities. All we got this year was a Vidal Sassoon hairdryer.

I’ll have to stick with FMM 23. I would usually be buying the new game about now but I don’t do Netflix but I’m certain the mobile team won’t lose many players this year with the switch to Netflix, it will probably only be a small minority who won’t be playing this years version. Will be interesting to hear everyone’s opinion on this years version though. When I looked at the new features for this years game there wasn’t anything that would make me want to buy it, nothing big or different or something fun or random like mind games with other managers etc, I was slightly interested in the in match notifications though, I believe there was a similar thing in one of the old Premier Manager games on the PS2, where if your team were struggling then your assistant would recommend to go more attacking or more defensive depending on if your were winning or losing and recommending taking a player off if he was tired etc. Wish the team well with this years version though and hope the sales improve, will be interesting to see what they do with FMM 25 if they don’t improve.

I bet Vidal Sassoon will be happy that the Hair Dryer is featured in this years version.

I would have to agree with others in saying the changes are minimal. I read about the new features and if this years game wasn’t available only through Netflix then I don’t think I would purchase it as there is nothing in the changes made that make me want to buy it or that make it a must buy, I won’t be purchasing it anyway plus I have barely played 23. I have supported the mobile team in the past and won’t criticise them and we all have to appreciate the fact that whatever they decide on doing some will like it and some won’t, it’s like anything else in life. But if sales are down then surely you would want to get sales up again by doing something big? And different? Maybe the reason sales are down is because of the minimal changes each year? If sales go down again with this years game then surely you can’t just make minimal changes for 25? I still don’t believe the mobile game is being pushed anywhere near close to its limits.

Interesting reading the development blog. I wonder why the sales for the mobile game have slowly been declining over the last few years? If that is the case, is it due to there being minimal changes each year? Or maybe people are tired of playing mobile games? Maybe it’s a mixture of both? Although the mobile game is a fun game, the 23 edition I have barely played, maybe the mobile users want more I don’t know. I guess it makes sense what they have decided to do though, sounds like they want as many people to download the mobile game as possible and not just release the game each year knowing sales will continue to decline even more, having the game now available on Netflix you would imagine sales would be better and it opens the game up to a wider audience as stated. I see what Declan Barry is saying but games like Soccer Manager need to advertise and market their game a lot more than Sega have to with Football Manager which has been around for many years compared to Soccer Manager. Will be interesting to see how different this years game is compared to 23.

This is an interesting debate and conversation. Also interesting to hear everyone’s opinions. I have purchased the mobile game every year since the 18 or 19 version. I won’t slag anyone off, Marc or anyone else that works on the mobile game, they work hard to give us an enjoyable game and although the game each year has minimal improvements, each edition has been an escapism for me while I have battled severe and chronic depression and suicidal thoughts and much more besides but this year I won’t be buying the 24 edition, I don’t do subscriptions and especially Netflix, also being someone who is unemployed, every pound is important especially in this day and age. I can’t help feeling that the majority on here who say they won’t play this years edition will still play it, look at FIFA, same game year in year out and everyone still purchases it regardless, people spend insane amounts on that game. I have said it on these forums before that they ain’t pushing the mobile game to the max, similar to how the game was on the Sony PSP, I still play FM on the PSP every now and then and it’s as close to bare bones as you can get. I say thanks to Marc and the team for the hard work they put in to each edition but I guess I’ll have to find an alternative now.

Just browsing the App Store and I see this years FMM 23 is available to pre-order and apparently team talks are in. It says on the game description ......... Be the difference maker when your players need it most with the introduction of team talks. Get them fired up and inspired to win those three points. What are everyone’s thoughts on this? I’m 100% certain Marc or one his colleagues said they weren’t putting team talks in. I myself said team talks were needed and others on here did also, I know others didn’t feel team talks were necessary so it’s interesting to hear what everyone thinks of team talks being added to this years game. Interesting to see what the mobile team have done for FMM 23.

I said previously on this forum that this years game is incredibly hard, just like last year's game, with that being said though I have been playing a lot of this years game over the last few weeks, I started my current and only save with La Nucia many many months ago and I finally just finished my first season in 7th place, missed out on the play-offs by a few points because my players were on the beach at Tenerife on the last game lol, I'm finding it to be okay now the more I play it. That's football though isn't it? A team can play well one game and the next not turn up, that's football. In my league most teams played the same formation as me, but even if every team had a different formation to mine I never changed mine, I just merely change to defensive or attacking, if I play a poor team I attack, if I play a better team then I go defensive or counter, play a team similar to mine then I try to control the game. I don't know how anyone can change their formation for different opponents, I just finished 7th and I had the same formation for every match. That is a thing I like about the game, dominating one team one game with all players getting 8's but then losing the following game where my players get 5's and 6's. Back to changing your formation for different opponents, I guess that would be very time consuming. I would say the most important info in the pre match report is if they play defensive or attacking, I literally only noticed this the last few weeks of playing lol, I do play in the dark so maybe I'm a bat lol, if in the report a team play defensive then attack if you have a better squad than them, if they have better players then counter or go defensive, I ain't attacking a team who have much better players than me, I don't actually pay much attention to their formation, I just look to see how good their players are. Took me time to work out that my team play better with direct passing as previously I wasn't having many shots with short passing. As you can see from my screenshot I only conceded 26 goals in the league, why do I say that? Well I never actually man marked a striker from the opposing team lol, even if he has scored lots of goals, furthermore I played a high defensive line all season, so I'm surprised I only conceded 26 goals. Try not to overthink it would be my advice, go with the flow. It took me a long time to work certain things out, once I did now I'm slowly getting better at the game, so next season relegation then lol. Good luck 👍.

Coming up to the end of the season with La Nucia and literally just noticed that some of my players are disappointed with the amount of football they have been getting although they have almost played every game. I understand certain players being disappointed with their game time if they have only played a couple of games during the season but for a player to be disappointed with his game time although he has played week in week out is obviously a bit silly. Don't get me started on Fofo lol, he certainly lives up to his name, cuddly and soft lol, I am glad he is moving to Entella, I will drive him to the airport myself I think lol.

Maybe he quit football that season and became a florist, either that or he needed a very very long rest seeing as you played him so much. Maybe he quit football because he was poor lol. Although I don't play the game much as I'm still on my first season with La Nucia, maybe this is just a simple bug/glitch/tiny mistake with this particular area of the game. Lots of stats/history etc are stored so something like this should be expected, I think 30 years your career lasts? So that is a lot of stats etc to store correctly. I shouldn't imagine its easy to store so much history etc, that's just my opinion but maybe it is easy lol.

Really underrated film. Was actually watching the top 5 Mike Bassett moments on YouTube last night, do you remember the one before he gets on the team bus and there are fans who are shouting at him so he talks to them and he says you think your big and clever shouting at people, can't you think of something constructive to say because if you can then I'd like to hear it, fans then question his tactics and player choices, then Mike simply nods his head then says arr f..k off lol. The Benson and Hedges one is really funny, Ron Benson and Tony Hedges lol, one of them was 46 lol. That was top 3 that moment lol. I have no idea about the PC game but I might look to see if it has the hairdryer option.

I just hope the mobile team won't end up like Konami, they were beyond lazy with those Pro Evolution Soccer games on the PS3. They used to take two steps forward and then ten steps back, always cutting out the best features especially in the Master League. I remember they used to get huge amounts of criticism lol and rightly so. I don't think the mobile team get any criticism etc, the only criticism I hear of is that the game ain't changed much over the years and that it's the same as previous editions which I'm not sure is true as they have added layers of new features on top of an already fantastic game. Agree with you completely ElliottMS regarding press conferences and pitchside shouting, I guess press conferences would get repetitive real quick. I believe teamtalks would be fun, see it as a game of risk, criticise your players a lot and maybe you will lose the dressing room, or if you come in as a interim/short term manager and the players stop playing just like what happened to wreck it Ralph ringnick at Man Utd lol. You could have a random set of choices regarding teamtalks, a Mike Bassett one is out of the question I guess lol, have you heard what the crowd are fu..ing shouting, Bassetts a bast..d, Bassetts a wan..r, they shouldn't be fu..ing shouting at me, they should be shouting at you, and do you know why? Because its fu..ing half time and we're fu..ing 2-0 down to the Mexicans, what the f..ks wrong with you? Get your fu..ing fingers out, where's your fu..ing bottle gone (hurls piece of equipment at goalkeeper) and f...ing pay attention you c..t, when I'm fu..ing talking to you, if you don't wanna wear the shirt, fu..ing take it off, there's thousands of kids out there who'd die to put that fu..ing shirt on. Get back on the fu..ing field, show those bast..ds what you can fu..ing do, or you can f..k off home on the fu..ing plane, you got that? Then you lose 4-0 lol, would it be asking too much if we can tear into our players like that lol. Great idea ElliottMS regarding expanding playable leagues. The more reputable for sure are available but I still think it would be good to have a lot of the smaller players available from the lower leagues. I feel Soccer Manager beats FM Mobile when it comes to the player database and a better setup of leagues. I don't have the Dutch league or Portugal league selected so it's good you can still sign most players from the other big leagues when you've not selected them. And good to hear that MrManagerMan, so we have three of us wanting teamtalks lol, I think StephenCronin does also lol although he has a good suggestion there.

The mobile team do great work imo. I would not like tactics or training to get complicated, if you want that then you'll find it in the PC game. I always prefer simple training and simple tactics, I just started playing Championship Manager 2007 on my PSP and I find the training to be really hard to understand, tactics also are not so simple. It's reassuring to hear Marc say that it is intended to remain a game which is relatively simple, and that the intent is not to complicate it at any point, that is music to my ears. For me training and tactics are just fine as they are. Not sure if the team are going to introduce 6 playable leagues? The issue for me with the mobile game is that you can only really buy players from the 5 chosen leagues, I know its silly to compare but does anyone remember playing Sensible World of Soccer? Loved playing that and going to buy players from the Faroe Islands for 25k and buying players from San Marino for 35k lol, would love to be able to do that in FM Mobile, its a shame that all players are in grey in every other country which you have not chosen, I'm not sure if it will ever be possible to have a larger database of players outside of the leagues you have chosen. I would love to have teamtalks before the match, at half time and at full time, and maybe press conferences, Championship Manager 2010 express had press conferences which were fun. The game is great as it is but imo it just needs to be a little more fun. Every faith in the mobile team that they will deliver another great game.

I certainly ain't going to argue with what you said there Marc, makes perfect sense. I have found it to be slightly helpful when I first bought the game but I have used it less and less recently, not sure if others have also. I will never be disappointed with any version of the mobile game even if certain features still ain't in as the game is the best available. I have every faith in the mobile team and they always deliver. Any chance of letting us all know the new features for this years game Marc? Lol, or a hint maybe lol, it was worth a go lol. Would love team talks so we can do a Mike Bassett rant at half time if any of us are 5-0 down at half time lol. You have got us all intrigued now regarding the new additions.