davehanson

Never a penalty

Rashford Left, Foden Central, Saka Right. Rice and Bellingham in midfield.

Yep, but to be fair so were 8 or 9 others. If we went off that game alone, none of them would be playing tonight

Not instead, but Saka was good against Iran. Front 4 of Rashford, Foden, Saka and Kane - but Southgate won't play that way.

Oh, the keepers having a 'mare

Game over. Floodgates always gonna open once the first went in. Is it too early to all laugh at Wales?

How on earth do you figure that? I DON'T CARE. You bought the game from them, it worked, you are playing. I'm glad and happy for you. Why do I honestly care where you got the game from? I was, at the time, simply trying to warn someone that they won't get the Beta. i was obviously wrong on that, but doesn't change the fact that it was never intended by SI for CDKeys to be allowed to offer the Beta. Indeed, you or someone else - can't see who now, said they have ordered from CDKeys for many years and always got the Beta. Various articles on Reddit state otherwise - some people not getting it. From SI themselves:: Hence, CDKeys are not approved. I would rather take the words from the develpoer themselves than from a newspaper. And some important info you seemed to have missed: So, dodgy as in not 100% above board. Look, I have used them before and will continue no doubt to use them again. But, I am aware of the risks. I certainly don't go thinking 'they are allowed to trade in the UK so they must be okay', because, yeah - no dodgy company has ever been allowed to trade in the UK has it? So, lets leave it now eh? You have the game, I have the game, everfyone who got it is happy.

Again, not how it works. I am not hurt, you are more than a little condesending there, and I too have used CDKeys plenty of times. But 'buying in bulk' isn't what they do. They are resellers that do not work with the publisher directly. The 'keys' generally come from regions that are priced the lowest. So these resellers will buy keys from say Argentina as game prices there on Steam are very low. They will tehn resell these at a higher cost in higher value countries. I care not if people have got the Beta or not, certainly not hurt, it is up to individuals where they buy the game from - but, as you have proved by your comments about buying in bulk, people have no idea where or how these keys were obtained and if at any point they are proved to be falsely used or obtained it is only going to be the end user who has the game, and likely their steam account, removed from them.

Jesus IQ's are low around here today. You should not get the Beta with CDKeys. Because they are acting ilegally isn't me lying is it? And I am not going to keep going over it, enjoy the game.

I am not wrong. Please try to comprehend what I said. CDKeys are NOT on the approved seller list for FM23 from SI. Therefore, they should not be able to include the Beta with the purchase. Just because they are doing so doesn't mean they are allowed to. It is good for you, and others I guess, that they are doing it - but again, just because they are doing it doesn't make it 'right' that they are able to do so.

From SI. They are not on the approved list, so you should not get it. I ordered from them a few years back and didn’t get it. If you do then great, but it shouldn’t be possible. They are a dodgy key reselling site, and before you or anyone slates that comment, I use them but am aware the risks involved with using them - they are not 100% legit Wheras I ordered from someone on SI’s approved list and can’t get the Beta - so go figure! Not sure that approved list is worth anything to be fair

Had the same issue with Amazon. Pre-ordered and no key. On the chat with them they said it is up to sega/SI to release the key. I think they are talking rubbish, but they won’t give me a key until 9th November

Yeah, might be different, but there is a post on reddit where someone bought FM22 and didn't get it.

You haven't got it in any of the previous years - I know I bought it from them maybe 5 or 6 years ago and didn't get it. If you can buy it from anywhere and get the Beta then there would be no point in having an approved Beta list.

Okay, sorry to break the news to you. You don't get Beta access through CD Keys - you never have done. The game will show in your steam library, because you have bought the product, but you won't get access to the Beta. Sorry.

I have no issue with that and I agree wholeheartedly. However, some person stating that 1.5k isn't much money and every working person should be able to afford it is what I took exception to. And with regards to FIFA/FIFA manager - fair enough. I have not paid much attention to it to be honest. From my own point of view I couldn't give a stuff about graphics. What I mean by that is IMO the graphical representation of the ME in 3D is so bad that I still play on 2D - I would rather my imagination and DOTS do the work than the animation in 3D. Again, just from my point of view, they could make it look like FIFA and I would still use 2D - until they stop supporting that. And it isn't because I can't - I have a really good PC and a laptop, I just prefer the 2D.

Okay, so in the majority of cases it needs to meet the minimum specs or you risk it not launching or crashing left, right and centre during the game. Perhaps should have put it that way.

Yes - £10 per hour minimum wage - so by the time you have taken tax etc off you are taking home exactly £1500 per month. You are advocating someone spend their entire months wages - when they are already on minimum wage - on a laptop? Or, even better, get up to their eyes in debt to fund it? Are you giving the current government financial advice?

I'm not saying if consoles can or can't keep up - I couldn't care less. You used '7-10 years, nah', then tried to 'invent' the PS4 pro as being a new gen console when it wasn't. And, yes you are correct. A £300 laptop will play FM in it's current form perfectly well. You won't play AAA games on it though, and if people want FM to improve graphics then it is doubtful that a £300 laptop would continue to cut it.

Right, but to load the game your PC has to meet minimum requirements or it won't even load - correct? To load FM your PC has to be capable of running the 3D ME regardless of if you use it or you still use 2D. Doesn't matter how 'choppy' the 3D engine would run, just has to be that your machine can run it. Now add in 'another' 3D ME - a much better one with much nicer graphics etc - your 10 year old laptop still has to be capable of running it before the game will load. See. Either that or you are now asking SI to make and sell 2 different FM's with different ME's.

Doesn't work like that though.

So you think spending 1.5k on a laptop is reasonable then? What about students? What about people on minimum wage - 1.5k is potentially more than a months income to someone. So, no I would not say that is reasonable.

Don't see how it is a crap excuse. Every game out there has 'minimum' requirements. If we are using FIFA as an example, which seems to be the way people want FM to go, a dual core wont run it, so it would rule them out - you are not able to make the graphical settings that wide in any game. And the argument is irrelevant. SI will know exactly what % of their customers are using what hardware. They obviously know that by improving graphics they would potentially loose a lot of players so have decided not to do it.

What do you class as not much money to spend on a really good gaming laptop that can handle AAA games?

PS4 to PS4 Pro is not a 'generation' it is an update on the machine, nothing more. PS3 release date: November 2006 PS4 release date: November 2013 PS5 release date: November 2020 See a pattern? A lot of people who got new hardware to work from home won't have bought a top end gaming PC will they?