For sure, I guess in some ways the countermovements are even more exaggerated as the F9 starts high and drops deep, but the Poacher stays high and pins the CB's, lovely stuff! I'm debating between using a CF-A, DLF-A or Poacher in this 3421, what do you think would work best? I think the ST 100% needs to drop off slightly to bring the AM's into the game, but also occupy the CB's as per your Poacher.