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9 minutes ago, kevhamster said:
Shouldn't be an issue. My laptop with a Ryzen 5 2500U, which is weaker than both, had no problem with 8 nations.
Thanks. You have been a huge help!
Justifying 300 or so more for an i7, seem ridiculous when you put it like that ha. The most leagues/nations I will have is probably 5 or less. When doing a English non league to legend. I couldn’t do that as my laptop broke a few mouths ago and could barely run fm and championship to prem was slow(even just the prem for a season) from the start ha. So anything gotta be faster ha.0 -
10 minutes ago, kevhamster said:
Honestly, I couldn't say. Anything like that is guesswork.
Both processors are very capable, both will be decent for FM. But the I7 is stronger.
Thanks
i probably go with a i5 then, sure it can handle 5 to 10 leagues for 20 seasons or something
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32 minutes ago, kevhamster said:
Did you mean the i7-10750h? I can't see an i5-10750h listed.
Comparing the two here: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-10750H-vs-Intel-Core-i5-10300H/m1053158vsm1027882
This shows that the i7 is definitely the better performer out of the two, but the i5 is a capable chip and should offer a decent performance. I would suggest the i7 out of the two though if it's within your budget.
Thanks
So how many more leagues/nations can u have compared to the i5 10300h?0 -
Is the i5 10750h a big difference compared to a i5 10300h, when it comes to FM? Can it run more leagues/nations faster or is the i5 10300h fast enough?
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On 02/10/2020 at 08:53, kevhamster said:
Traditionally, you would say Intel because of their single core performance, but that's not necessarily quite so true these days.
With these two CPU's specifically though, I'd go for the Ryzen. The Intel scores marginally higher in single core performance (which is the biggest factor in FM, but it is a marginal difference), but the Ryzen has more cores and more threads so you will see a stronger overall performance from the Ryzen.
What if it it was only really for fm? Still Ryzen for the extra cores, to help with a bigger database?
or intel?0 -
9 hours ago, kevhamster said:
Traditionally, you would say Intel because of their single core performance, but that's not necessarily quite so true these days.
With these two CPU's specifically though, I'd go for the Ryzen. The Intel scores marginally higher in single core performance (which is the biggest factor in FM, but it is a marginal difference), but the Ryzen has more cores and more threads so you will see a stronger overall performance from the Ryzen.
9 hours ago, Smurf said:thanks😀 msi bravo 15 it is.
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9 hours ago, Smurf said:
Performance, six of one, etc.
Don't think you'll see much gains across similar rated, what you gain in one you might lose in another.
What's your budget and we can take it from there.
I’m looking at a laptop with a i5 10300h, 1650, 256 ssd and 8gb ram(2933mhz)
&laptop with Ryzen 4600h & rx 5500m, 256 ssd and 8gb ram(3200mhz)
so don’t know if Ryzen or intel is more optimised for fm?
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Hi,
I need help
i know that intel are better in single core but don’t know if intel is more optimised and smoother than amd.
i don’t know if it worth getting a laptop with a i5 10300h, 512 ssd and 1650/ti. Or is a i7 9750h or 10750h much of a improvement in fm. Because the single core is similar.
or get a laptop with a Ryzen 4600h & RX 5500m.
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Ryzen 4500u(550)/4700u(650) with integrated graphics or a laptop with a i5 10300h and 1650(700)?
only bothered about fm. Be nice to play forza motorsport.
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Is it worth getting a desktop with a 9100f and 1650 or 3200G with a 1650. Or is getting a laptop with a Ryzen 4500u better? I know it got intregated graphics but they are good enough for fm. Just need to know which cpu is best?
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17 hours ago, Smurf said:
Looks good and if you want it then no issues at all with that.
RAM won't increase your 3D match settings.
How much would you be willing to spend?
Which of them 2 are better? Out of Ryzen and intel one
Around 500
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Can this run fm smoothly, how many yrs can I do before it slows down and how many leagues can it fun?
or is intel one better
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1 hour ago, Smurf said:
OF the 4 being bandied around here - here's how they rank
And this is another source
It's very close in terms of speeds - the 8250U is obviously older which is why it's scoring lower.
But - the 1035G1 has a good single thread rating, which is kinda important for FM.
The Ryzen5 has a much higher base speed.
I'd change my opinion to the Ryzen 5 3500U at this point.
I can't really make my mind up - I've read some reviews on the 1035G1 and there's info about the VT-X which makes it a bit scary to try for FM.
I might need to call in @EdL again to clarify if VT-X is utilised in FM?
*edit just like to add - I don't think it would - but no harm in asking.
So, get the 1035g1 or Ryzen 3500u?
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2 hours ago, Gangor said:
Both are low power processors, so you should be realistic about performance expectations. My laptop is has a U series processor and it's fine as long as I don't load too many leagues.
What cpu do u have?
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1 hour ago, Smurf said:
The 1035g1 is technically a little bit better.
What are the rest of the specs?
They all have 8gb ram and ssd’s
so I could get away with 10210u(running fairly fast)? But I was thinking either the 1035g1 or Ryzen 5 3500u, because of the integrated graphics?
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Will a ACER aspire 5 with a i5 10210u, be good enough for FM20? or will a the Ryzen 3500u or a i5 1035g1 be better???
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7 hours ago, EdL said:
We've said a few times in various ways there is no answer to this question.
Well a strict answer is the same, they can both physically run the same amount of leagues (all of them - whether the speed of that would be acceptable to you is another matter), the 3400 will do it faster (but we don't have any figures on that)https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-3200G-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3400G/3497vs3498
Thanks.👍
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How many leagues can a Ryzen 3200g compared to a Ryzen 3400g???
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6 hours ago, Smurf said:
Unknown - I have never tested any processors or stress loads with top five leagues!
What are the top five leagues for you? How many divisions? Database size?
How fast is fast for you?
A week in the game at 10 minutes a week might be fast for me but slow for you.How many career seasons do you play? If you play 100 seasons like I do - it might struggle after 20 seaons, it might struggle at 10 seasons - the answer is just too ambigious.
So, would it be fine if I had the premier league to the national league north/league? And would it still run more leagues, if I wanted???
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19 hours ago, Smurf said:
3500u is about 7 years old.
The 1035g1 would be a much newer processor and better for FM. It should be ok for 5 or so leagues.
What's the budget?
Can a i3 1005g1 or Ryzen 3200u run it well. For example, the top five leagues???
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19 minutes ago, EdL said:
Actually I just looked more into the limitations of Win 10 S, you cannot run Steam on it as it only allows apps from the Microsoft app store, so 100% do not buy the Lenovo!
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/03/windows-10-s-microsoft-faster-pc-comparison
just out interest. Can fm20 run smoothly with a i310th gen or the Ryzen 3 3200u???0 -
4 minutes ago, EdL said:
Actually I just looked more into the limitations of Win 10 S, you cannot run Steam on it as it only allows apps from the Microsoft app store, so 100% do not buy the Lenovo!
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/03/windows-10-s-microsoft-faster-pc-comparison
Thanks pal. I didn’t even know that was a thing. I will look out for that😀
prefered the screen on that as well😂
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5 hours ago, EdL said:
He means the Ryzen which is fairly new - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i5-1035G1-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3500U/3558vs3421
They are fairly similar but the Intel has a slight advantage, both are low power cpus so they will probably throttle a fair bit under heavy load.
So, basically your saying that the i5 1035G1 can run fm smoothly???
I know desktops have more punch,but when a Ryzen 5 or i5 desktop cost 500 and another amount for the monitor and that. I will leave it😂
either of these will be fine?
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Posted · Edited by Mr Tom
I5 10300h or Ryzen 4500u
Ryzen got a higher score overall so I don’t know. Will the Ryzen throttle because it’s a “u” cpu and is it faster for fm?
purely for fm only
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-laptops/lenovo-series-3-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-256-gb-ssd-10205977-pdt.html
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-5-a515-44-15-6-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-512-gb-ssd-black-10208163-pdt.html