mbyrd75

I've had some decent success with my tweaked version of @RDF Tacticsremake of De Zerbi. Took over Everton after lampard was sacked during the World Cup break. Only losses so far to Liverpool in the cup and an odd one at home to brighton 1-0. I didn't adjust a ton but changed some things that i think are better on FM23 than they were on FM22 when he made it. For instance FB over WB. Currently training all my CBs to stop play will see how that changes/improves the play style. right now the FBs still get on the ball and move forward much too quickly. Also training my CMs to come deep for the ball.

i think @RDF Tacticsdid a really good job on FM22 recreacting RDZ especially the more direct movement in the final 3rd by having run at defense. I do think the one thing missing is the luring in of the press which really doesn't happen much. though it's a good base tactic to start on because he got most of the roles right. Just need to adapt it a bit for 23 i think and figure out the standing on the ball. Which others have pointed out could conceivably be done by having CB/FB with stops play trait. https://www.rdftactics.com/post/immaculate-4231-de-zerbi-s-intriguing-tactics-fm22-tactics-football-manager-2022

Wonder if it could be done with PPM similar to the fix above. Having both CBs with Dwells on ball trait, lower tempo and more direct passing maybe?

You absolutely should. I have the same problem with save jumping but this one has really grabbed me. I think the way it plays is just really fun to watch especially now that the SV is really dictating play for my team. Camacho wasn't my first choice SV and had planned to move him on but he's basically acting like a hybrid SV/RPM and it's a joy to watch. I think what I enjoy the most is how varied the attack is with this tactic. There's not one specific "if we're going to score itll be this type of goal" situation. They come from all over and in different ways. Just had a 5-0 destruction of River Plate in the Sundamerica knockout stages where all 5 were scored by different players.

Same ones as the second version @crusadertsarposted. Only change to the PI was when i changed the ST to poacher i didn't add anything so he just has the default Poacher instructions.

Big thank you for taking the time to post this and go through it. Loved a recent journeyman i did in south america and coming across this made me decide to go back. Started a save (fittingly i think) with Santos specifically to try this tactic/play style. I made a few adjustments but nothing major and we were humming along fine but on the topic of the assymetric and whether it's necessary or not. I tried my most recent match with Palmeiras to move to the standard 4231 alignment and it resulted in a 6-1 hammering of them where their 1 goal was a last minute consolation. Really liking also that it isn't a high press and feels like my players actually have the energy to use in the attack instead of running the length of the pitch chasing the ball all game. For me the move to the standard alignment really gave the SV much more room to roam forward and get involved. Something that I felt was lacking a bit with the SS and IW so tight together in front of him. Also as my young ST Leonardo isn't quite developed i've moved him to poacher and he has scored 5 in 4 since the change. Overall really enjoying the setup so far and watching the way it all plays together in the match engine is really enjoyable. Here's the minor tweaks and the Palmeiras result. Thanks again @crusadertsar!