Jump to content

drigaco

Members+
  • Content Count

    36
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by drigaco

  1. Em 12/05/2020 em 10:47, Djuicer disse:

    My current passing network. Feel free to guess the formation ;)

     

    UqZmadc.jpg

    What concerns me the most about that image is the distance between the CB and the rest of the team. That has been a problem for a long time, the CB stay too low and not only it affects your offensive play, but it also affects counter pressing. Even if you watch a Liverpool VS City, you see that when the team is attacking their CB push high up which forces the opponent to stay back. Even if you consider the offside rule, no attacker would risk letting 2 CB alone for the sake of taking advantage of the offside rule (the halfway line rule I mean). 

  2. 22 minutos atrás, Ö-zil to the Arsenal! disse:

    Fairytale complete. Quite frankly, I am shocked.

    After the devastating withdrawal of Florentino Luis, Jota and Umaro Embalo, we replaced with like-for-like. Trying to maintain as much consistency as possible, even though their absence clearly disrupted the team massively.


    CKxCQOg.png

    What  are the rest of the TI's that don't show in the pic?

  3. 1 hora atrás, Rashidi disse:

    Liverpool play different variations of a 4123 and a 4231 when they use different players. T How the 3 strikers are set up is largely a factor of how he has set up his midfield and who is playing there and it has been different for different games.

    Sometimes Liverpool play with 2 holding mids and sometimes they play with one. 

    But they always defend in a very compact and narrow 433. That very rarely changes. So any replication of Liverpool has to start with a 4123 or flat mid 433.

  4. 45 minutos atrás, s0ni42 disse:

    Good point. My experience is that half back never quite gets that far back. But, as mentioned, have not attempted that partnership

    Agreed. One thing I like is having 3atb when in offensive organisation with the half back staying with the 2 centrebacks. Instead he only drops deep in the build up play than behaves like a normal DM. Jorge Jesus' Flamengo this season has been playing like that every game. I think the HB role applies to something like this year Liverpool where Fabinho drops in the build up play but goes forward when in attack.

    Edit: And the other thing is that HB movement is only available in DM and plus you only really see him dropping between the CB if he is on the middle. If we want to defend in a 442 we can't have that kind of movement I think.

  5. 4 horas atrás, yonko disse:

    First, we need to define what traditional winger is. But the way I understand them to play like, I don't think that is what Pep is using them like. At least not in the final third.

    Second, you don't know the scenario I was using because I didn't go into details about it. I just mentioned a general concept of having 3 men running into the box while the ball is in the final third.

    So here is an example in details:

    Sterling has the ball on the right side of the penalty box, outside of the box in the wide channel. In this situation, you don't want Sane to be wide on the other side. You want him in the box with David Silva (MCL) and Aguero (ST) jostling for position in the box and being a goal threat. However, in support of Sterling on the right side you have KDB (MCR) and Walker (DR) plus additional support infield from Fernandinho (DM). In this scenario Sane's role is not to provide width on the weak side. It is to be a goal threat along with Silva and Aguero.

    Now if you rewind back and have Sterling with the ball 20 yards or so back, he would be out wide near the sideline in the middle third of the field. In this scenario, you want Sane stretching the play outside on the opposite side. The spacing is different depending or where the ball is and who has the ball.

    For the first two thirds of the field, Sane and Sterling have to provide width and stretch the play, so Silva, KDB, Fernandinho and Aguero (to some extent, but not as much as say Messi had) have space to operate. In the final third you have freedom of movement, generally, but at City Pep is focusing more on having 3 players being a goal threat in the final third. 

    Now, some of this can be created in FM and some of this may not be, like many other things, btw. 

    Raised the same question in other thread and I agree with you. The problem with that specific movement is that you probably don't see any other team in the world playing like that sou you would have to create something just because of City. If you look at just the type of player Guardiola has playing as RCM/LCM they're very unique. I would say only Hoffenheim ( probably am forgetting about other team) play with the same type of player in Demirbay,Bittencourt,Kramaric,etc.

  6. 1 minuto atrás, fmFutbolManager disse:

    You sound very sure of the way my Roaming Playmaker plays. He’s my second top scorer, he plays around the edge of the box (doesn’t stay back), he plays with my winger close to him but also will drive into the box when needed. 

    So you think it's more a system problem than a lack of role with that type of movement?

  7. 18 minutos atrás, fmFutbolManager disse:

    I like a Roaming Playmaker is this position 

    Maybe I should've I said that I want this movement close to the box obviously. The RPM supports the winger as much as another CM in the build up but close to the box he stays back. Neither does he runs inside the box/makes a run behind the defenders nor does he gets close to the winger for the one-two.

  8. What's the best role for the CM to get him close to the winger in a 4-3-3. I thought the mezzala would be the answer but even the mezalla goes inside the box everytime my winger has the ball. Basically if the left winger has the ball I want the left CM close to him to run behind or for one-twos and the right CM goes inside the box for the cross. And vice-versa. Any suggestion on how to get this kind of movement?

  9. 4 minutes ago, Ö-zil to the Arsenal! said:


    I set a 4-1-4-1 formation for the U19s which means João Tralhão - U19 Manager - selects the mentality, roles, instructions etc but allows me to control certain things such as using MR/L rather than AMR/L so players build up familiarity their and Dantas selected as a DM etc.

    When I give young players an option in the cups that's First Team so obviously I have full control over the tactics.

    I don't move players between squads for each game, I use Squad Filters to pick players from the U19s and B Team. Sometimes there will be another match happening at the same time in either of the other teams so I plan ahead and make sure any players I wish to select for the cup match do not play either match.

    Selecting players for the U19s and B Team seems to work similarly to "use current team selection when possible" when on holiday.

    So you created that possession tactic just to play in cups with youngsters or you will get into that in the  future?

  10. 3 minutes ago, Gegenklaus said:

    It does depend on your system though and if space is open for it. I just found that IF's in the AM strata doesnt stay wide enough during the build up. In this year FM I really like using Wide Midfielders and IW's. :)

    How does it depend on the system though? I don't understand how the player movement when he dribbles depends on the system? Can you explain?

  11. 7 minutes ago, Sharkn20 said:

    That's and IF Support role isn't it?

    I thought so but even an IF with stay wider, and cut inside from both wings PPM, doesn't make that diagonal run ( I used Bailey who even is left footed). The player always go out to the byline and tries to cross but closer to the sideline than to the box.

  12. 8 minutes ago, Gegenklaus said:

    I found great success using the IW role in the midfield strata with Stay Wider and Cross Less Often pi's. The benefit for this is that they wider longer during build up. They often do either a diogonal dribling run on the edge of the penalty box or go to the byline just outside the penalty box. Key here is that the players prefered foot should be closest to the touchline. :)

    I was looking for the right way to put it and that's exactly it : Diagonal run. Get the ball wide and go straight to goal and look for a cross when you're close. Just like Sané does. He never goes to the byline unless he's in the box.

  13. 1 hour ago, onionbag said:

    That's odd, an IF does exactly what you describe.

    And the player has Cuts Inside From Both Wings right?

    I ran twin IFs in the first couple of season in a Wolves save. They did just what you are saying. I also had them on cross to the far post (as I do for all wide players) and they cut inside, and crossed from the edge of the box. Eventually I shelved them due to defensive vulnerability, though they are used when I'm desperate for a goal.

    Some other counter-instruction in your tactics? Have you tried cross from deep? How narrow is your formation?

    Are you using a single striker? I've found that IF's in a two-striker formation will stay wider.

    Yes I'm playing with just one striker, sometimes in the AM position because I find the striker doesn't help much when my team is defending. I think I will insist on the IF for now. Will try to update later.

  14. How do I get my wingers to behave like Sané does for City?

    I want my winger to receive the ball wide, which is easy and can be done in different ways, but then after he gets the ball he tends to dribble wide and cross from the byline.I'm playing with Leverkusen and I tried Bailey in different roles like IF, Winger, Inverted Winger and he always does the same: Gets the ball wide, runs to the byline ( playing on the left) and tries to cross. What I want to achieve is after he gets the ball wide he only crosses when he reaches the box, or when he's closer to the box, like Sané does IMO.

    Do you have any idea or previous experience that worked?

  15. How can you swap positions and add specific instructions to each player for position, for example I have a winger on the left and an inside forward on the right and I want them to swap but when they swap I wan't a winger on the right and a inside forward on the left, or whatever. So they keep swapping but stict to their specific instructions for that position.

  16. On 02/08/2017 at 18:01, Ö-zil to the Arsenal! said:

    The legacy of Bielsa lives on in that we have the second hardest working squad in the league.

    I know that this is not a thread about Bielsa but today I saw his first match with Lille in Ligue 1 and his teams play exactly the same. Started with a defensive midfielder in case Nantes didn't play with 2 strikers but as soon as the game starts the defensive midfielder drops inbetween the centre backs, just like Javi Martinez did at Bilbao. One thing I would like is a player filter for Bielsa, he left Lazio because they didn't buy the players he wanted and at Lille he spend some money but he brought exactly the players he wanted,seems like he does a very good job at watching games and scouting. I don't know how he pulled it of at Bilbao but he did a very good job.

  17. 37 minutes ago, Ö-zil to the Arsenal! said:

    The Advanced Playmaker is the MCL. Edited to make that a bit clearer.

    Yeah I see that, but on the first screenshot of the team bellow Formation, Player Roles and Duties you have the left winger as an advanced playmaker but on the second screenshot you have an IF. They are both IF according to you, the 1st one might confuse some people.

  18. 1 hour ago, Rashidi said:

    Ok I've finished my replication, I am pretty happy with how they are playing top of the table and soaring..they only drew one match, that was back when I was still unsure about the roles. Other than that Costa scores in every single game. They get the congestion in midfield I was after, and they have the slight vulnerability down the right flank too.

    If you want to find out more..I did detailed posts on my blog and did a series of youtube videos for it. I explain the tactic, my logic behind it and what I was going for. As always this is my interpretation and is not meant to be definitive. The goal was to enjoy the football they played,

     

    Just watched your video, got a few questions : Don't you think Kanté gets forward a lot? It could be a good thing but he doesn't get into the opponent box that much in a game. He scored that goal against ManU but they weren't defending by that time. Other thing to point out is that we need another role on the CB. We can't replicate what Alaba ( Pep's Bayern), Kolarov ( recently in city) or Azpi ( chelsea) do. If we have a IWB because of 1/2 examples we need to have another role for the CB for the same reason. An Anchor Man or Half Back don't do what they do IRL. They don't come down to the backline and they don't cross or go wide or even shoot(Kolarov). Other than that I think you got it all, the double AP is our only choice to replicate that system and if Costa is scoring goals you got the attacking part right.

  19. On 17/12/2016 at 13:27, Rashidi said:

    With today's game against Palace, I rest my case that Azpilicueta should be treated as a halfback. I will accept the offensive movements even if I have the defensive vulnerabilities. Its a pity, but if we can tweak the HBs defensive movement this will be fun

     

    I tried the half-back but even playing him more to the right he goes central a lot and azpi stays on that half space between right and center, he doesn't roam from there. Other things that neither halfbacks or central defenders do is cross and azpi puts some crosses at a time, even assists sometimes.

  20. 10 minutes ago, Rashidi said:

    Oh...if I can on defensive and still play attacking football, its fun to watch the other team suffer. You can actually watch an entire game and not be bored, cos you wouldn't know where the goal was going to come from. I never play on contain, its too low. It's like pure defensive, that is tony pullis football area.

    Oh okay I got it, less risks doesn't mean don't risk at all :) . What about the OI's, I asked sooner. Do you think they're fundamental for a gegenpress or even in FM in general?

×
×
  • Create New...