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  1. Presssure - yes. But to put pressure you need to do some actions. Like real actions. Sanctions, limiting diplomatic relations, not doing any business deals on a government level etc. A message is not an action. For me, as I said originally, it's just a PR stunt without any action and without putting any pressure on them to change.
  2. That is exactly what I meant. How about helping those people affected instead of calling someone out? Or, even better help them and call out the opressors. It would help those people much more if UK government allowed them to go to the UK and work/live there and give them some benefits for the first few years. So, it would help much more if people were calling UK government out for not helping those people. It is not allowed to be gay there, right? And the people can go to prison for it, right? Surely, noone with empathy would vote for any UK party/person, which is not supporting helping gay people from such countries to relocate to the UK. UK is just an example, it applies to any country. Any country, which doesn't let those people relocate to them freely has no empathy.
  3. For those workers that is both. Like I think everyone from this thread would be considered as a "privileged rich" persons. And many would be insanely tich for them.
  4. I am not sure what point Barnes is trying to make but from my point of view it really looks like a big PR excersise from some Western countries. They want to get good PR without actually doing anything. And then there is an issue, that different and completely unrelated issues are being grouped together. Worker rights and lgbt rights should not be brought together as one is country(ies) specific and is political, and another is global and mostly economics related. It is pathetic how gay people are being treated there. Definitely it is so and developed countries should help them. But those armbands or flags will not help them at all. If you want to help them, make a law that they are free to relocate to your countries and that they will get some help to start their lives there. That is a real action, which will actually help them to be safe. Worker rights is a different topic and it should not be even discussed in relation to the WC as it is such a huge and global issue but completely unrelated. That is how the vast majority of the worlds population is living ffs. For those workers who went there, that is a actually a better opprotunity than they could get elsewhere. And there is no easy or quick solution to it at all. And certainly just words about it from the previliged insanely rich (by standards of those workers) people doesn't help at all. Again, allowing them to go and work freely in UK would massively help them and it will give competitions to "Qatars" and in turn they will have to improve the work conditions themselves. But those are real actions, which will mean that people from developed countries will have to actually do something and give away some of their own benefits. And that's not even a topic.
  5. Simulating an injury is a yellow card offence according to rules and no sane person would think that he didn't simulate it with that pathetic Neymar style rolling around.
  6. I almost never use social media but whenever I used Facebook and Instagram, I see the posts from friends and may be a few other related posts where my friends commented etc. And then I am part of some what's app groups but again, there are just friends there. So, I didn't see anyone linking Germany loss and the good message before the match. So, that is exactly why I asked those questions. You need to have "friends" with such views to see those comments. Or does the social media work any other way?
  7. Who are those people? It always amazes me, why do people even have such friends and speak to them to hear such opinions?
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