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For the first time ever, I'm getting a football manager game from Microsoft store.
I want to preorder FM24 directly from the store, not with gamepass or anything.
I have a few questions about that;
1. Will I be able to get early access?
2. I've seen some people say you have to be online to play the game and it doesn't work offline. Is this true?
3. Is it any different from the full game on steam or Epic in terms of features and such?
Thanks in advance.
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This is just phenomenal work. I've admired Pep since he was at Barcelona but this Manchester City side is just revolutionary.
I've had amazing new ideas from your analysis and I do have a better understanding of how the game works now.
Thank you.
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3 hours ago, Cult of Football Manager said:
Good thread!
I had the same issues as you for multiple editions in a possession based single striker system and I struggled to find an answer for it & never really found a solution I was happy with until this year. On this edition I've been using a false 9 even from the beta as I'm not sure what, but it feels like they've changed the way plays in the match engine in the final third especially ( do you know if this is actually something that changed or not @Experienced Defender ? ) . I suppose it depends on what players you have like someone else mentioned, or I would say also what kind of chances are you trying to create for the striker?
I'm not sure if I would use it though if i wasn't one of the top teams in the league. I'll test it and report that back in your thread here.
Thank you so much. That would be helpful. I'm also following your Manchester City thread. Very curious to see how it works out.
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4 hours ago, Johnny Ace said:
I was actually thinking about this at the weekend:
DLF - Drops deep, moves into channels, holds onto the ball, makes risky passes - potential to lose the ball but you can't have everyone possession focused & they will help link play
AF - out & out goalscorer, moves into channels, would suit a possession system but not look to help the team with possession
Targetman - Focus of play, holds up the ball for others - loss of possession risks
Poacher - won't contribute much. May struggle as a lone forward
Complete Striker - holds on to the ball, takes risks, dribbles on the ball, moves into channels, roams
Pressing Forward - aggressive, can help win the ball back
F9 - Drops deep, dribbles more, take more risks, uses creative freedom
Depends what you want from the striker & what they're capable of. You can't just use any striker in any role if they don't have the suitable attributes. It's important to look at the role's individual mentality too which loops back round to the overall system
A DLF & F9 will both help the team keep possession by dropping deep & look to make themselves available for a pass to create & score. An AF won't help the team keep possession so much but will make themselves available to create & score. A CF(S) will drop off & roam looking for space to keep the ball. So I'd use one of those roles
what else do you have planned out? Roles & TI's?
Thanks, Johnny. I don't use TIs much aside from play out from the back. I kinda like letting the play roles decide the patterns of play.
As for roles, I just like my wingers holding the width so creativity would most likely come from the middle. I'm thinking about an AF with a "come deep" traits. I need goals from him most of all.
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5 hours ago, acolakoglu said:
Been trying this tactic with Arsenal and really enjoying it so far. Lots of good movement. I changed the wide players to inverted wingers with stay wide and get further forward. This is the best way I have found to play Pep style wingers. The idea comes from @Ö-zil to the Arsenal!'s Pep's Barca thread. Really enjoyed this win against Chelsea. Now it's just to buy the right players for the system. This is also one of the best and most detailed posts I've seen on this forum so great work!
Hi. This looks fantastic. I play both wide men in ML/R slots. I find they stay wider that way in the final third.
Your idea looks very interesting. How wide do your wingers stay in their average positions? Do they stretch play or are they too narrow in the opposition's half?
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Hi everyone.
I know possession based tactics come in different roles and through different ways.
In your opinion, which striker role is the best for this system and how do you get your strikers to score goals in it. I've not often had success with possession tactics with lone strikers.
I'm attempting to create a tactical system that relies on quick passes and movements. But we'll camp on the opposition's half most of the time.
I've thought about the F9, DLF and the CF. I've never had any success with those roles either. I know the striker would have to drop deep and link up with both midfielders and wide men.
I guess my main point is I want the striker in my possession heavy system to be the team's top scorer.
Please note I haven't created the tactic yet. I'm just playing around with some ideas and would like to build it around a striker.
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2 hours ago, milestobudapest said:
Tought I'd share this passage of play. Definitely seeing some elements of Pep's approach.
- Building from the back
- Wingers staying wide during the transition, wall passes between the full back, central midfielder and wingers to move up the pitch.
- Overloading one side of the pitch, particularly with the inverted full back coming into central areas (Walker in this case) and forming a double pivot
- This allowed us to move the pitch from the left side to the right
- Positional play - Walker ends up as the 10 at one point, KDB can be found pressing the back line and in the double pivot
Couple of things to work on
- Aguero and KDB can be seen literally stepping on each other, I believe this might be because they're both trying to move into channels.
- Getting central midfielders to make more aggresive verticle runs between the defenders. I tried to use Foden in an aggressive Mezzalla role, particularly since he has 'Gets Into Opposition Area' but during the build up, when Bernando receives the ball, helooks to support rather than surge between the defenders.
Let me know what you guys think
(and perhaps how I can embed that imgur gif lol)
That's amazing. I liked the interplay between Sterling and Mendy. Could you post of blue print of the tactic? I'd like to incorporate sometimes in my own style.
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4 minutes ago, Beerwulf said:
Great read!
After all the analysis, I'm extremely interested in what your recreation will look like.
I'm going to have a guess, based on what you've written, as a bit of fun & as a test to help me understand the ME, and also to get the ideas out of my head.
Roles and duties:
AMR & AML will be IW/S or W/S, stay wider PI. Need to keep the width. AM slot so the start higher, Support role to drop deep and play in the CMs.
MLC and MRC will be MEZ/A or CM/A. Lots of penetrating runs - from both of them. CM slot so they start deeper and run forwards.
DM will be DM/D or DM/S. Keep it simple. Possibly a DLP/D or DLP/S if you want more lateral drift from him. A DLP/D may also occasionally drop in between the DCs.
"The Striker" could be anything from DLF/A (unlikely, but pushes the opposition defense backwards & makes space for midfielders), DLF/S, PF/S (if you want a support role striker that doesn't do anything exciting), F9 (because Pep), to AM/SS or AM/AM/A.
One of the full backs is IWB/D (possibly IWB/S, but he always ends up playing CM/S for me, whereas here we want someone inline with the DM).
For the back 3, I'm really not sure:
You could go DM/HB with two IWB/D to get your 3-2 shape at the back, but that's not really the shape you've described above, where the DM is primarily in the 2, not the 3.
FB/D, WB/D or FB/S will give the "stay wide and help buildup" role well, with the FB/S offering some late overlaps (Kyle Walker), but how to get the DC on the IWB side to go wide? Is a stay wider PI enough? A stopper role doesn't have the "hold position" PI hard coded, will this help him get wider?
Possession Team instructions:
Mentality: Anything from Cautious to Attacking. I don't understand mentality.
Width: Wide or Very wide. This should cause the wingers to stay wide to receive the switch of play. Also opens up the middle of the park.
Tempo: I really don't understand tempo. It could be lower, to help play patient football, or it could be higher, to move the ball around & stop a player sitting on it for minutes at a time. If tempo is how fast the team as a whole moves a ball from back to front, it needs to be low, perhaps very low. If tempo is how fast a player spends on the ball before moving it along, it needs to be medium or perhaps higher. If tempo is both of these things, then who knows.
Passing: Standard. Need to switch play & high width needs longer passing range.
Look for underlaps: For the wide players to pass to the CMs.
Play out of defense: As standard.
Low crosses: Cutbacks, not hanging balls.
WBIB: Patient in attack.
I'm going to stop here, as this exercise has highlighted how much I don't understand about mentality & tempo, and how they interact. Time to go play and experiment.
This was so lovely. I'm getting a bit impatient for the recreation lol. Yours seems spot on.
I just have a quick question about the wide roles. Do IWs really hold the width as described in the analysis? I find them moving narrowly when the team is in the final third.
This has been my major problem with trying to recreate Pep in FM. I just end up playing a WTM(s) and changing to much shorter passing and lower tempo so the wide men don't get too many long balls. But they definitely hold the width more than IWs or IFs or Wingers do.
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I've always been a massive fan of Pep Guardiola. I've tried to adopt some of his philosophies in any tactical style I create.
I've never been able to replicate how his wingers play for Manchester City. You see them holding the width as wide as possible, stretching the opposition. They make runs in behind and create space for the midfielders.
In FM, wingers in the AMR/L rarely hold the width in the final third. They move very narrowly as they get into the opposition's half.
Do you think they'll work on this in the next version of the game? Some of us are actually not fans of letting the fullbacks push up so high.
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This is fantastic. I would absolutely love to see how you're going to get the wingers to stay wide and hold the width when you replicate it.
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Thank you so much. I've been looking everywhere.
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Hi, do you have a db where the league split is removed and clubs only have to play each other twice in the LSPL?
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Excellent work, mate.
Can you make one where the SPL plays just home and away without league splits? Having to play 4 games with the same opposition gets boring.
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Apologies if I posted in the wrong forum. This would be my first time posting anything here.
I'm currently looking for a save file or db that has the Scottish leagues playing each other twice instead of 3 times.
It gets boring when you have to play the same team four times.
Can anyone help?
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Hi, mate. I've been looking for this everywhere. Do you have the save file or db I could download. Would be greatly appreciated.
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(and perhaps how I can embed that imgur gif lol)
J.League to make debut on Football Manager 2024
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The teams seem a bit disjointed in beta. And there are no faces. Anyone knows if those will be out with the full release?