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Issue Comments posted by albertocerdeira.4
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Any news on this??
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Dont understand what happened because in last version of FM23 this was almost fixed
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I couldn’t tested it yet,but if this is this way, I don’t expect this to be solved. There was a change in FM22 that broke the development and the AI transfer and it must be so difficult to solve
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Analysing the data, it’s far better than it was, to be fair
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It’s a problem I complain a lot in FM23 that I’ve expected to be solved this year. I didn’t test it so I cannot say any word.
Hope it is solved
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The crossing issue has been the same for years. Did you notice an improvement in development respect FM23?
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It happens the same in Luton but I don’t know if it something intended
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SI, please, we need an update about this issue. Think that there is a huge amount of data and feedback from the community, what was you were asking us for. Sorry for being insistent but there is a lot of people waiting to know if we have to give up with FM23 and wait for FM24. A sentence like "We don't think this is possible to solve for this year" would be enough, despite the disappointness it would be.
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As we are here to show data... I'm coming
So, last week @Zachary Whytetold us that there would be changes, I told that to know if the issue is fixed it was as simple as simulate ten years and seeing how National Teams looks like... and I simulate until 2030 to see the biggest NT look like.
Let's take a look into Spain
2 regens generated into the first NT, let's analyse the players that were in the Spain NT in World Cup 2022 that in 2014 they weren't in the game...:
- Eric García
- Alejandro Balde
- Gavi
- Dani Olmo
- Ansu Fati
- Yeremy Pino
- Ferrán Torres
- Nico Williams
8 new players vs 2 players
So we can tell that FM has a 25% of the reality capacity to create new player able to play in the National Teams... but let's try with another team, Spain is a very young squad and can be better to try with another... for example, Brazil
4 new players... it's becoming better... let's analyse the players that were in the 2022 WC squad that in 2014 were 16 age old or less...
- Vinicius
- Rodrygo
- Martinelli
- Antony
Ok with Brazil... there are improvements, what we can say... let's try with another as Brazil back up were much older than spanish ones. Argentina would be a good pick
Argentina... 2 regens, let's compare with 2022 WC
- Romero
- Nehuén
- Nahuel
- Enzo
- Almada
- Exequiel
- Julián Álvarez
Another case as Spain... FM gives Argentina a 70% less percentage of creating NT players, 7 in reality vs 2 in FM
Let's see France... this is gonna be fun
ONE DAMN PLAYER, let's compare with the players generate France since 2014...
- Koundé
- Saliba
- Konaté
- Disasi
- Tchouameni
- Camavinga
- Guendouzi
- Mbappé
- Kolo Muani
9 against 1!!!! Well done SI!!!! It's so realistic!!!!!!
Let's try with Portugal... hope it will be better:
4 players... lets compare with WC 2022...
- Diogo Costa
- Antonio Silva
- Dalot
- Vitinha
- Nunes
- Leao
- Joao Félix
- Gonçalo Ramos
8 vs 4... amazing, we are improving, FM has the capability of generate the 50% of the newgens Portugal does... let's end with England...
3 players... let's compare with raw reality...
- Ramsdale
- Trent
- Jude
- Gallagher
- Rice
- Mount
- Foden
- Saka
8 vs 3 to end... let's summarize
Spain: 8 vs 2
Brazil: 4 vs 4
Argentina: 7 vs 2
France: 9 vs 1
Portugal: 8 vs 4
England: 8 vs 4
Result: Reality 44 vs 19 for the reality, and I have to admit that the patch improves it significantly.
To summarize, in this 6 teams, where the first and second division were loaded, the game can only replicate the 43,18 % of the newgens that reality can generate. Count this with all the teams and think how a save in 2032 could look like... completely broken.
With the other countries is worse, for example if you go to Serbia and Croatia there is not newgens... Serbia and Croatia, of course I have to accept that in those countries there are no new wonderkids...of course SI
The database I am using includes 13 countries and more than 20 playable leagues, so there's no excuse for this.
It's a known issue since October 2022 and it's so easy to analyse like I just did, so no more excuses please. The youth development is broken as never before 2022. For my part, I won't put any euro in your account until I see data here that it is solved, but I know that it won't have any consequence. Would like to think that maybe if we do enough noise SI will fix it... but it seems impossible.
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3 players aged less than 20 in the biggest 19 teams match squads. Nothing more to report.
I don't know if SI test something or this is intentional. How you can tell you are reviewing and improving this and came out with an update like this. Don't know how you can laugh at us at this way.
Zaire Emery, Garnacho, Malo Gusto, Gavi, Álvaro Rodríguez, Camavinga, Rico Lewis, Bajcetic, Harvey Elliott, Musiala, Bynoe Gittens... Are impossible to generate by SI. It's a f* disgrace. I am speechless. 18 months. 18 MONTHS
@Neil Brock explain me why for the game it's impossible to generate this. I'm waiting. 18 months with the long term viability of the saves completely broken. Tell me why.
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I can confirm after the update the issue continues the same if you make a 8 year save with 8 leagues loaded.
I don't know what the hell they test because for example Brazil, one of the loaded leagues, wasn't capable of making a good newgen in eight years. BRAZIL.
It would be great if SI can lost some time to solve this or telling us the actual state of this issue, because it's completely game breaking.
As a player, if you make good youth signings, by 2032 you are almost unstoppable as you are the only team that was aware of developing players.
This kills the game more than nothing you can do with youth development, because at least when the development was faster the big teams were able to buy the players that were surging, but since last year 10-12 after the start of the new save the big teams continue to use the same players because there is no players to sign
I don't know where the issue is, but please, fix it as there is no excuse possible after 13 months since the release of FM2022
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I wont give up complaining about this and the full backs regens with low crossing even if in 2030 they don't have it solved.
Disgraceful
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As I said in another post, it's waful to see the players in the Nationak squads in the World Cup 2030. If you wanna the save I can share it, but you know what happens. Any plans to fix this problem?
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Is this gonna be solved tomorrow with the release? Can't believe that after a year we still have the same issue and with all the same excuses after 365 days of "testing"
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En 3/11/2022 a las 19:36, Neil Brock dijo:
Incredibly detailed and useful stuff, it's very much appreciated and will be used alongside our internal analysis.
As we stated in another post, this is a very delicate area and any potential changes always require a lot of work and testing to make sure the game balance isn't compromised. But really do appreciate insight and the effort that goes into examples like this.
Sorry for being repetitive Neil, but game balance IS ALREADY COMPROMISED with this issue. And you had one year for solving this since FM22 had the same problem, that it wasn't at FM21, so we can not understand any excuse because this problem has been in the game for a year, being notified in two BETAS.
Please fix this asap
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En 3/11/2022 a las 11:28, Neil Brock dijo:
Is an issue we're aware of an investigating. It's been partly exaggerated by some of the development issues which have since been addressed when the beta was first released.
It's a hugely delicate and significant area of the game, so changes in this area are at high risk for knock-ons for overall game balance. It is something we're constantly reviewing as part of our long term game AI strategies. We're always looking at ways to make the game more reflective of real life.
Thanks for taking the time to raise it here.
Thanks for the answer, but a lot of people is waiting for this to be solved to know if it is worth to play the game.
In FM21 this problem didn't exist, so, in 2022 we dont know what did you do but completely unbalanced the youth development. We expected this issue to be solved this year, so at least what we expect is to know when this will be solved
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Any news about this topic by the SI Team? I guess a lot of people is waiting for this to be solved to start or continue a new save.
In FM 2022 for me there was a big problem with the quality of the wonderkids generated, but at least they progressed.
Hope this year we don't find that in a 12 years game the national squad are almost full of real players with 34 years, as it was in FM22
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goalkeeper injuries still too frequent (pc)
in Player Development, Injuries, Finances and Training
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The point abour this (and I dont hope any review about this) is tath it seems that it is a higher probablity of your second keeper getting injured if the first keeper is injured