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  1. Youth Intake Day! A pretty good first intake! He looks outrageously good for this level. He can't kick a ball, but he can run! Could be a fairly tidy FB.
  2. We've chosen to load a lot of leagues this time round to try and add some variety to the teams in Europe, although we'll probably have to get rid of most of these once the game begins to hang. We've also ticked the box to add all players from continental competitions in Europe so we don't play against greyed out players often, and there's the Swedish, Welsh and Turkish Leagues set to view-only, too. Attribute masking is turned off because we're not going to be signing any players anyway, and so it'll make it easier to give updates about the state of world football and show who some of the best players in the world are. The in game editor is enabled, because I like to change the kits up every so often to keep things fresh, and to poke under the hood of the other Sammarinese teams to see how they're doing in terms of developing their infrastructure.
  3. List of Targets: Something that I'm adding onto this year is a list of mini-targets to achieve. I'll be adding to these when I think of more, but these are the ones for now:
  4. Hall of Fame: For those special players that'll be remembered forever by San Giovanni and Sammarinese fans.
  5. Some more anecdotes from the National Team, courtesy of http://sanmarinodocumentary.com/anecdotes-indes#goals: - When San Marino earned their first ever point against Estonia, the players celebrated by.... drinking strawberry vodka and smoking cigarettes all night long, a thought that would certainly upset the fitness staff for a bigger team! - San Marino were 'sponsored' by Adidas - I say sponsored, because Adidas would only give them blank shirts, on which they'd have to sew the Sammarinese badge on themselves. - When Manuel Battistini swapped shirts with Wayne Rooney, he tried it on 'to see where Rooney's muscles were'. - Against Lithuania, San Marino won a free kick. Nicola Chiaruzzi told Matteo Vitaioli to try the 'dead leaf' free kick technique. Vitaioli didn't know how, so he just smashed it as hard as he could. That was San Marino's first away goal in 14 years. - Nicola Chiaruzzi missed San Marino's game against Slovenia because he couldn't find anybody to cover his shift at a bar. Similarly, goalkeeper Aldo Junior Simoncini once missed a game against Ukraine to stay home and study Algebra for an exam. San Marino lost 9-0, but Simoncini passed his exam.
  6. (With thanks to @Deisler26 for the title) We're back! San Marino are, quite literally, the worst team in world football. Sitting at 211st out of 211 national teams, they're below such giants as Eritrea (who's entire National Team seems to flee and seek asylum every time they play an away game), The British Virgin Islands, Anguilla, Montserrat... you get the point. With a population of 33,000, San Marino have as many competitive wins as they do traffic lights in the country - zero. One of the smallest countries in the world, they have a National holiday every time the team scores a goal. They don't get those holidays very often. The players in the national team are essentially the same as you and me. Outside of one or two professionals, they all work real, 9-5 jobs. Here's the list of occupations from a Euro 2016 qualification match: They head into every game knowing that not only is a win unlikely, but to keep the score down to less than 5 would be a good day at the office. They're underdogs in every sense of the word. With club football being increasingly dictated by the size of the owners wallet, many fans are instead looking towards international football. There's no money in international football, no buying better players or skirting around financial fair play rules. It's a question of sport, rather than finances. There's always a chance of an underdog causing an upset, and San Marino might be the biggest underdogs there are in the sporting world. These are ordinary people, going out to compete for their country against some of the best players in the world. My favourite story about the National Team is this: In their final pre-match warmup before taking on England, Nicola Chiaruzzi's boots fell apart. Chiaruzzi went off to Wembley in search of a new pair of boots, and had a shop assistant begin to explain to him how best to break in the boots. Chiaruzzi calmly explained that, actually, he wouldn't have the time to do that. He was looking for boots that he could wear in two hours time at Wembley. Despite being continually ridiculed by the press in every game they play, they continue to compete, hoping that one day, that upset might come. Let's see if we can get that upset.
  7. "Football is not owned by [the elite], but by all of those who love it. Among which, we are included." "There are still guys who follow their dreams, and not your rules." --- Alan Gasperoni, Sammarinese director of communications.
  8. "San Marino is nothing to do with Professional football." --- Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, former German international.
  9. "Everyone who is normal... sees themselves in us." --- Giampaolo Mazza, San Marino NT Coach.
  10. My scouts were able to find a couple of Egyptian players, who I then just had them continually scout to get a greater profile of. But you're right, and not having the league loaded is maybe another reason why there aren't as many excellent Egyptian regens coming through
  11. Interesting! I agree with @oblongata21 in that I've seen a fair few decent Egyptian players come through (there's an incredible one in my Rotherham save right now, but he won't get a work permit ) However, if we look at the facilities Egyptian teams have... Al-Ahly and Zamalek are by far the two biggest teams in the country - but Al-Ahly have just a 9/20 for Junior Coaching. Both clubs have good facilities, but not at the level you'd expect for two teams of that stature. Ismaily, the third biggest club, have decent facilities too, but after that, it's a mess. Tersana have just a 3/20 for youth facilities, Pyramids FC have a 1/20 for training facilities, ENPI have a 4/20 for youth facilities, etc. Really, there's only three clubs with the infrastructure in place to continually produce and develop talent - compare that to a country like England or Spain, when you'll have closer to maybe 40 clubs with that ability. I'd wager that if somebody downloaded the Egyptian league and had a successful, long term save there developing the infrastructure, we'd see Egypt rise right to the top of the international scene.
  12. I was reading the excellent book Thirty-One Nil, and this quote by Edson Taveres, the former Haiti National Team coach caught my eye: "I have never seen a country with so many talents like here. Players of 14 years old here, if you put them in Manchester United and Barcelona, they would be a great player. The problem is to be a great player you need to have good food, a good environment, good training, good doctors. So here there is nothing." It got me thinking that Taveres might well have a point. Talent can be found everywhere, but without the infrastructure in place to nurture it, that talent will never be realised. I began to think about it in FM terms. In FM, there is certain infrastructure that you can change. Through building up a club in a nation, you can improve the training facilities, the youth facilities, the level of junior coaching, and the reputation of football in the country (all things that have an impact on the quality of youth player coming through your club). However, certain things are hardcoded, and thus cannot be changed throughout a game. These include: Nation Youth Level Game Importance How Developed the Country is (Developed, Developing or a Third World State) The Economic Factor FA Economic Power I wondered how these hardcoded elements played into the level of quality that a youth intake in a certain country would see. Just how important are each of these factors in determining the quality of players that come through a nation? I decided to run a little experiment to put it to the test. I've got an affinity to San Marino, so I decided to run the tests in the Sammarinese League structure made by the excellent @claassen. This also meant that the players would be coming from a country with a small population, so we'd also be able to check whether population was a major hindrance on the quality of player coming through. Just like in any science lesson, we needed a 'control' set to be able to compare our results to. To set up the control, here's what I did: All 15 clubs in the country were given a reputation of 2000/10000 Every club was given 10 for Training and Youth Facilities, Youth Recruitment, Junior Coaching, and Corporate Facilities San Marino's Nation Youth Rating was set to 80/200 San Marino was listed as a Third World State They were given a 1/20 for Economic Factor and FA Financial Power I took control of all 15 clubs, and decided to run 50 simulations of youth intake day. 15 clubs * 16 players * 50 simulations = 12,000 players per test. Is this enough to draw any foolproof conclusions? Absolutely not. However, it should be enough to showcase any obvious trends. In the end, I tested 5 different scenarios. They were: The control test Bumped the Economic Factor and the FA Financial Power up to 20/20 Set San Marino to be a 'Developed State' Set the Youth Rating to 163/200 - as this is the highest youth rating in the database (Brazil) it made sense to choose this, rather than a 200/200 Set the Game Importance to 'Very Important'. Everything else in each test remained the same as the control test - it was important to only change the variables that we were testing for so we could prove a correlation. Each scenario was ran for 50 simulations, meaning 12,000 players in each test. I decided to track how many times a player with a PA over 120 was generated, as 120 is - to me, at least - the very baseline for a player to become a full international for a decent country. As an example of what I was tracking, here's a barchart for the control test's findings: Barcharts are nice, but to show how each scenario performed in relation to each other, I made this graph instead: And, wow! I knew that Youth Rating would have a major impact on the PA of players coming through, but I didn't expect it to be so conclusively the most important hardcoded factor. In all the tests, we had a similar number of 120-129 PA players, but every single scenario in which the Youth Rating was 80 failed to produce a single player with a PA of 170+ (which we could consider a 'star' player) - except for one solitary player when the Game Importance was set to 'Very Important'. However, looking at the general trend of the Very Important Game Importance, there is no real discernible difference to the other scenarios, and so we can likely chalk this up to a fluke occurrence. What does this all mean? Well, I'm not going to say anything has been decisively proven, because there are a myriad of factors that go into the quality of player produced by a nation. Instead, I think that it's safe to say that, out of all the hardcoded factors, the Nation Youth Rating is the major factor when it comes to determining the quality of player that is produced by a nation. Note - this is not the same as saying Nation Youth Rating is the most important factor entirely! Edson Taveres' argument makes sense - without the infrastructure to develop the players, their quality is irrelevant. Things such as Training and Youth Facilities, Junior Coaching, Youth Recruitment, and Club and Nation Reputation will have a huge impact on the quality of player coming through your club. However... A very popular type of save over on the FM Career Updates forum has been a 'Youth Only' challenge, in which the player picks a smaller, more obscure nation, and tries to win the Champions League and have international success with players produced purely through your academy. San Marino and Gibraltar are two of the more popular nations to try this challenge in, but are (unsurprisingly) extremely difficult. I wanted to know of some smaller nations that somebody could try this challenge with, but a nation that had the potential to lend itself to great success. Now that we know that Nation Youth Rating is really the only factor likely to make a monumental difference, what would be a good country to choose and try to carry out a 'road to glory' style save with? Let's take a look continent by continent, starting with the only two continents to ever produce a World Cup Winner.... Europe: San Marino and Gibraltar are two of the more popular destinations, but with the two lowest Youth Ratings in the continent are only recommended for the extremely hardcore! Turkey are surprisingly high on the list, with a Youth Rating at 124/200 - ahead of Holland and England! Serbia have a Youth Rating of 100, and have a history of producing some very talented players. Croatia are just behind at 98 - maybe you want to see if you can go one better than they did in 2018? To be honest, there aren't many European nations who aren't suited to this kind of save. Every country would have the potential to make a splash on the international scene if managed correctly - even San Marino, as demonstrated here by @Makoto Nakamura: South America: Venezuela has to be the choice here. The only South American nation to never qualify for a World Cup, it's a country in turmoil right now. They could really do with a successful football team to unite the country and find something to celebrate. North America: Honduras, Costa Rica, Jamaica, Guatemala, Trinidad and Tobago, Canada and Cuba are the nations with the highest potential behind the 'big two' of America and Mexico. However, there's talent in El Salvador and Haiti, two countries that are maybe slightly less developed away from football. Oceania: Almost certainly the weakest continent in football, anybody who could take an Oceanian team to international glory would go down in history. New Zealand are the strongest team in the continent, but the Solomon Islands and Tahiti aren't too bad, either. Africa: When Taveres spoke about the talent not having the infrastructure to develop, he almost certainly could have had Africa in mind. Egypt, Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Algeria and DR Congo all have a Youth Rating of over 100. Sudan are probably the most surprising country high on the list, with a Youth Rating of 74. If anybody was interested in taking an African team to international glory, there's an absolute plethora of choices. You just need to sort out the infrastructure Asia: Not a country known for prominence in football, there's nonetheless a lot of talent here. Japan and South Korea unsurprisingly lead the way, but what is surprising is that Jordan, Iraq and Iran are all only just behind them. India and Bahrain are also high up, and who could resist the chance to take Syria to World Cup glory? The point of this post was first to share my findings from the 'experiment', but also to give an indication of which nations could become real international forces in FM with some development (or an excellent place to scout for players...). If anybody is interested in seeing the full list of every country on FM with their hardcoded features (including Youth Rating), I've included the spreadsheet I created as a file on this post. I'd seriously recommend a save where you try and take one of the countries on the list to international glory - it's a lot of fun! And if you are tempted by such a save, it's worth checking out the FM Career Updates forum, where people often try similar saves. Copy of FM Youth Ratings(2415).xlsx
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