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    Quickfire Questions and Answers Thread (Tactic and Training Questions Only)

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

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    So I have this tactic that I am working on atm.

     

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    My main concern is the space between my BBM, AMR and RB and I feel that sooner or later, that space will be exploited by a skillful player and will cause me sort of problems. What I have worked out so far is to move the AMR down to a MR position and give him an attack duty to try and replicate the IF-S.

     

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    I had to play around with the duties as I didn't want either flank to be too attacking so I ended up with that. Now thing is, if I wanted to keep the formation with the AMR, what could I do about that space?

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    Quickfire Questions and Answers Thread (Tactic and Training Questions Only)

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    Posted · Edited by kristalshards

    1 hour ago, summatsupeer said:

    I would say you have lots of players looking to risky passes, but have a lack of runners, i'd say Retain Possession would suit your Duty selection. Yes you have runners on the wings, but they will join attacks later due to being Structured.  Maybe a slower tempo would help to allow your WB's time to move up and stretch the defence.  Maybe both instructions or just one, would need to see the play.

    I think you might of flooded the central area too much with 5 players, Structured will help a bit but you might need to take it further to make the two ST stay up a bit more and to drop the defensive players a bit.  It might be worth making your CF-S a CF-A so he occupies the defenders, keeping them honest whilst your F9 drops to linkup with your AP, BBM and Reg.

    I'd not use a CWB because of the above reason, where is he going to roam to?  Really you need him staying wide to provide width and stretch your opponents.  I would add PI's to both WB-S to Stay Wide.

    Who is the BPD going to play risky passes to?  Personally with a Reg sat in front of him going "GIVE ME THE BALL" i'd want him to just give it to him.

    Have you setup your GK distribution so he doesn't waste it?

    Thanks, you cleared up a bit my foggy brain. I will try those suggestions you've said and see how it goes.

    I have chosen the CWB because I wanted someone to be more advanced as it looked like most of the times the LB was too deep to support the AP or the CF, so I have decided to go with that as the WB-A might have been too direct for my liking.

    Then I agree with you with the BPD, I haven't used these roles too much in my whole FM game-play so I don't know how exactly they work, I am trying to experiment with things right now and see what I can do. But I guess I'll just have to remove the BPD. I will look into the roles and the Team Shape and how they work and see how I can improve things.

     

    Edit: Nope, not working.

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    Quickfire Questions and Answers Thread (Tactic and Training Questions Only)

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    Can someone tell me why this tactic is not exactly working the way I want? There seems like the shots are taken from a long range and the possession is barely above 55%. The initial idea was to create a heavily possession based tactic with the build-up starting from the back (also including the Regista role, I never tried it before so I wanted to create my tactic around it) and I tried to test it with some of the better teams in FMT, but it just doesn't work efficiently.

     

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    The Art of Possession Football

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    Posted · Edited by kristalshards

    1 hour ago, herne79 said:

    @kristalshards - this is why it's really important you try to understand the principles of play that Cleon is discussing, rather than taking his tactical setup and changing a couple of things :).

    Well I didn't take his tactical setup and changed a few things to be honest even though it looks similar to Cleon's, I just thought about having a player deeper who could be unmarked and could pass the ball if the opposition is sitting deep in case the more advanced players are marked. Also, I had to fit the tactic to the players I have at Sheffield Wednesday (basically no inside forward type of a player, I just had to pick someone unfamiliar in that position and make him play there), but I have experimented with A-D and DM-D as summatsupper said. Generally I would switch the DM-S to DM-D or A-D depending on the opponent, if they are stronger, I would obviously change to a more defensive option, if they are weaker and I suspect them to sit deep (and actually watch the game) then I would use the extra support duty.

    But I believe this setting could be done with moving the CM to a DLP-S and switching the DM-S on A-D to create more cover for the defence? I was also thinking of changing the IF-A on IF-S to make him come deeper to get the ball while I try to make the transition to the 4-1-4-1.

    Generally I had a few things in my mind since posting my tactic: change the IF-A to IF-S as I said, change the DM-S to A-D and the CM-S to DLP-S to make that unmarked player thing I wrote above. Not sure if changing the WB-S to FB-A would benefit the possession (could give more balance on the left side though), as this role takes more risks when it comes to passing the ball and also crosses more than the WB-S (at least that's how the coded PIs show).

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    The Art of Possession Football

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted · Edited by kristalshards

    8 hours ago, summatsupeer said:

    Looks fairly balanced, the DM-S is the first thing i'd watch for.  Not sure I like using PI's so much before you've got into proper matches to analyse.

    You have more penetration than i'd expect for a "possession" style with IF-A, CM-A and W-S.  I'd say its a fairly balanced patient setup.

    You haven't mentioned your GK, remember to set up his PI's if you haven't.

    Yep, I have given him PIs to Slow Pace Down and Roll it Out/Take Short Kicks. What could be the problem with the DM-S?

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    The Art of Possession Football

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted · Edited by kristalshards

    I am working on this tactic right now.

     

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    I intend to go 4-1-4-1 soon as I believe it could help me better with both defending and collecting the ball from deep, but right now I am using this.

    There are a couple of things I am still undecided about. On the AML, the IF on Attack duty is a decent choice, but it means that he won't track back very often so he might stay quite high on the field which I am not entirely sure that could benefit the system. I think I might change Alex Lopez on Support duty. On the AMR, I picked a Winger role which is by default more direct and they put in more crosses and dribble more, but I thought it would be better to use a little bit of diversity in the tactic and keep the width on the right flank. Besides, my CM (A) would have got in the way of the AMR player if I had put him on IF (S).

    I have selected PIs rather than TIs when it comes to adjusting the tactic, so the forward, side midfielders and CM (A) have Roam from Position, Close Down More, Shot Less Often (where possible) and Cross Less Often (where possible). Now, while I am looking to maintain a solid amount of possession (anything over 56% is good), I am still looking to have some British elements in the tactic, hence the Winger role on the right flank and for example didn't pick up the TI "Work Ball into the Box" but instead chose a PI for each player I thought would be wasteful.

    So far we've played only friendlies (still got one left to play) then we start the Championship season and on average, the possession was around 53% or so which is not exactly what I want. 

    What do you think about the tactic? Any massive unbalance or problems with it?

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    Quickfire Questions and Answers Thread (Tactic and Training Questions Only)

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted · Edited by kristalshards

    That is a very nice explanation. Thank you herne.

     

    Can someone explain it to me what exactly a player does in his movement when "Moves into Channels" is selected? I have read Dr. Hook's FAQ thread but I can't picture it how a player moves vertically between the defenders.

    And for Fluid/Very Fluid Team Shape, is it possible to counter the unwanted Creative Freedom with the TI "Be More Disciplined"?

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