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  1. No idea how old you guys are but I even remember cm95 ( I think) had a photo of every single football league clubs stadium and would show up as the background on that matchday. Great little touch. My whole point in this post I am so disappointed in this current versions engine I really am. Not results. Just the way it plays out. Its really shoddy. I feel cosmetically this game hasn't evolved barely in 10 years. I actually enjoyed 19 and now 20 I genuinely feel is for me unplayable. And I've been charged 10pounds more than usual for I think a worse product now.
  2. For starters yes it looks better! That in itself is totally wrong for a game at years prior. Secondly playing just a few games I saw some really lovely variations in goals. Playmakers going past people sliding ball into a striker for him to crisply drill the ball into the net. It looks really nice. This literally never happens on 20. Goals from set pieces, crosses. The way the ball is knocked around. It just feels better, smoother. A striker going through 1v1 feeling its probably gonna be a goal rather than knowing 9/10 it isn't gonna be a goal. I enjoyed playing just a few matches last night on 12 than I did a single one on 20. I still haven't heard one answer yet why they did away with the 2d wuth the stands and shadow and enhanced graphics. And simply left us with a very primitive 2d version
  3. I picked 12 to play randomly to see how much its evolved. I won't say anymore. Enjoy 20 I'm glad you do. It must be really exciting seeing the exact same frigging highlight play out over and over again
  4. Both!!! Jesus my whole point is over ten tears aesthetically and the engine itself. I think 1) it looks worse and 2) this current version is worse! Baring in mind I enjoyed 13,14,15,16,17,18,19 Its this version I really think has gone horribly backwards
  5. It's a forum, people don't have to agree. I just wanted to put what I thought was a valid opinion across seeing as how many people are unhappy with the current version ( look at the 20 feedback post 38 pages deep) And if from the above screen shots you think 20 Looks better than the 12 shot. That is pure blind faith. Coz it clearly isn't
  6. I'm not. Going by the 20 feedback post on the forum there are soooo many people on there fuming with the state of the current engine. I just wanted to open people's eyes abit as I think we all become abit blind to it especially as there are no other alternative management games out there. I guess I've just snapped abit as the price has gone up 10 pounds this year for a product that I think personally has evolved very little of anything in ten years
  7. 8 years apart. Which one looks nicer?? Come on its a no brainer. This isn't just about aesthetics my whole point in this post was to see how far it's come in nearly 10 years. And I wanted to make sure I wasn't just remember things better than they actually were. Literally first time ever I'm so appauled by the state of current engine I personally find it unplayable. My results are decent and realistic. It's the repetitive dull nature in the way the matches play out is my gripe. Full back. Shoot or gut back. One on ones 99% miss so so dull and predictable. Plus yes.. I think it looks pretty crap for 2019 and I have graphics on full. I can't watch 3d never have as the animations are so cringe I prefer to use 2d and my imagination
  8. Yes I stand by that. Obviously it's an engine that has its faults but having played the 2 of them I genuinely think 12 looks a better product. Just go try it! Watch how the ball moves around. How a playmaker can slide a ball through to the striker. Who will go on and clinically and crisply Bury the ball. Watch how the net then ruffles. I'm not just making this up?? Why would I? I just picked 12 randomly. 13,14 and so on are probably even better than that ( I can't remember) but my point was I wanted to do a huge jump to see how much its evolved and in my opinion this 20 version is worse. And btw I loved 19 again it had its faults but I always wanted to go back and play more. This engine is shoddy. Every damn highlight. Full back. Shoot or pull back. Edge of area shots. 1v1 are pathetically in successful. It's do boring and predictable to watch. I literally stopped playing Saturday and have no desire to go back to it
  9. I think you're all missing my point. I'm not saying that 12 is the godfather of all games. I simply wanted to go back nearly 10 years and see how far this game has evolved. If you take any other franchise 8-10 would he light years of difference. Now with just the aesthetics on the match engine alone. There was a 2d and a 2d classic. Why did they do away with this?? Just try it yourselves.. 2d on fm12 ( not 2d classic) looks better than todays. That's just one point I'm making
  10. I'll take a picture and get a screenshot tonight. 100% 12 is more aesthetically pleasing in 2d than the current 20. And that's just scratching the surface
  11. I literally just ran it for like 2 games so what you're all saying could well be true. But. Y point being is graphically it looks far better. Btw I have a very powerful pc and can run fm20 on full graphics. Fm12 match engine definitely looks by far more prettier! Then just watching the highlights play out. So much smoother. So much more variation then this current one that's been put out. Please just go and checkout one game. Put it in 2d ( not 2d classic)
  12. Mate I feel your pain. I'm actually doing really well in my game but watching this match engine is just awful tbh
  13. After being so disappointed in the current match engine I wanted to go back nearly 10 years and have a look at the state of the engine nearly 10 years ago. I wonder sometimes if I have a short memory and just like when you think you'd like to play old retro games. When you actually play them you then realise how bad they are really and how much we've evolved in gaming. However with fm I was pretty shocked that the match engine in fm12 is far better!! It looks so much nicer for starters. You have 2d and 2d classic. Having in just 2d looks lovely!! Why did they do away with the nice looking 2d graphics?? Onto the engine itself. The games play out so much more realistically and smoothly. Please have a go yourselves. Lovely variations on the goals. The finishing from strikers is crisp and clinical. It really is quite shocking how this seems to of gone backwards 10 years on. Obviously this is simply my opinion but I'm 99% confident the majority will agree if you give it a go yourselves. I just wanna say I have no agenda here. I am simply so gutted the latest version of this match engine feels so poor. This is literally the first time ever I've resorted to this
  14. I setup as Blackburn and tried dack in every number 10 role possible. I had my instructions to play through the middle. I really wanted to see him be my main man. But after 15 games of 0 goals and 0 assists and everytime a highlight came up I knew he'd have little to zero involvement I just knew I was wasting my time. Not one single highlight of him creating a chance from a through ball or running at the defence. Just zero. It's like the people who design this now are expecting everyone just to setup like Liverpool and make it all about the fullbacks bombing on. It's really dull and predicable each and every highlight
  15. Me and my mate have literally had to halt playing. Every single year we spend a whole weekend playing fm on its opening weekend. Sure over the years we've always moaned about certain things but never ever actually to a point where we find it unplayable. We were 2 different sides playing different tactics and styles. Yet both our matches everytime were playing out exactly the same. Get it wide. Shoot or pull it back. Every match feels so erratic and seems like it should finish about 5-5. This was literally about 8 of 10 highlights of exactly the same thing.and I do mean exactly the same!! We actually loved it when opposition went through 1 on 1 as we knew the chances of a goal were pathetically minimal. Number 10s in this game feel completely redundant This ME is so dull and predicable feels like it's degenerated about 10 years.just everything. Anyone noticed when the ball hits the post it dosent ping out the ball just dies like it's made of sand? It's so bad to watch We're actually gonna go back and give fm 12 a go and compare the two. We feel pretty duped at paying 40 ( not 30 anymore) but 40! For exactly the same game as last year but now a worse product. First time ever we are actually genuinely gutted at the state of this game ( ME to be more specific)
  16. Those 2 specific examples on the goals you score are the exact mundane goals I'm talking about 😂 My tactics are a 4411 play through the middle. I have no issue with my actual results. With what must be the thousands of different tactical combinations you can use in this game they all count for Jack. Just get ball to full backs and wingers and watch them duff it up or pull it back Rinse and repeat
  17. As like most I've been playing cm/fm since 93 This game is so boring to watch. Every attack is totally predictable. Wide. Pull back or shoot. I wouldn't mind crosses if they were proper crosses onto the box for a strikers head. Playing as Blackburn using dack as a number 10 just feels a waste of time. Haven't seen one bit of link up between him and the forward yet Zzzzz just really boring watching the actual matches. The game is good. But the most important part of it is just so flat and unrealistic.
  18. As like most I've been playing cm/fm since 93 This game is so boring to watch. Every attack is totally predictable. Wide. Pull back or shoot. I wouldn't mind crosses if they were proper crosses onto the box for a strikers head. Playing as Blackburn using dack as a number 10 just feels a waste of time. Haven't seen one bit of link up between him and the forward yet Zzzzz just really boring watching the actual matches. The game is good. But the most important part of it is just so flat and unrealistic.
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