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55 minutes ago, Fmfan00 said:

How does the ncaa work for signing players or is it just auto youth intake players assigned to u

there are two ways to get players (to my knowledge):

1. you sign players UNDER the age of 23 on free transfers either as free agents or from other nearby schools etc

2. on January 1st every year you get a random number of players that "sign" for your school that come from the various academies around the USA. In my experience with my current NCAA save this number ranges from as little as one to as high as five

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14 hours ago, m2887 said:

so basically it can be a bit of a ball ache to keep your team filled with enough players?

Its actually not that bad.  I am finding that the only teams that can actually sign my players on a free are the USL or NASL pro sides, any of the amateur sides won't be able to because its the same contract as they are on at the NCAA level.  Otherwise I am losing around 5 players a year to the superdraft and on January 1st I get around 2/3 new ones from the random academies across the nation

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6 hours ago, bigmattb28 said:

Has anyone had a couple of seasons out of this file yet? Just curious if the draft definitely works as I did a test save and used a start date in Argentina and don't think the draft happened, I am in January 2017 and the transfers tab in MLS screen says the draft is on 13/12/2016 but no actual draft.

the draft in December is the expansion draft and its only a one time occurrence.  The super draft happens in the second week of January every year

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49 minutes ago, m2887 said:

may have already been asked and answered but I am playing as Seattle U in the NCAA and don't seem to be able to register my players. I can't register them no matter what I do which means I can't play my league games. is there anything I can do?

i am 3 yrs into my save with Saint Joes in the A-10 and I can answer this for you.  If you are in the first year and you start in the winter you will NOT be able to register your players for the spring season 2016.  You can play them in friendlies but not the spring group games.  Starting August 1st 2016 you can register players for the actual regular season conference and non-conference games.  However, once the season ends and you sign players in January to replace any that are too old, got drafted etc they will not be registered to play in the spring season since the August registration period lasts the "school year" (2016-2017 for example) but you can use what players are still at your school to play in the spring games.  I know that was a tl:dr but I hope this helps!

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17 minutes ago, Fmfan00 said:

using Boston College for example.. ACC they play 9 games and then they play 17 games in NCAA Divison 1 Group 1. whats the difference between the two.  Like i know ACC is the league but whats the NCAA Division 1 Group 1? Just friendly games? I have also auto simmed from January 2016 until June 17th 2016 on my way until October 31st 2016 before i take over my question is the NCAA Division Group 1 games that Boston has played in the auto sim their results have yet to appear in the NCAA Division 1 Group 1 standings just under schedule why is that?

Ignore the spring games.  Those are just friendlies to get the squad gelling and have no bearing on the fall season and ACC teams.  The fall groupings are different every year (I am already in my second yr) and they are for non conference games.  I assume it helps gaining an at large bid should you not win the ACC title but finish top of your non conference group

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9 hours ago, bigmattb28 said:

Well MLS teams don't get youth intake. I'm not far enough into it to tell you what happens to NCAA teams at the youth intake but will post what happens when I do. The transfers seem to only be signing young players on amateur contracts

I have just finished the 2016 season and got to the 2017 spring season.  

I had 2 random kids (18 yrs old) join my NCAA team on January 1st, 2017 so I am unsure how that has happened (not complaining though), one of them came from the Sounders academy.  There is no notification for any of your players declaring  for the super-draft so I just checked my tactics until it happened and 3 of my players got drafted on January 12th.  Also I can use my own players and not greyed out players for the spring season since the registration from August 2016 carries over to the spring 2017 season so it is just the 2016 spring season that is affected.

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7 hours ago, Fmfan00 said:

What I meant about the youth intake was say a mls academy gets a youth intake usually at 18 they are too old to stay so then they leave the academy's is that when u sign them type thing?

I have just finished the 2016 season and got to the 2017 spring season.  

I had 2 random kids (18 yrs old) join my NCAA team on January 1st, 2017 so I am unsure how that has happened (not complaining though), one of them came from the Sounders academy. 

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2 hours ago, Fmfan00 said:

A) so u get the players from the academy's after they are too old and not before? Say u get a 16 yr old to committ.. How does ncaa work ur transfer window is only certain months and then they join ur club on a certain date?

I have not signed anyone younger than 18 or older than 22, it is not allowed per the transfer policy.  There are no transfer windows so you can sign players and register them as necessary since your players can leave on a free at any time due to amateur status (max 30 players registered).  I also have not gone far enough to see if they get a youth intake or not

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9 hours ago, bigmattb28 said:

Cool so you've had no issues then mate? How far into the game are you what NCAA team you with? Really hope there's no issues with it as think it could be the best database out there.

I am in september with St Joseph's University with no issues

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2 minutes ago, bigmattb28 said:

Hmmm it means missing the first 6 months or so. If you've not had any issues with NCAA after then I guess I could holiday til July/August time. Have you had any problems with using NCAA teams at all? Mine crashed on the first league fixture in February last night and this morning I've not bothered playing this database.

I only had one crash and that is because I accidentally clicked 'competitions' like the doofus I am.  Otherwise I have not had any problems at all.  Make sure you keep an eye on the age of your players, I signed a player who was 22 in May and turned 23 in early August and could not figure out how he became ineligible after successfully registering him. So once they turn 23 they can't play any games.

It is a great database

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1 hour ago, bigmattb28 said:

No, I started the game in January 16 and got to the fist game, I quit that game without saving but on the auto save it shows that registration starts in Augusut:

 

When I do get to the match all the players are still ineligible and I can only use the greyed out players.

this was the same for me at the spring season, I holidayed to august to play the first of the fall and during the holidaying I was asked to register players.  It seems we just cannot register for the spring matches, which is not a big deal because I just scheduled friendlies the day after the spring matches to get some fitness and team gelling together

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1 hour ago, bigmattb28 said:

@Uncle_Sam I've just gone to have the first match in the NCAA and I can't register any players for the match, it says registration opens 1/8/16 and I have to use greyed out players..

are you referring to the spring groups for registration? That should no bearing on the conference you are in nor the NCAA Championship since the fall regular season starts late august

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just got the game and the download, it is truly amazing.  Wonderful work!

 

One question, are the NCAA teams the only ones who do NOT get youth intakes? Just trying to get my bearing around the database before I start a proper save!

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I am a long time lurker on the forums and when Makoto posted his thread I finally decided to sign up for the forum!

That being said, I still only play FM 16 and did not buy FM 17 but this database is making me consider buying it (Rochester Rhinos are my hometown team).  

The question I have is that I am super interested in managing a college team (St.Joseph's University specifically if they are in game as I spent half my college career there), you mentioned above that the NCAA teams get their players from kids who don't make the cut at their senior team, are these players on amateur contracts and can be signed away at any time and leave me with close to no players or would I sign them to fixed 4 year contracts to simulate the four years spent in college and then upon graduation (the end of the 4 yr contract) they declare for the MLS Superdraft?