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54 minutes ago, Darius1998 said:
Wasn't that what got him a yellow?
No. Ref ignored it. He really should have been off.
And answering the original question: of course, such behaviour should be punished. It's like asking if diving should be punished.
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8 minutes ago, Astafjevs said:
It's not a backpass
What? How is it not? He clearly intentionally passed it back with a leg.
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Just now, Astafjevs said:
Inventive defending from Romero
Surely it's a backpass. But it's Argentina...
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1 minute ago, XuluBak said:
There's no play on the ball there and he's clear in on goal...
on goal... of the team where Messi plays.
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Just now, Harryseaess said:
How is Messi offside there? The ball went backwards?
What is the relevance betweent he ball movement direction and offside rule?
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Hahaha. That's a foul to Argentina. They don't even want to hide it that the ref is going to cheat Argentina to a title here.
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1 minute ago, kopsy101 said:
So, so cool. There was contact, they aren't overturning that
The contact was between 2 Di Maria legs. Such a joke if anyone thinks it's a penalty
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9 minutes ago, Weezer said:
I would say it’s an issue in a team environment if he’s the only one not participating.
It was obviously a big enough issue that they felt the need to let him go so I doubt it’s as simple as he just didn’t want to watch the football with the rest of the team one night.
The stories are that they left him go not because he didn't watch football but because of an argument with the coach, which is very different.
We don't know the story. But it could easily be that there was no real issue but a coach, instead of ignoring it, decided to mock him about it and then it escalated.
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1 hour ago, enigmatic said:
it's probably as good a case as you'll get for refusing a callup to be a squad player
But it's not possible at all. Players will be banned by FIFA.
At least a number of people told so, when there was a discussion about the possibility of players boycotting the tournament.
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2 hours ago, Weezer said:
Not something that can be ignored in a World Cup situation though is it? You can't have an individual deciding he can't be bothered to join the rest of the group when he doesn't feel like it, not exactly great for team spirit.
What's the problem with ignoring it? Surely, it will also harm his (and so the team's) spirit if you make him do something he really doesn't. And surely it shouldn't bother the rest if he didn't want to watch football with them.
Like in families, if my wife wants to watch a movie on TV and I want to play a game on a PC, it doesn't make our "team spirit" worse.
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Just now, GunmaN1905 said:
And this is exactly why rules are horrible.
You can't just wipe someone out because you got a slight touch on the ball. Theo doesn't have control, he touched the ball and lost his balance.
As I said, I personally agree. And for me it was a foul against the goalkeeper yesterday. He was standing still (unlike Morrocan player here even) and Alvarez ran into him. Yet, somehow it is deemed that the player, who stayed still and was hit is considered to be fouling.
That's awful application of the rules and yet another example of how football is behind many other sports.
Still, it could never be a penalty today there. That's not how they apply the rules in football.
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6 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said:
How is that not a foul?
French player has the ball here. So, it is actually a foul against him. Sinilar to how it was a penalty to Argentina yesterday when Alvarez hit Croatian goalkeeper but got a penalty.
That's consistently how the rules are applied. I personally don't like it but it quite consistent.
Should not have been a yellow card here for sure though.
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Is VAR giving him hints of previous errors, so he decided to even it out?
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France actually beats strong opponents though. In 2018 they defeated Belgium and Argentina.
People praise here great achievements under Southgate but how many times did they defeat strong teams in the play-offs in the last 2 WCs and Euros?
Germany arguably. Not sure if they were not considered massive underdogs back then.
And lost to Belgium, Italy and now France. And a loss against Croatia obviously.
Not sure if that is such a great achievement overall on the balance of those results. England was effective against weaker teams during that period. That's true but not more than that.
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Also, when considering who played better and who deserved the win, you cannot ignore the score situation.
If the score was 0-0 for most of the match and then France scored a winner in the end, you could say that were lucky and Englayed deserved the win.
But when France was leading for most of the match, of course they are going to play more defensively.
Yet, both time the score was equal, it was France who scored the goal to lead. It's very harsh to say, they deserved to lose. Draw could sound like a fair result but surely England didn't do enough to say they deserved to win.
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7 minutes ago, ginnybob said:
Especially when both were clear
Well, the second penalty would never by given by VAR in the Premier League. It was a foul and a penalty, but VAR in England never overtunes it.
Then in this challenge French defender wanted to challenge fairly. But the push on Giroud was just a cheating foul with no intention of fair challenge. England is quite lucky that VAR didn't intervene there.
This thread is really weird with all those bias suggestions. As many pointed out already, this ref waved on a number of English fouls, too. There is no difference between that foul on Saka or on Mbappe. France didn't score because of a missed foul. England fully regrouped for a defence, no need to put any blame on the ref for that goal.
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12 minutes ago, Mr Adam said:
It’s clutching at the clutchiest of straws. It probably was a foul but that’s football. Not a chance it was as clear as many make out.
And it's not as if the goal was scored from the counter attack. England was able to regroup defensively, so that was just one of the possession attacks at that time.
VAR could not even review it because of that.
A bit naive to blame that goal on the ref.
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3 minutes ago, VP. said:
We now get a spin rate stat on the ball for shots/goals ffs
20 rotations a second on that first goal
A minute, not a second surely?
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34 minutes ago, RTHerringbone said:
Growing speculation that it's Saka on the right and Foden on the left. I'm kind of OK with that but feel like Rashford has done more than enough to warrant a start. I'd rather Rashford started from the left and Foden starts ahead of Mount.
I am a huge Rashford fan but it does make sense to keep him on the bench. And the reason is that he is a much bigger threat off the bench than others. Whatever the score is. If England is winning and tou put him on, he will be such a danger for the opposition.
And if England won't be winning, him being fresher will give that extra edge, plus he has a good long shot to be used agains a very deep defence.
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I made a big bet on a red card to happen this match. And the ref is absolute coward not to produce at least a few this match.
Zakaria headbutt was completely ignored ffs
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Just now, XuluBak said:
Really dumb from Vargas on a yellow.
How was he not booked for that?
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29 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said:
Well, no, for the reasons stated
I honestly don't get it. You said that government tries to solve this gun problem and the main hurdles are at the state level. So, why shouldn't other countries protest about those states preventing of getting rid of the archaic gun laws?
If major(and minor) countries speak out, that might change the stance of those states.
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4 hours ago, themadsheep2001 said:
The US have always had a gun problem. But they have a federal government that is actively doing its best to go after it. Brett you brought this up, so if you genuinely cared you'd know this, you'd also know their hands are tied at state levels, they can only really put pressure on at a federal level and even then they are going to struggle a bit with the house reps being red. It's a massive false equivalence because they want to something about it whereas Qatar (and previously Russia) did not hence no political pushback. You complain people have a dog at you, but stuff like this is exactly why. They aren't stupid and see straight through the ********.
Surely that means that actions/gestures/messages of the nations attending that WC in the US would be much more effectice there then. In Qatar they cannot change anything, while what you described about the US means that there is a thin line and any extra help can actually help to solve the problem.
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16 minutes ago, panulmo said:
Really I don't happy with the decision of the japans second goal. However, it is a part of the game.
Why are you not happy with a correct decision?
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Penalty Taking etiquette
in 2022 World Cup Forum
Posted · Edited by outlander
So you want players to dive and cheat?
It's really weird how people say it's absolutely fine to do whatever is needed for the win. They immediately lose this sentiment as soon as their tеam gets cheated by an opponent.