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  1. I think this issue may have been reported above, but just sharing here as well to provide further info Hey, good morning everybody. Having finally cracked and upgraded from my beloved FM 2018 due to the database being too far behind, I am already experiencing logical issue with the FM 2022 tactics creator. Is anybody else noticing extremely disjointed individual mentalities for players in the AM/ST strata in the FM 2022 BETA? I've just set up - what should be - a fairly well-balanced, positive 4-2-3-1 shape for Arsenal. However, somehow, the FM 2022 Tactics Creator is determining that a positive team mentality plus a support duty should result in a very attacking individual mentality for all players in the AM and ST strata. As a result, the mentality distribution is incredibly disjointed: Very Attacking Very Attacking Very Attacking Very Attacking Positive Cautious Positive Cautious Cautious Positive Positive Players in midfield and defensive stratas look fine. For the sake of comparison, the same system in the FM2021 (demo) Tactics Creator gives a far more balanced and logical individual mentality distribution. Balanced Positive Positive Positive Positive Cautious Positive Cautious Cautious Positive Positive I haven't got as far as to play any games yet, so cannot comment as to whether it's just an interface issue or the tactics creator is genuinely churning out these mentalities. Or maybe I am badly missing some kind of logic, or have a strange instruction ticked. I'll play a few games and see how it is today. Hopefully can be resolved before the main release!
  2. Hey, good morning everybody. Having finally cracked and upgraded from my beloved FM 2018 due to the database being too far behind, I am already experiencing logical issue with the FM 2022 tactics creator. Is anybody else noticing extremely disjointed individual mentalities for players in the AM/ST strata in the FM 2022 BETA? I've just set up - what should be - a fairly well-balanced, positive 4-2-3-1 shape for Arsenal. However, somehow, the FM 2022 Tactics Creator is determining that a positive team mentality plus a support duty should result in a very attacking individual mentality for all players in the AM and ST strata. As a result, the mentality distribution is incredibly disjointed: Very Attacking Very Attacking Very Attacking Very Attacking Positive Cautious Positive Cautious Cautious Positive Positive Players in midfield and defensive stratas look fine. For the sake of comparison, the same system in the FM2021 (demo) Tactics Creator gives a far more balanced and logical individual mentality distribution. Balanced Positive Positive Positive Positive Cautious Positive Cautious Cautious Positive Positive I haven't got as far as to play any games yet, so cannot comment as to whether it's just an interface issue or the tactics creator is genuinely churning out these mentalities. Or maybe I am badly missing some kind of logic, or have a strange instruction ticked. I'll play a few games and see how it is today. Hopefully can be resolved before the main release!
  3. Hey, good morning everybody. Hello from the beach of Kenya Apologies for the radio silence. Work and life have been well and truely in the way of finding time to complete the twilight years of this save. Am hoping to find some time this week, and maybe provide something new (time permitting, of course). Thanks for your patience and continued support
  4. Good question you're absolutely correct that team mentality, role, duty - and I'd add individual mentality to that list - are extremely confusing. In the FM Tactics Creator, individual Mentality is a function of team mentality and duty (with some influence of TIs). In real football, the 'team' is a function of the individuals. Personally, I'd flip the Tactics Creator on it's head and set individual mentalities, do away with roles and have team mentality as a function of the individual mentalities set. Regarding your question about whether individual mentality or role will be more of a factor in determining a players behavior, ultimately the answer is both. My approach is to decide which duty I need within the framework of my team as a whole, and then select a role within that duty which has the behaviors I am looking for. In your example, it may be Get Forward More or Hold Position. Beware of the statement about using more defensive roles in a defensive mentality as role and team mentality are cumulative so a defensive role in a defensive system will be extremely defensive, likewise an attacking role in an attacking system will be extremely attacking. My advice would actually be the opposite. I will often select duties which counter-act my team mentality. For example, in a Defensive team mentality I will use more Attacking duties. In an Attacking system, most of my team will be on Support as they're attacking collectively, rather than as individuals. Hope that makes sense.
  5. Thank you for your kind words The flat midfield 3 - in a 1-2 or S-D-S setup - used to be an absolute favourite of mine, however I must admit having moved away from it lately. In particular, the versatility of the Central Midfielder (Support) was something I built a lot of earlier success on. In the screenshot you reference, Joao Felix and Florentino Luis are two completely different players playing the same role in a completely different way. The advantage of the flat 3 midfield is the wider midfielders naturally sitting in the half-spaces and you'll notice they flank a 2-man opposition midfield beautifully. The disadvantage is that the DLP(D) is more effective in the earlier build up play from the DM strata so it's a trade off. The main reason I moved away from it was actually finding the right player for the DLP(D) position. The DLP(D) plays two essential roles. He is both your playmaker and holding midfielder. Tiago Dantas is fairly unique in that he does both roles at an elite level. But elsewhere, just try searching for players with great playmaking attributes like vision, technique, first touch, passing and also able to hold a midfield with anticipation, decisions, positioning, concentration etc. One option is to find a high-potential young playmaker early and train him to hold the midfield, particularly in those formative years however this is a long term solution. Beyond that, you're most likely to want to split the roles down, for example in other saves I'll regularly use a Half-Back with either a DLP(S) or even RPM(S) and then a more attacking player with them. If you do go with that system, you'll want the wide midfielders to be hard working, creative players. Kevin de Bruyne and Bernardo Silva are great examples. Or you could go one more attacking and one more defensive, like Paul Pogba and N'golo Kante. Excellent. Yea, I can imagine he's going to be an extremely valuable player if Kompany manages to tutor him into a Model Citizen. In other news *spoiler alert*.. Update to follow next time I get a reliable internet connection
  6. Interesting video about use of similar defensive shapes when you're faced with a mismatch I use a Defend and a Support role. Most commonly either a Ball-Winning Midfielder (Defend) and a Box-to-Box Midfielder (Support) or simply a Central Midfielder (Defend) and a Central Midfielder (Support). Note that nobody in my squad, even right the way up to the Premier League, was high enough quality to be a playmaker. You do need one of them getting into the space ahead of the midfield and connecting with the attack as that's one of the weaknesses of the 3-4-2-1 variants. I found work rate and general dynamism to be more important than positioning given the midfield pivot is often outnumbered 3v2 and does have a 3 (or 5) man defence behind them.
  7. Personally, I would be keeping him at the club and tutoring him. After that I would be thinking about a loan or finding space for him in the first team squad. I love players like this. Positioning 14, vision 14, decisions 15 (you need to work on his technique a bit). He looks like an ideal Half Back. With 2.5-3.5 star potential it looks like he's never going to set the world alight but he could play a squad role, something similar to the way I used Pedro Rodrigues earlier in this save. Well rounded, reliable, great tutor and likely to be easier to keep hold of than some of the other superstars.
  8. He's at Chelsea. He unfortunately fell victim to being another 'Number 10' type player amid a conveyor belt of world class 10s.
  9. Honestly, beggars can't be choosers. I was looking for the best all round players I could find, but ultimately working with what I had available. My most effective strategy was sniffing around the academies of the big clubs I find that they produce very good quality players, but are also very wasteful and struggle to find opportunities for their young players. I eventually settled on a structured, medium block 3-4-2-1 which was solid but also easily created a 3-2-5 in attack. I hope to find time to eventually write a thread about it, but it's again very FM2018 specific.
  10. Excellent question. In most cases, my advice would be to think in absolute terms. In other words, mostly based on the absolute ability of your players, rather than their ability in relation to your opponent. Take Decisions as an example; say your guy has a decisions of 7 but your opponent has decisions of 4. Your player with will likely make better decisions than the opponent but their absolute decision making ability is still not at a level where they will consistently make good decisions. These days I am actually using Structured styles of play a lot and getting excellent results. It's a little bit more work in the tactics creator to get compactness - mainly between midfield and defence and on the flanks - but it's far more applicable to a wider range of sides (than the 1% who can pull off Very Fluid Overload )
  11. It's in the post above. It's a custom view on your squad screen. You can find pass percentage etc under Statistics
  12. That's strange. It's always a fairly extremely possession oriented system so I would not suggest going any further down the possession route if it's not working. You could try setting up a squad view and see if you can see any obvious weak-spots.
  13. I don't see anything badly wrong with the system. My experience that setup was high possession numbers with fairly few goals but generally dominating enough to make it over the line. What issues are you seeing? Squad also looks good. A few areas could do with upgrades, but I guess you're aware of that.
  14. Wonderful thank you for sharing. That Ajax side really is ready made for the 3-4-3 diamond Maybe try posting your team so I can see what you're trying to do?
  15. Yes, I found the same. I find the Mezala is great at connecting the midfield and attack, but I don't get enough output in comparison to, say, an inside forward. That's one of the reasons I retrained Valentim and Costa to play as Inside Forwards with Benfica when they were really ideal Mezalas. Yes, I have experimented a bit with back 3 variants. Mainly: 3-1-4-2 variants with a single pivot, two attacking central midfielders and two attackers. 3-4-1-2 variants with a double pivot, single attacking midfielder and two attackers. 3-4-2-1 variants with a double pivot and a front 3. Right now my preference is toward the latter. I like the ease in which the 3-4-2-1 defends as a 5-4-1 and attacks as a 3-2-5. I find playing a medium block with direct transitions particularly effective.
  16. Possibly. Playing an English club and a lower league side are probably the most common request. I actually made the decision to re-run the save. Firstly, I am not particularly experienced at motoring through the football league system so I learnt a lot during my first run through which I would now like to apply. Secondly, I was using an unofficial update which unbalanced the game. Ole Gunnar Solksjaer got Manchester United relegated playing an obscure 3-1-5-1 and retrained Aaron Wan Bassaka as a striker I've become a lot more pragmatic tactically and had to be a lot more resourceful in attracting the right players. Essentially it's almost a pre-cursor to this thread; building the foundations of a football club which took Benfica to the level they are in this save. If I do go ahead with a thread, I would want to make it as replicable as possible; not relying on getting lucky with newgens or lucrative cup runs. Good guess! Not bad for a semi-professional, non-league side
  17. Wonderful post, thank you for sharing Do you mind if I ask you what kind of output you're getting out of the MEZ (A) on the right and what kind of player you're using? I used to love 3-5-2 variants but have moved away lately in favour of 3-4-3 (ish) variants because I get more attacking output out of a front three plus wingbacks but I still feel there's untapped potential in there somewhere. Another question, if I may, is how did you do in the league? and - something I'm becoming increasingly interested in - how did you get on in the league above?
  18. Wonderful post, thank you for sharing Do you mind if I ask you what kind of output you're getting out of the MEZ (A) on the right and what kind of player you're using? I used to love 3-5-2 variants but have moved away lately in favour of 3-4-3 (ish) variants because I get more attacking output out of a front three plus wingbacks but I still feal there's untapped potential in there somewhere. Another question, if I may, is how did you do in the league? and - something I'm becoming increasingly interested in - how did you get on in the league above? Thank you for the sentiment For the record, I have no preference. These threads are always intended to be a discussion and - more than anything - I am interested to see how people adapt these ideas to their own team. I will copy my answer above into your new thread and respond in whichever you choose
  19. That's a really good question; possibly an entire thread of it's own to give a thorough answer I love the 3-4-2-1, however it's a formation with it's own strengths and weaknesses and it doesn't necessarily suit the way I am playing with Benfica. Personally I like 3-4-2-1 as a medium or low block pressing system. In a high-block - such as the system I play at Benfica - it suffers from only having 3 players in advanced positions to press and the double pivot is typically a little deeper than you could afford playing a 3-man midfield in a 4-3-3. The second 'con' is that it costs me an attacking player. In recent saves, I have been trying to create a 3-1-6 in attack whereas the 3-4-2-1 naturally gives a 3-2-5 attacking shape. 3-2-5 is still a great attacking shape, but it's different to my current approach. This is not intended to put anyone off. Actually one of my best saves at the moment is employing a 3-4-2-1 variant but it's a very different side. 3-4-2-1 could be argued to be a very advantageous formation given the state of modern football: The ease in which it transitions between a 5-4-1 defensive shape and a 3-2-5 attacking shape. Defensively the back 5-man defence helps counter-act the tendency for modern coaches to play 2-3-5/3-2-5 attacking variants. Hope this helps
  20. Good question - here is Jose Manuel Fernandez today. He was actually picked up by one of our scouts very young and spent a few years playing cup matches and for Benfica B before eventually taking over from Rulli. I actually prioritised mental attributes - namely, anticipation, decisions and positioning. Plus vision was very nice to have. Looking at his development - particularly vision, which is not covered in GK routines - I think the tactical team training served his development extremely well. As you can see, we had a base to work from but nothing was too high. Anticipation 14 Decisions 10 Vision 12 The combination of being tutored by Rulli, Tactical team training and Sweeper Keeper goalkeeper training, appropriate game time and the Benfica coaches/facilities served him well. Every now and again I'd use individual training to correct an imbalance but generally it was fairly straight forward to let him develop.
  21. Again, fairly minimal: Goalkeeper distribution to centre backs MCR/L and ST move into channels AM roam from position Think that's it, off the top of my head. Yes, I actually think it would work best with a Control mentality. The weakness is clearly defence, so having the ball as much as possible mitigates that and the general formation should be able to control possession really well. My biggest concern would be in the overall quality of the team, I would re-think if we weren't such a dominant side as the lack of wide defenders is a clear weak-spot. Enjoy
  22. Yes, of course everybody has their own opinion. For me, the biggest issue is the lack of functionality since removing Team Shape. Unfortunately users can no longer create simple, perfectly logical systems due to not having the functionality (see Total Football thread). Almost every time I try to create anything in the recent tactics creator I end up with varying degrees of compromise for no logical reason. Right now I am interested in a lot of the ideas coming out of Germany where you have lots of sides playing well-organised, collective systems. In FM2018 I can set a structured team shape to give me that well-organised system and then lots of Support duties to get the team playing as a collective. If I do the same in a new FM then I can only use the Support duties, then I am labelled Fluid and I understand that is only a label but it's just not what I want. Actually at this point, I would not want to go back. I would like to see the removal of Team Mentality and Duties. Instead I suggest you choose your formation, roles and then select your individual mentalities. Team mentality would simply be a description, based on the combination of individual mentalities you have selected, perhaps with a preset of suggested TIs which are customisable. To me, doing this the other way around puts the cart before the horse. Building tactics from the bottom up would be far more realistic and give you infinitely more possibilities. Good question. It's quite a long answer but you should hopefully find everything you need in the earlier content of the thread Long story short, I'm typically focusing on: Finding the best raw talent available Through my own academy Through feeder clubs Through extensive scouting Creating conditions for them to develop Maintaining club facilities Hiring high quality coaching staff Having tutors available early Ensuring they have enough game time at the correct level Monitoring progress every 3 months and adjusting accordingly My approach has always been to produce intelligent, technically capable, well-rounded and versatile players who work hard and have a good personality. You actually don't need the highest ability in the world. I've been surprised how much I can get out of a 3-star player. See earlier posts about Luis Pinheiro, Pedro Rodrigues, Goncalo Oliveira in this thread. They all came through with the original golden generation and peaked at 3-star potential but Luis Pinheiro is entering his 10th season at Atleti having made 300+ appearances, Pedro Rodrigues played 200 Premier League matches and captained Arsenal and Goncalo Oliveira generated £100m+ in transfer revenue over his career and scored 150+ goals for Milan, Real Madrid and Bayern. As a result, many of the guys who don't make it into our teams go on to have good careers elsewhere. As for the volume, you've got to be organised and create a production line. I typically hire 11-18 new young players every season. Say we call it 15 and say I've had 12 seasons to produce players (given more recent players are still in the academy), that's 180 so slightly over half are making it through to top flight leagues. Yes! Newcastle are a cool story in this save. Rafa Benitez got them relegated in 2019 but then Didier Deschamps took them back up and got them back into the top 6 within a few years. Looks like they must have had money from somewhere as they've spent upwards of £100m every year for a decade. Nothing particularly fancy, just goalkeeper distribution and move into channels on the central midfielders/attacking players off the top of my head. Roaming on the AMC also
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