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4 hours ago, SaintEtienne said:
Gegenpress is a tactic that should require weeks, months, perhaps even a few seasons to get consistently right. It should require very careful squad building to get the right players for such a high-risk-high-reward set up. It should require extensive training ground preparation and match experience over a long period of time to get it working consistently well. But in FM, gegenpress is too simply implemented: it seems that any side, no matter the standard or abilities of the players, can get good results from it almost instantly. In other words, FM reflects the rewards of gegenpress, but very few of the risks.
You said it perfectly! I think we could even say whole game is a too much rewards and less risks. (Mistakes) Even in twitter SI is constantly asking how many goals have you scored or how many championships you got? Like I've said before AI Vs AI world is the core of this game and the intelligence of AI is the measure how much skills can be demanded from the manager (player). Meaning gegenpress is too rewarding for anyone because SI could easily make it harder to obtain and human would adapt to it in time, but unfortunately AI would be too stupid and they would continue making same mistakes and collapse via not trying.
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Maybe I'm too old school and hands on manager but I still find odd that there's 4 days left Premier league winter Transfer window in my simulation and it doesn't show any increase in AI teams Transfer statuses. Do they work via some other staff member like Director of football or Recruitment analyst? Or do they just hoard massive amounts of players?
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Worried player. Have you seen AI transfer listing its players? I have simulated 6 months and I don't see any transferlists in any team? I will continue simulating but still somewhat worrying that full U21 and first teams there's 95% not transferlisted.
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7 minutes ago, Kevinho7 said:
Okay so with the new update coming early december… To what extent would this harm a current long save? Should people have to start a longterm save all over again, or would the update be savegame compatible?
Even though SI is saying it's save compatible I would and will not start a save just because of course AI substitutions, AI transfers, AI team management and interactions bugs will weaken AI teams considerably if played a lot forward.
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6 minutes ago, Kevinho7 said:
Okay so with the new update coming early december… To what extent would this harm a current long save? Should people have to start a longterm save all over again, or would the update be savegame compatible?
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Finally they said some kind of release date for the patch.. Now I can concentrate to Baldurs gate 3.
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23 minutes ago, whatsupdoc said:
AI squad building:
DOF/Technical director has 16 for judging staff ability and brings this guy in as a sports scientist.
That's so odd.. what number is he looking at? That's just so simple maths... Dear g*d..!
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1 hour ago, kiwityke1983 said:
Calling people casuals is an attempt to discredit them I've seen it several times in this thread largely from players loudly announcing they aren't even playing they game...it's laughable.
It's not right to discredit people for playing the game but at the same time if you find it laughable to not play the game while there are bugs it's same amount laughable to laugh people who play the game while there's bugs. I got a friend who plays this version knowing all the bugs. It baffles me how he does it but still he's my friend.
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I think these situations are better analysed in .gif files because this years Fm is a lot mole fluid in movement wise meaning one picture is even more miss leading than before. Of course this is also a wrong thread to do it perhaps?
example video of Man city AI vs AI game from data analyst view.
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12 minutes ago, IanM110 said:
As I've said before , I've played this since the start with Domark.
I'm getting old but I've never seen a game going this quickly into reverse ever. Miles's image of the game is his...it's not mine tbh.
Since his take over the game has gone backwards at a rate of knots, where has the fun gone? Every year promised features, which we had years ago and are worse/broken. SI gone back into silent mode, yet again!! I'm glad I refunded for the first time tbh
And before it's deleted this is REAL feedback
Same here, a long time player here too. Unfortunately it looks like FM has grown too big and complicated for the old time frame to get things fixed or ready. I think this because I really want to believe SI professionalism! That doesn't take away the disappointment but gives hope.
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Yeah. This year I'm more worried about AI using substitutions, tactics and transfers. At the moment I just can't play the game thinking AI messes around its team..
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1 hour ago, StephenG said:
Lollujo isn't happy! 10 centre backs but looks like the bug around "squad depth" was not fixed after all.
I think I should not laugh but I'm rolling on a gloor laughing while looking this video.
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I just have to rise some balancing comment. A year or some ago we cried here in forum why SI always leave ME so incomplete and now when ME is in quite good place we cry how everything else is leaking.. so I really do appreciate and I can see the effort from SI. Other thing is shots in FM24. Well we have cried how AI is so passive and now when they are trying to tune it to other direction there a bit shooting contest going on. I think this year SI really have done something different and have taken more fresh route. So hats off because of that! Too bad there's always so little time for a simple SI workers to get things right (perfect;). @Jack Joyce
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5 hours ago, Bakiano said:
Hey statistic wizards is 49 shots combined in one game a lot compared to real life?
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5 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:
He literally just ran through haha
the distances between cd's and Dm's are not looking so bad when looked in motion but what I meant was about 5-10 seconds before this dribble.
Actually it looks surprisingly realistic 1 on 1 when player with the ball have had space to collect speed.
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32 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:
I probably should stop rather than littering here with screenshots. But more so to show the point. Same game as the last screenshot, just less than 20mins. We've now decided to camp. All but our striker (who's not even engaging) is in our own half. The 3 players on the far side for Sassuolo had another moment of just knocking it about amongst each other while we sat in a deeper block. Our wingers are nowhere near their full backs but in a high press, we could be looking to close of those passes to the full back.
It would be nice to see how this situation developed. I'm guessing its the all too familiar players get "stuck" marking attacking team players a second or two too long. Anyway If I would see my team defend like this I would get a heartattack. Just still wondering how this situation developed into this.
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36 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:
And you get many instances like this like I mentioned before. In this screenshot, I'm Arsenal (in yellow). High press and high line. We are all in our own-half.
Its a freekick and GK is taking a long kick?
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48 minutes ago, Evgeni Angelov said:
What happened to you then, did you get lost?
It was FM19.. tried to help, report bugs and got trapped :( it was too bad version..
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If you enjoy the game stay away from this forum
at least don't wander to bug report section!!
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4 minutes ago, harrycarrie said:
I have been highly critical of SI in here, and stand by it. But I want to give kudos that a completely central tactic, such as below, is completely viable in this version. The WCBs and SVs track wide to challenge. In previous entries you'd get destroyed on the wings as nobody would step out wide to close or tackle. Its bringing me actual joy to watch it work so wonderfully well. Kudos on that front guys.
That's quite surprising and great to hear!
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33 minutes ago, krkyseventwo said:
For example Klopp has 16
So that means he should make subs often? I just reported one more example to bugs where Klopp uses 1 substitution for injured player and nothing more ;D
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37 minutes ago, greenz81 said:
Are there any patch notes?
Edit: Found them...
Why don´t SI just give us a date of the next patch instead of saying ´near future target date¨... who even says that? I would love to say that to my boss when im off sick and hes asking when im back...
I would at least like to know is the bigger patch planned to come in December or earlier..
Bigger patch meaning full version patch what we usually got after beta..
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31 minutes ago, semihissi said:
No need to write anything
.pkm and .rec to appropriate bug report would be nice:)
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4 minutes ago, Domoboy23 said:It's worrying really exactly how overpowered playing any form of formation with a high line and a high press is (never mind the preset gegenpress), even if you don't have the players for it. There doesn't seem to be many other ways to play currently.
This is the most demotivating thing in FM of all times. The marging for error in tactics is just not critical enough. You can get away playing completely over attacking or over pressing with mediocre players in wrong moments inside of the match. In my opinion why we're in this situation is mainly because AI Vs AI world is not sophisticated enough to maintain complexity inside matches while producing realistic numbers stats wise. Then there is these things called player attributes and how much individual player can produce with mediocre attributes in certain intensity tactics without mistakes. Yeah.. that's a complex ball. That's why I'm so frustrated that AI still can't even organise his team well or use substitutions!! Oh well one step at a time. Yesterday I watched AI Vs AI game Manchester City Vs Liverpool 0-0. It was very entertaining match with nice blocks and effort so I do think this year's version got a lot potential!
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Actually it looks surprisingly realistic 1 on 1 when player with the ball have had space to collect speed. 
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