[Quick questions]

Thank you, that would be great to sort the loan issue out, it was really handy on the previous fm

[Where's the passing map?]

I have the same issue on the Switch with set pieces where I can't select the corner taker to tell them where to aim for. Is there an answer for this please?

[Quick questions]

Hi all, playing on the Switch, but haven't played since Touch21. How do you try and extend a loan into the next season please, you were able to do this in the January transfer window on previous versions, or do you have to wait until a season finishes and try and re -loan them when they leave.? Also how do you see all the players you have scouted?

[Software closing on Switch]

I was going to put this in 'bugs' but didn't seem to be one for Touch2023. Is anyone else having the issue of the game shutting down during a match on the Switch. Usually some point in the second half? Sometimes takes four attempts to complete a game 

[Ipad help please]

Thank you very much for your feedback and taking time to answer my questions. I'll look for a mid level Ipad. 

[Ipad help please]

Hi, I've only ever owned android devices and know nothing about Ipads. Could anyone let me know which ones the game will work on please, I assume I can't just buy any. I will want to use the 3D match engine. I'd be after a tablet rather than a phone or laptop ? Also, is a additional charge for the game or just £5 per month fee for Apple Arcade, so £60 per year ?

[FM24 - PC/Laptop advice thread *** PLEASE READ OPENING POST BEFORE POSTING ***]

Hi, may I ask is the ASUS C223 suitable please. Is it possible to get a £150-£200 laptop it will work on ? Thank you 

[Advice please]

With the ending of FM touch, I'm interested in the full version. Does the game work on the cheaper laptop's, if not, what's the cheapest laptop it would work on please ? I would only use it for the game.  

[Is this too adventurous ?]

I've abandoned the high line and now playing a standard line with lower LOE but without counter instruction. It seems to be safer defensively. The players are still patient with the ball looking for openings but  when the counter presents itself, they seem to make use of that as well

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1 hour ago, VinceLombardi said:

Definitely going to need to watch a few games and diagnose the issues, because, on paper, your formation/tactic looks pretty balanced. No glaringly obvious issues which is causing the defensive woes.

 

What's strange is I played exactly the same tactic but, with different personal last season and had no problems defensively. A big difference this season though has been the number of injuries making it impossible to put the same team out 

[Is this too adventurous ?]

12 hours ago, VinceLombardi said:

You have identified the problem, but you need to dive a little deeper.

How do they "play right through us"?

Are they getting free runs through the middle? Up the wings?

Are they passing around you? Or running through you?

How are they getting the ball to the scorers? Crosses? Long balls over the top? Through balls?

Is there a specific location where they are always getting through? Or is this a more universal problem?

How many times is it happening in a match?

What kind of chances is it creating? Are these shots from the middle, around the penalty spot? Shots from the edge or around the box? Headers?

OK, I need to watch the game carefully to identify this but,in our last game the issue was that they were passing round us and although my players got close to them, there was no tackle or manoeuvring them off the ball. Noticeable over half the goals we concede are from through balls in the middle. We regularly play a high defensive line which could explain why although I do move them back against pacey attackers. Is there anything that can be done about this?

[Is this too adventurous ?]

Just now, Oli99 said:

Since the upload, I've swapped the DLF for a BWM which seems to have helped things defensively. I've also changed the AMR to a normal winger. In tougher fixtures the DM could become an anchor or half back ?

Sorry the playmaker to BWM

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12 hours ago, Robson 07 said:

I would say it was too passive or non-descript, not optimistic.  Get some tough roles into the team through PI's and use a ball winner.  Earn the right to play.

Personally I'm not keen on both wingers stopping to check the ball on to the inside.  Inside forward I think Marcus Rashford but inverted winger I think Marc Albrighton .

Team instructions are a bit sparse and roles like CM, FB and even DM are all a bit bland without much defined purpose.

28 goals conceded is a worrying sign, make changes or be very wary about sticking with this tactic.

Since the upload, I've swapped the DLF for a BWM which seems to have helped things defensively. I've also changed the AMR to a normal winger. In tougher fixtures the DM could become an anchor or half back ?

[Is this too adventurous ?]

16 hours ago, HUMBL3B33 said:

 

Watch the match on full match or comprehensive highlights and notice if you’re loosing the ball too often or they are able to play through your defence.
 

If you’re loosing ball too often then play with your passing directness, tempo, attacking width and mentality. Adjust them according to your opponent. 
 

If you feel like you can not win the ball back at all and the opposition team just completes every transition they come to attack you and end up having a shot on goal. Maybe you can adjust the off the ball instructions a little. 
 

But before doing anything make sure you know what are your strengths and weaknesses in both attacking and defending.

For example your current setup looks like your striker would often look to drop a little. And all the support duties tells me that you are trying to play short passing around that striker to play tiki taka sort of a system. So in that case, your passing, off the ball, anticipation, decisions, and finally vision become immensely important. You have to have a brilliant team in these respective departments to move past the opposition defence. 
 

On the other hand you can have a long ball or direct counter attacking setup which either requires you to play log balls and have fast runners running after that ball. Or have a strong target man to hold it and play others in. These are obviously the most used way to play such methods but not necessarily the only way. 
 

Now similarly you can go into the team comparison screen and see exactly what are you good at and play according to that. Do this for both attack and defence. 

I watch every game on comprehensive and have noticed we do seem to lose the ball cheaply sometimes but, the biggest issue is that the opposition do seem to be able to play right through us. Passing directness and tempo are both balanced along with tempo plus the pressing is slightly higher and o regularly ask them to get stuck in. Perhaps as you say there's not enough players with the right defensive attributes? I will check the team comparisons to see which style would suit the team more. Perhaps the passing game I'm attempting isn't suitable 

[Is this too adventurous ?]

20 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said:

That's unlucky I was just joking but your set-up looks good.

I think you could afford to have both fullbacks on WB(S) or FB(A) they should be safe going forward with your DM, with both wide attackers cutting, you can get both forward to provide width. Maybe one of your wide attackers to IF(S or A). I think sometimes in this game you get punished for not being attacking enough if you know what I mean, like offense is the best defence so it's always about finding the balance 

That's ok  There's at least two players getting injured every week which is annoying. When everyone's fit that is pretty much the set up I use with two WBs and  the AML as either INWa or INFa. 

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3 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said:

Probably because you're playing Andy Lonergan in nets 

The two others got injured within a week of each other 

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2 hours ago, HUMBL3B33 said:

I often see people having great tactics questioning their choices because they either don’t score a lot of goals or they concede many.

 

Try and understand this. Your choice of roles and duties affect how you move on the pitch. It my impact the outcome indirectly but i would say there are many more culprits at large. 
 

I hope you have already gone through basic thing’s like morale and fitness that might affect your games much more directly than your role. 
 

Once you’re done with that you move ahead with the tactic at hand. Everything seems to be good. Nothing’s overly aggressive, as pointed out by others. Your setup is quite conservative with no duties aggressively trying to win the ball and it is because of that you are allowing your opposition too much time on the ball. As a result they are able to move the ball in your third without any problem.

On top of that you are not compact and hence you have spaces between your lines. Which at large allows your opponent even more space to work with and ping dangerous passes. 
 

To avoid this you would have to play a combined 11 with great ability to intercept the ball. Which is a very hard task at the very least. Basically leaving you no other way to overshoot and overscore your opponents to win the match. 
 

A way to remedy this is to adjust your lines in such a way that it creates overlaps between the defending zones of each individual i.e in my opinion for this tactic do not go past the standard defensive line as it will allow too much space and time to your opponent wingers either to cut in or simply ping an early cross. On top of it, you shouldn’t allow the team to go past standard LOE. Ideally hitting them on counter with either of the lower or lowest LOE.
 

Or maybe you can push high and camp in the opposition third with both LOE and DL on the higher side. Keep in mind you are prone to counter attacks at this moment. However, i clear DM should provide your team some time to get back in time. 
 

As explained earlier. Conceding too many goals is the problem look for the cause of it. 

Team morale seems to be ok and fitness but, we're getting a huge number of injuries so it's never the same team going out. I use standard def line with lower LOE against better teams plus a 4141, this was effective last season but, we're getting well beaten this time by all of them. The players I play at AML and AMR offer nothing when further back in a 4141.

[Is this too adventurous ?]

15 hours ago, sporadicsmiles said:

Well, the tactic is quite conservative overall anyway, especially with the defence set up as it is. As noted, the LOE could just be giving too much space in front of your defence for opposition teams to take advantage of. Try raising the LOE first, to see if it helps with defending. Or better work out how you are conceding most of your goals and let us know, so we can see if this guy feeling is correct or not. 

You may also want to think about what you do when you lose the ball. If you are seeing you are getting hit quickly by teams, it may be worthwhile asking players to get back to position. If you are seeing that you are too passive in countering buildups, set your advanced players to press more. 

Then attacking wise I guess it works reasonably well. I'd be tempted to have an attacking fullback on the side with the DLP when you feel you are able to get away with it (home against weaker sides). This will help create more space centrally at best, and at worst will force an opposition winger to track back.

What we do when we lose the ball seems to be the biggest issue, which is strange because team pressing is set quite high. If Digne is fit he will always play as a WBs, and that adds a great deal attacking wise 

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15 hours ago, WhyMe said:

If you normally play with a high LOE and standard DL then I am guessing your defence is getting stretched because roles and duties wise you are not overly attacking , in fact this is a relatively conservative setup.  I would give it a try on high DL and High LOE or standard/standard.  You could also look to compress the space and have LOE one notch lower than DL, but that might be too big a change for now.  The other possibility is that your player in the DLP role doesn't have decent defensive stats in which case it could also be a personnel problem. 

I've played a lot of the matches with high def line and standard LOE but, had the same issues. We seem to just get overrun even against similar team's. There's some games we have the higher Xg but the opposition always look like scoring. Allan plays Def Mid who has excellent defensive stats but, perhaps the DLP ahead doesn't offer enough defensively. If I use a BWM there instead though, won't that effect the possession game I'm attempting?

[Is this too adventurous ?]

I normally play a high LOE, this was a tactic against a far stronger team that was a 4141 before with the AMR as a winger not INW 

[Is this too adventurous ?]

Hi, is this tactic too optimistic, I'm getting the movement I want with plenty of support and movement in the final third but, conceding far too many goals, I'm considering a BWM instead of an DLP but, I want to keep a playmaker. Would a APM work instead of the CMa ? I would lose his late runs into the box though which is  where a lot of my goals and best chances come from. Is there other changes that obviously need making ?

[Time to give up]

2 hours ago, dinmor said:

Hi.

I'm curious about something. A lot of people seems to be coming with a lot of inputs, but I'm still unsure of what you're really trying to achieve? Do you want to play a certain style, or do you just want to achieve the best results with your current team? 

If it's the first, then I'd love for you to really try and consider what that style you are trying to achieve:
1. Defence
- Where do you want to allow your opponent space? (formation)
- How would you like to do it? (instructions)
- Who will be the outlet player(s), if your team wins the ball? (roles)

2. Transitions. 
- Again. What type of side do you want to be? Do you want to attack fast and counter, do you want to build up slow or something in the middle? (Instructions and player roles)

3. Attack
- How are you attacking? (Direct, short, wide, narrow, tempo)
- Who will be the main goalscorer(s)? (Roles and duties)
- Who will supply the main goalscorer(s)? (Roles and duties)
- Which players are staying back and providing cover? (Roles and duties)

In general: How much risk do you want to take? Will you be a defensive side hoping for narrow wins? Or are you a suicidal Bielsa-type, who just want to watch the nets burn?

 

If you want to achieve the maximum with your current squad, then you should upload some screenshots of your squads comparison to the rest of the league. What are their strengths and weaknesses? Once you know that, then you can start considering how to get the most out of your current team and hopefully overachieve. 

 

 

 

There's no particular playing style I'm set on but, I do think with this team, counter is the way to go to get the best out of them, I may well be wrong, I'm still learning. The plan I have is to attack down the wings with the DLF and Cm a keeping up with them and to be getting in the box.   Saying that I will still consider all the questions you're asking. The plan is to be a defensive team and achieve narrow wins but, whether this can be achieved with a 4123,  I'm not sure. When I can, I'll upload some screenshots of the squad. 

[Time to give up]

13 hours ago, YAMS said:

Ok, so maybe you have a weakness down the lhs or perhaps you played an opposition with a particularly strong or targeted right flank game. Ideally, if you had the opportunity to see it happening, you would have made positional or role adjustments to try to stop it occurring. 

It's a learning game, perhaps you lost this match but can fix it or see it for next time. As someone mentioned earlier on, don't go changing too much at once. Often a subtle change is enough to effect an outcome. 

Personally if I was playing a 4-1-2-2-1 shape & I saw the oppo right back or RHS in general was very aggressive I would pull back my left winger to a left mid starting position & possible either slide my def mid to the LHS a touch or make the left mid a Carrilero or CMD/S with a stay wide instruction. This would overload the LHS in defence more. You could then also attack down you RHS to give the oppo more of a problem.... Just examples here of how I might approach this.  

Great advice, in this scenario, a carrilero helped considerably, thank you

[Time to give up]

OK thank you. The goals have generally started down our left side,  which is understandable, that's where I've concentrated on improving 

[Time to give up]

OK, so is the DM going to need to be a regista for example, in which case who, if any do I give a defend duty to. I've switched the BWM to a car s. I'm playing the right central midfielder as a CM a, does this need to be the playmaker instead with a defensive mid behind him ?

I have been playing 4141 with little success but, I haven't played attacking wingers so, I'll switch to that and raise the LOE. Do I use this against the very best teams though ?