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Okay, so basically your team is at the max closing down, so there is nowhere more to close down for those players. They are already at the max, so of course the only options for them are less closing down.
Yes, but shouldn't the players have their PI set to sometimes, since this one equals the TI ?
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I am not really sure what you are asking here. I have two IFs in my setup and they both have closing down the same as the team setting. That is where they defaulted to for me. Maybe a screen shot would help show what you mean?
I could post a screenshot, but the game is in portuguese so I'm not sure it would help.
My close down TI is set to Much More, so "sometimes" would be the maximum PI the players would have (as "sometimes" being equal to close down like the team does), but the only PI options are less and much less.
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I'm using a SS at time with a 4-2-3-1 with two CMs. I have DLF (S) in front of him, and he gets forward all the time, and scores a good bit 6 in 12, though the DLF is more of a goal scoring threat. He does resemble the Treq at times, but I see a lot more forward penentration than you are noticing. I think a key is to have space ahead, so your F needs to be dropping off or going wide to open up room for the SS. If you notice his default position is a lot close to the striker than the standard AMC. DId you try the DLK of support? If so, you might try getting him to move out wide into channels.
Dr. Hook can you help ? Thanks
I would really like to understand this (although I made a mistake with my former noob question about the wing-back), but I have an IF that has an option to close down less or much less, the same for an AP with attack duty, the same for an AP with support suty, the same for the False 9. Why can't these guys close down like the team (meaning, the team instruction) ???
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I would really like to understand this (although I made a mistake with my former noob question about the wing-back), but I have an IF that has an option to close down less or much less, the same for an AP with attack duty, the same for an AP with support suty, the same for the False 9. Why can't these guys close down like the team (meaning, the team instruction) ???
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You can already see him as this though.
And that's with the TI of close down much more active.
So I've still no idea what you are on about.
Thanks for the screenshot, I do not remember what I had set, but I had some TI to close down more and the winback PI didn't have the option to close down like the team. But right now, I'm looking at the False 9 and he can't close down like the team, only less or much less.
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A wingback on attack is set to close down sometimes already. Then you have the option to change that to less or much less. So not sure what you're asking here?
The issue is that "sometimes" is not in the PI, not even as hard-coded, the only two options are close down less or much less. Wouldn't it be more clarifying if we could see that he's already set to close down sometimes ?
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Can anyone elucidate why a wingback (a) can only close down less or much less than the team (the TI is set to close down much more) ??? why can't he close down sometimes (like the team) ????... it seems the question suits any player.
anyone ?
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Can anyone elucidate why a wingback (a) can only close down less or much less than the team (the TI is set to close down much more) ??? why can't he close down sometimes (like the team) ????... it seems the question suits any player.
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I'm cheating when using all the tight mark, closing down, tackle hard, and show onto weak foot at OP instructions?
By doind this my team plays at defense exactly how I want.
Do you think its cheating, or using some legal tool in a "bad" way?
OP instructions are a tool, where does the "cheating" idea comes from ???
It's more a question if you want all the OP players to be closed down, tight marking, tackle hard and show onto weak foot. Do you ?
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An IF (a) is already a goal threat, I think your problem might be with other players and not that one. You need players to feed the IF, an AP at the MO slot might be a good solution; a False 9 would also work good with the IF.
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Sorry for the silly question if it is one but can you train a preferred move one after the other? I have a 19 year old player who i'd like to teach a PPM too. I already coached him in one but the option to Suggest Preferred Move doesn't come up for him anymore?
Yes you can. The thing is sometimes the option turns gray if the player is being tutored or if injured.
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Curls ball. They can all be taught there are no longer exclusive tutoring only PPM's.
Awesome, thanks again for your help
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It was changed for FM15.
Thanks. I think there's a ppm about finishing that is not listed, but I don't know the original term. There's: places shots, shoots from distance, Refrains from taking long shots, Shoots with Power, Attempts overhead kicks, Lob Keeper and Round Keeper. But there's another one about to give an effect to the ball (the bold word is surely translated badly).
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All PPM's can now be learnt via PPM training. There are no exclusive tutoring ones any longer. On my current save I found this player playing in Iceland;
Cleon, when you say can now be learnt do you mean FM15 or FM16 ?
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If a player plays with his back to goal, he won't drop deep to get the ball? And if a player comes deep to get the ball, surely his back will be facing the goal? And my original other question - why can't a player learn both?
Why should he drop ? The two movements don't relate with each other. A player that plays with his back to goal is a movement much more appropriate to a Striker (AF, Target Man, Poacher), creates space because of his presence and drawing the opponents to himself; a player who drops deep creates space because of his roaming from position dropping deep in this case, it's more appropriate for a False 9, a Number 10, a DLF or even for midfielders.
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What's the difference between 'comes deep to get ball' and 'plays with back to goal', and why can't a player learn both?
What's the difference :confused: it's completely different: the first one means the player will drop / come deep (near the midfield) to get the ball; the second also means exactly what it says, with his back to the goal.
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LINES & DIAMONDS: 4.11 SECONDARY PERSONAL INSTRUCTIONS
Need to scroll down a bit but that's the post.
Great, Thanks.
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Do you have the link to the article that clarifies the player instructions ? Lines and Diamonds is a very helpful source, did not noticed a PI article. Thanks, once again
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Stick to Position = Make less forward runs.
Nothing to do with Roam From Position.
Confusing labels IMO.
Ohhhhhh, ok, damn, it was difficult to deal with what you are trying to explain
thanks. Yes, sure, terrible label, hope they'll fix this.0 -
I mentioned Forward Runs because I think that's the difference, Get Further Forward and Hold Position modify the forward runs instruction whilst Roam From Position doesn't.
In old slider terms forward runs had 3 levels: "Rarely -> Sometimes -> Often" if a roles default is "Sometimes" then you can tell them to Hold Position to make it Rarely. If its Rarely then you can't go lower so the instruction is disabled.
Roam From Position gives the player permission to move in any direction from there position. Where ever they end up roaming they will then follow there instructions (creative freedom dependent).
Ok, that is just fine, but not the point here. The Roam from Position PI is coded, automatically activated, but the Stick to Position is available, so it's not the point if the player roams or not, or neither if goes forward or inside. The point is that if I select Stick to Position and since the Roam from Position is activated, how can the player stick to his position and roam from his position at the same time ? Some new law of physics, maybe ?
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My understanding is the "Get Further Forward" and "Hold Position" modify forward run instructions, more like "Make offensive runs" and "don't make offensive runs". Once you think of them like that I think you will understand the difference.
:confused:Say again, I missed that, never mentioned Forward Runs but just roam from position active and stick to position available and, if this one selected by me, how can a player Roam and Stick at the same time ? :confused:
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The wide-playmaker with support duty has a PI roam from position automaticaly active, but the PI Stick to Position is available. Is this correct ? And if correct, how does these two PI interact with each other ?
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I think this fits here: will we be able to see in FM16 the end of complacency on subs during the season and on all players during pre-season ?
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FWIW, I think there should be an option for multiple corner and free kick routines, but I don't really see any point to having individual defensive throw-in instructions given that it's not something real coaches spend a lot of time on and this is an area of the game that is already rife with potential for exploits.
Ok thanks once again (and there aren't enough thank you) for another gold piece of information
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Quickfire Questions and Answers Thread (Tactic and Training Questions Only)
in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion
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This option for Sometimes PI is confusing. I was told in the fm16 beta feedback thread by a member of SI that the PI close down "Sometimes" is basicaly telling the player to close down like the team. So, in terms of player instructions:
Much More = much more than the team
More = more than the team
Sometimes = team
Less = less than the team
Much Less = much less than the team
This is what I was told, so the Close Down player instruction is always by comparison with the team. If this is correct (and I believe it is, because it came from SI), player should have the option Sometimes in their PI even if the TI is set to close down much more. Right ?
A TI screenshot
and an example of a player (Inside Forward)
So, in this example, the IF has the option to close down less or much less than the team, but does not have the option to close down like the team closes down (the PI option Sometimes)