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  1. 1 hour ago, santy001 said:

    SI make an announcement that women's football will be coming to FM in the future, as part of a clear long-term roadmap for the series over a number of years.

    This is however a clear indication that there is a lack of a clear long-term roadmap for the series.

    Do you see the self-contradiction?

    You're right, the women's football announcement is a sign of long-term plan being introduced. It's late as it should have been started a few years ago, but it is refreshing and there should be more shared about other things that are in longer-term plans for the series. (Such a plan shared a few years ago and making it clear that Classic/Touch would be discontinued but that more customisation features would follow in subsequent iterations and the game would eventually come to tablets, would for example mean there would be a lot fewer replies in this thread expressing surprise and concern.)

    The core of my post was the lack of customisation options and the steady reduction in platforms where the game can be played. This is where the series is going wrong, and where the impact of the lack of a plan in this area 5, 10, and 15 years ago is currently being felt - it's clearly not feasible to introduce all of the customisation features in a single year, however if there had been a plan put in place when SI owned Out of the Park Baseball (i.e. fifteen years ago!), many of those customisation features would be in place by now.

    Continuing in the current direction with a decision like canning Classic may "add up" for this year's financial accounts, however it is a missed opportunity to retain and recapture certain types of fan and also attract others.

  2. After being inspired by the World Cup, I just logged in after a long absence and was delighted to see a notification that my exploits (referred to just a page ago) still live long in the memory!

    I'm a lot busier than I was a few years ago but I'm hopeful of catching up on your respective campaigns and maybe even joining again. Great to see this still going :-)

  3. I'm sure that at least one person has won the asian cup with (or at least managed) saudi arabia, but I have no idea how it would be possible to make them managable in the game by adding leagues.

    This was me, and although I never noticed whether their job was available late in the save, I certainly noticed that they still had some star players: I managed a world class Saudi striker at Barcelona much later, for example.

    It does sound a very frustrating situation that you're in, not just having to fast-forward to the Asian Cup each time you get knocked out of it, but also only having one realistic job you can take to have a go at it. Let's hope you get it done this time!

  4. That last Champions League must have been torture. What an epic quest!

    Going 3-0 down to Bayern, you'd assume I'd have another season at least. Somehow we got those four goals in basically ten minutes. I really couldn't believe it. After that, Porto and Hamburg to be honest weren't on the same level (and I think playing Porto at home first was a big help - we got a big lead which made the away game much easier, whereas when we trailed the year before they were really able to limit us at Eastlands). A Final can go either way, but we'd had some fab domestic results (beating Chelsea 8-1 early in the season was insane and we won multiple games 5-0!) which I knew made us the favourite and so it proved. In the end it wasn't so much torture as a profound sense of relief that we got it done.

    I didn't actually congratulate you using words. It's some achievement playing so many seasons. At the start you seemed to play a season a day. You've been a wonderful participant in the thread, so I hope that even if you don't start the challenge again, you'll still pop in and give us some words of advice.

    I believe when I started the challenge it was in the period when I wasn't working, and therefore pretty much full-time immersed in FM! I guess it was close to a season every day and a half at that point. It helped that some of those Asian leagues had much shorter seasons: certainly once I got to Brazil in particular, and to an extent England with all the cup competitions, it was a much longer undertaking.

    Those circumstances were a bit unique and I'm not sure I'll be able to mount a long enough effort to win the challenge in FM16. It took me a long time (in game) because I wasn't very effective at league competitions compared to many of the other challengers that we've seen (I think I did pretty well at knockout competitions, particularly international - I guess I find it easier not to lose than I do to win the games to win a title, that Man City league title at the end for example felt unusually comfortable compared to the others). I'm really pleased I had the opportunity to complete the challenge, something of this length is quite remarkable and definitely my biggest ever FM achievement.

    I'll definitely try and stick around and encourage everyone else!

  5. Season 2084/85 - Man City



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    League | Schedule Part 1, Part 2 & Part 3

    The vast financial resources that had lured me back to City continued to pay dividends: the squad I've built is the finest I've managed, and although I took a ridiculous £50m offered by Paris-SG for one of my top players, we retained the services of Brazilian striker and World Player of the Year Amoroso and continued to put a fine starring cast around him, the pick of this year's additions being German left winger Bülent Guser from Bayern for £38m, who notched an impressive 18 goals and 30 assists in a fine first campaign at Eastlands.

    After an indifferent start to the season (where we weren't alone: everyone was beating everyone early in the season), we really put our pedal to the metal from December (where we won all 7 of our games) onwards, dominating proceedings domestically as we set a new Premier League goalscoring record, retained the title with four games to spare, and marched to the FA Cup Final where we unfortunately lost to Newcastle (although frankly if I have to lose, that'll do nicely!)

    But what of Europe, the only battleground that mattered for finally finishing the challenge? We cantered through a meek Group Stage, unbeaten despite playing the youth team for the final two games with qualification already assured, and our seeding meant we'd surely get a nice and easy Knockout Round challenge against one of those terrible Group runner-ups?

    No, we wouldn't: we had to face FC Bayern, my nemesis with a fantastic record against us which looked sure to continue when they followed up a 2-0 first leg win by taking the lead with an away goal at the City of Manchester Stadium. But then came a remarkable turn-around, a quick flurry of four goals in the minutes either side of half time turning the game on its head, before we added three more on the counter-attack as we put our opponents to the sword and secured a place in the Quarter Final. A special mention here for Guser, who grabbed 4 assists against his former employers to justify his transfer fee in that game alone.

    Up next were my previous team Hamburg, and although they were worthy Quarter Finalists, they'd not been managed brilliantly since I left them and after a solid 1-1 draw away we blasted four past them at home to set up another reunion: this time with Porto, another former employer and actually the competition's reigning champions. The Portuguese were to meet a similar fate: we won 4-1 in the first leg to take complete control, and even a 2-0 defeat in Oporto wasn't enough to dampen our day.

    The final hurdle saw us face our bitter city rivals Manchester United at the Stade de France. We were briefly worried when Darren Phillips equalised midfield wonderkid Jamie Holmes's first-half opener early in the second half, but the irrepressible Amoroso smashed home a goal shortly after the hour mark before strike partner Enrico Roggia, man of the match in the Final, put some gloss on the result with a late third.

    We were Champions of Europe. I'd scooped every landmark needed to complete the Ultimate Football Manager Challenge. The turtle had finally run its race.

    Challenge Progress

    Club

    10/10 top domestic leagues (ARG, DEU, ENG, ESP, FRA, IND, ITA, KOR, POR, USA)

    11/10 domestic cups (AUS, BRA, DEU, ENG, ESP, FRA, IND, ITA, KOR, MEX, POR)

    5/5 club continental championships (Africa, Asia, Europe, N.Am., S.Am.)

    1/1 club world championship

    International

    5/5 continental tournaments (Africa, Asia, Europe, N.Am., S.Am.)

    2/2 world tournaments (WC, Confed.)

    Seasons

    CLUB CAREER
                                   Leagues        Cups
    Season        Club           1st      2nd    1st  2nd   Cont.   CWC   Other & Notes
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2014/15  RSA  Ajax CT        12th                                     Took over with 3 games remaining, in 15th
    2015/16  RSA  Ajax CT                         R2   R1                 Sacked after 16 games, in 16th
    2016/17  AUS  Wanderers       6th             QF
    2017/18  AUS  Wanderers                       won                     Sacked after 22 games, in 10th
    2018/19  IND  Dempo                           GS                      Sacked after 19 games, in 11th
    2019/20  IND  Bengaluru       6th             SF   F
    2020/21  IND  Bengaluru       2nd             won  F
    2021/22  IND  Bengaluru       1st             GS   won  CC R2
    2022/23  IND  Bengaluru       2nd             won  F    CL Q3E
    2023/24  IND  Bengaluru                                 CC QF         Resigned after CC QF defeat/before league season
    2024     KOR  Jeju            5th             SF
    2025     KOR  Jeju            8th             SF
    2026     KOR  Jeju            8th             QF
    2027     KOR  Jeju                            QF                      Left for Pohang after 32 games, in 7th
    2027     KOR  Pohang          5th             won                     Took over with 6 games remaining, in 5th
    2028     KOR  Pohang                                    CL GS         Sacked after 16 games, in 5th
    2028     KOR  Jeonbuk         5th             SF                      Took over with 20 games remaining, in 7th
    2029     KOR  Jeonbuk                         R4                      Sacked after 35 games, in 7th
    2030     KOR  Jeju                                                    Left for Wellington after 16 games, in 4th
    2030/31  AUS  Wellington     10th
    2031/32  AUS  Wellington     10th
    2032/33  AUS  Wellington      7th
    2033/34  AUS  Wellington                                              Left for Perth after 4 games, in 6th
    2033/34  AUS  Perth           9th                                     Took over with 23 games remaining, in 10th
    2034/35  AUS  Perth           7th
    2035/36  AUS  Perth           5th/SF
    2036/37  AUS  Perth                                                   Left for Seoul after 12 games, in 2nd
    2037     KOR  Seoul           1st             SF        CL won  3rd
    2038/39  MEX  Chivas          6th/SF  3rd/ F  QF  won
    2039/40  MEX  Chivas         11th     2nd/QF            CL won
    2041     USA  New York        1st/won         R4
    2042     BRA  Internacional   5th     1st/won won                     Reached 1,000 games in management
    2043     BRA  Internacional           1st/won SF        CL QF         Left for Lanus after 34 national games, in 7th
    2044     ARG  Lanus           6th             R5        CS P2E
    2045     ARG  Lanus                           R5                      Left for Velez after 15 games, in 11th
    2045     ARG  Velez           4th/1st                   CS QF    F    Took over with 14 games remaining, in 1st
    2046     ARG  Velez           5th/4th         R7        CL won   won
    2047     ARG  Velez           1st             R7        CL QF
    2049/50  FRA  Monaco          4th             F   R4    EL GS         Sacked after final game of season
    2050/51  ITA  Inter           4th             F         EL R2
    2051/52  ITA  Inter                                                   Sacked after 16 games, in 14th
    2051/52  ITA  Lazio           8th                                     Took over with 21 games remaining, in 12th
    2052/53  ITA  Lazio                                                   Sacked after 5 games, in 17th
    2054/55  RSA  Wits           10th                 R1                  Took over with 12 games remaining, in 13th
    2055/56  RSA  Wits                            R1  R1    CL won   5th  Left for Valencia after 29 games, in 8th
    2056/57  ESP  Valencia        7th             R5        EL GS         Sacked after final game of season
    2057/58  FRA  Monaco          3rd             SF  F     EL won
    2058/59  FRA  Monaco          2nd             SF  R4    EL F
    2059/60  FRA  Monaco          1st             won QF    CL R1
    2060/61  ITA  Roma            3rd             R1        CL QF
    2061/62  ITA  Roma            3rd             R1        CL GS
    2062/63  ITA  Roma            3rd             F         EL F          Reached 2,000 games in management
    2063/64  ITA  Roma                            QF        CL QF         Resigned after 33 games, in 8th
    2064/65  ITA  Lazio          10th             R1
    2065/65  ITA  Lazio           9th             QF
    2066/67  ITA  Juventus        1st             won       CL R1
    2067/68  ESP  Valencia        2nd             QF        EL GS
    2068/69  ESP  Barcelona       1st             won       EL R1
    2069/70  ENG  Man City        7th             R3        EL won        Took over with 23 games remaining, in 10th
    2070/71  ENG  Man City        3rd             R4  R3    CL R1
    2071/72  ENG  Man City        1st             won R4    EL SF
    2072/73  POR  FCP             1st             won won   EL QF         Reached 2,500 games in management
    2073/74  ENG  Fulham         11th             R4                      Took over with 18 games remaining, in 17th
    2074/75  DEU  Hamburg         8th             F
    2075/76  DEU  Hamburg         6th             R3
    2076/77  DEU  Hamburg         4th             R3        EL GS
    2077/78  DEU  Hamburg         7th             R3        EL F
    2078/79  DEU  Hamburg         3rd             won
    2079/80  DEU  Hamburg         2nd             QF        EL QF
    2080/81  DEU  Hamburg         2nd             R2        CL SF
    2081/82  DEU  Hamburg         1st             R2        CL QF
    2082/83  ENG  Man City        2nd             R6  SF    EL F
    2083/84  ENG  Man City        1st             R4  R4    CL R1         Reached 3,000 games in management
    2084/85  ENG  Man City        1st             F   R3    CL won        Retired after CL Final win
    
    INTERNATIONAL CAREER
    
                            Rank         Cups
    Year  Nation           FIFA  NL   World  Cont. Conf. Other & Notes
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2032  Saudi Arabia      12                           Joined 11th Jul, 29th in FIFA Rankings
    2033  Saudi Arabia      25
    2034  Saudi Arabia      49         GS
    2035  Saudi Arabia                        won        Resigned 4th Feb, 38th in FIFA Rankings
    2036  Norway            61   C                       Joined 27th Jul, 54th in FIFA Rankings
    2037  Norway            57
    2038  Norway            44   B
    2039  Norway            39                           Resigned 14th Nov, 39th in FIFA Rankings
    2042  Tunisia           36                           Joined 20th Jul, 42nd in FIFA Rankings
    2043  Tunisia                             GS         Resigned 27th Jan, 37th in FIFA Rankings
    2047  South Africa      22                           Joined 17th Feb, 10th in FIFA Rankings
    2048  South Africa      19
    2049  South Africa                        won        Resigned 7th Feb, 19th in FIFA Rankings
    2049  USA               14                           Joined 1st Aug, 9th in FIFA Rankings
    2050  USA               19         GS
    2051  USA                                 won        Resigned 30th Jul, 31st in FIFA Rankings
    2052  Spain              9                           Joined 21st Jul, 7th in FIFA Rankings
    2053  Spain             10  won                      Reached 1,500 games in management
    2054  Spain              1         won               Left for Brazil 2nd Aug, 1st in FIFA Rankings
    2054  Brazil            14                           Joined 3rd Aug, 13th in FIFA Rankings
    2055  Brazil            15                GS
    2056  Brazil             2
    2057  Brazil             6
    2058  Brazil                       R1                Sacked 15th Jul, 6th in FIFA Rankings
    2058  Spain              8   A                       Joined 21st Jul, 8th in FIFA Rankings
    2059  Spain             18
    2060  Spain              2                won
    2061  Spain                 won                 won  Resigned 9th Jul, 2nd in FIFA Rankings
    2062  Brazil             6                           Joined 23rd Jul, 6th in FIFA Rankings
    2063  Brazil                              won        Resigned 7th Jul, 8th in FIFA Rankings
    
     
  6. I've just been thinking about how many languages my alter ego in the game would speak by now. I'm playing in FM Classic and it seems like it isn't possible to find out, but I guess by now it must be English, Chinese, Korean, possibly Afrikaans or something else, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and at least basic knowledge in Dutch. Crazy.

    How many languages do your managers speak? I would be interested in seeing a screenshot from someone who plays the full version and is some years into the challenge, for example vikeologist :)

    I like to think my alter ego is more like the late great Sir Bobby Robson, and is fluent only in English. Some of these young up-and-coming managers in the game world must have started off as my interpreters :)

  7. NW- I suppose it must be some comfort to you that you're not getting too close. if you're anything like me, when you do actually reach the final you won't play FM for about 5 days so that your save is a schrodengers cat situation where the CL is simultaneously won and lost.

    We weren't close in terms of the number of games we needed to win, but the FC Porto team that knocked out us out went on to thrash Bayern in the Quarter Final en route to registering a surprise Champions League win, so we went out to the eventual winners and some might say that's close. (Clutching at straws perhaps! Let's see how I can do this time...)

    I'm never saying this challenge should ever be changed, I'm just curious for other peoples thoughts.....

    A) Is the International side of things a hindrance??

    B) Do people embrace the difficulty of International management??

    (I'm "A" for what it's worth!!!!)

    I don't think you could have an "Ultimate" challenge without the World Cup especially, and it makes sense that with the challenge including the club-level Pentagon, it includes the international-level one too.

    Another Successful Season With Newcastle, Won Premier League-Cap1Cup And Champions League.

    I love how nonchalantly you say this. Absolutely spectacular, especially some of your Champions League scorelines! Fantastic achievement.

  8. Season 2083/84 - Man City



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    League | Schedule Part 1, Part 2 & Part 3

    A summer of squad building delivered an improved Manchester City, and we duly hit over 100 goals on our way to my second Premier League title, but the Challenge significance of the season disappeared when we endured a nightmare away trip to my old club FC Porto in the First Knockout Round of the Champions League, undoing some good work in the group stage and extending things by at least another year.

    Some very good signings are already lined up for the summer and the Instant Result button will be getting used on all manner of league games next year as I try to push on toward the conclusion of my epic adventure...

    Challenge Progress

    Club

    10/10 top domestic leagues (ARG, DEU, ENG, ESP, FRA, IND, ITA, KOR, POR, USA)

    11/10 domestic cups (AUS, BRA, DEU, ENG, ESP, FRA, IND, ITA, KOR, MEX, POR)

    4/5 club continental championships (Africa, Asia, N.Am., S.Am.)

    1/1 club world championship

    International

    5/5 continental tournaments (Africa, Asia, Europe, N.Am., S.Am.)

    2/2 world tournaments (WC, Confed.)

    Seasons

    CLUB CAREER
                                   Leagues        Cups
    Season        Club           1st      2nd    1st  2nd   Cont.   CWC   Other & Notes
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2014/15  RSA  Ajax CT        12th                                     Took over with 3 games remaining, in 15th
    2015/16  RSA  Ajax CT                         R2   R1                 Sacked after 16 games, in 16th
    2016/17  AUS  Wanderers       6th             QF
    2017/18  AUS  Wanderers                       won                     Sacked after 22 games, in 10th
    2018/19  IND  Dempo                           GS                      Sacked after 19 games, in 11th
    2019/20  IND  Bengaluru       6th             SF   F
    2020/21  IND  Bengaluru       2nd             won  F
    2021/22  IND  Bengaluru       1st             GS   won  CC R2
    2022/23  IND  Bengaluru       2nd             won  F    CL Q3E
    2023/24  IND  Bengaluru                                 CC QF         Resigned after CC QF defeat/before league season
    2024     KOR  Jeju            5th             SF
    2025     KOR  Jeju            8th             SF
    2026     KOR  Jeju            8th             QF
    2027     KOR  Jeju                            QF                      Left for Pohang after 32 games, in 7th
    2027     KOR  Pohang          5th             won                     Took over with 6 games remaining, in 5th
    2028     KOR  Pohang                                    CL GS         Sacked after 16 games, in 5th
    2028     KOR  Jeonbuk         5th             SF                      Took over with 20 games remaining, in 7th
    2029     KOR  Jeonbuk                         R4                      Sacked after 35 games, in 7th
    2030     KOR  Jeju                                                    Left for Wellington after 16 games, in 4th
    2030/31  AUS  Wellington     10th
    2031/32  AUS  Wellington     10th
    2032/33  AUS  Wellington      7th
    2033/34  AUS  Wellington                                              Left for Perth after 4 games, in 6th
    2033/34  AUS  Perth           9th                                     Took over with 23 games remaining, in 10th
    2034/35  AUS  Perth           7th
    2035/36  AUS  Perth           5th/SF
    2036/37  AUS  Perth                                                   Left for Seoul after 12 games, in 2nd
    2037     KOR  Seoul           1st             SF        CL won  3rd
    2038/39  MEX  Chivas          6th/SF  3rd/ F  QF  won
    2039/40  MEX  Chivas         11th     2nd/QF            CL won
    2041     USA  New York        1st/won         R4
    2042     BRA  Internacional   5th     1st/won won                     Reached 1,000 games in management
    2043     BRA  Internacional           1st/won SF        CL QF         Left for Lanus after 34 national games, in 7th
    2044     ARG  Lanus           6th             R5        CS P2E
    2045     ARG  Lanus                           R5                      Left for Velez after 15 games, in 11th
    2045     ARG  Velez           4th/1st                   CS QF    F    Took over with 14 games remaining, in 1st
    2046     ARG  Velez           5th/4th         R7        CL won   won
    2047     ARG  Velez           1st             R7        CL QF
    2049/50  FRA  Monaco          4th             F   R4    EL GS         Sacked after final game of season
    2050/51  ITA  Inter           4th             F         EL R2
    2051/52  ITA  Inter                                                   Sacked after 16 games, in 14th
    2051/52  ITA  Lazio           8th                                     Took over with 21 games remaining, in 12th
    2052/53  ITA  Lazio                                                   Sacked after 5 games, in 17th
    2054/55  RSA  Wits           10th                 R1                  Took over with 12 games remaining, in 13th
    2055/56  RSA  Wits                            R1  R1    CL won   5th  Left for Valencia after 29 games, in 8th
    2056/57  ESP  Valencia        7th             R5        EL GS         Sacked after final game of season
    2057/58  FRA  Monaco          3rd             SF  F     EL won
    2058/59  FRA  Monaco          2nd             SF  R4    EL F
    2059/60  FRA  Monaco          1st             won QF    CL R1
    2060/61  ITA  Roma            3rd             R1        CL QF
    2061/62  ITA  Roma            3rd             R1        CL GS
    2062/63  ITA  Roma            3rd             F         EL F          Reached 2,000 games in management
    2063/64  ITA  Roma                            QF        CL QF         Resigned after 33 games, in 8th
    2064/65  ITA  Lazio          10th             R1
    2065/65  ITA  Lazio           9th             QF
    2066/67  ITA  Juventus        1st             won       CL R1
    2067/68  ESP  Valencia        2nd             QF        EL GS
    2068/69  ESP  Barcelona       1st             won       EL R1
    2069/70  ENG  Man City        7th             R3        EL won        Took over with 23 games remaining, in 10th
    2070/71  ENG  Man City        3rd             R4  R3    CL R1
    2071/72  ENG  Man City        1st             won R4    EL SF
    2072/73  POR  FCP             1st             won won   EL QF         Reached 2,500 games in management
    2073/74  ENG  Fulham         11th             R4                      Took over with 18 games remaining, in 17th
    2074/75  DEU  Hamburg         8th             F
    2075/76  DEU  Hamburg         6th             R3
    2076/77  DEU  Hamburg         4th             R3        EL GS
    2077/78  DEU  Hamburg         7th             R3        EL F
    2078/79  DEU  Hamburg         3rd             won
    2079/80  DEU  Hamburg         2nd             QF        EL QF
    2080/81  DEU  Hamburg         2nd             R2        CL SF
    2081/82  DEU  Hamburg         1st             R2        CL QF
    2082/83  ENG  Man City        2nd             R6  SF    EL F
    2083/84  ENG  Man City        1st             R4  R4    CL R1         Reached 3,000 games in management
    
    INTERNATIONAL CAREER
    
                            Rank         Cups
    Year  Nation           FIFA  NL   World  Cont. Conf. Other & Notes
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2032  Saudi Arabia      12                           Joined 11th Jul, 29th in FIFA Rankings
    2033  Saudi Arabia      25
    2034  Saudi Arabia      49         GS
    2035  Saudi Arabia                        won        Resigned 4th Feb, 38th in FIFA Rankings
    2036  Norway            61   C                       Joined 27th Jul, 54th in FIFA Rankings
    2037  Norway            57
    2038  Norway            44   B
    2039  Norway            39                           Resigned 14th Nov, 39th in FIFA Rankings
    2042  Tunisia           36                           Joined 20th Jul, 42nd in FIFA Rankings
    2043  Tunisia                             GS         Resigned 27th Jan, 37th in FIFA Rankings
    2047  South Africa      22                           Joined 17th Feb, 10th in FIFA Rankings
    2048  South Africa      19
    2049  South Africa                        won        Resigned 7th Feb, 19th in FIFA Rankings
    2049  USA               14                           Joined 1st Aug, 9th in FIFA Rankings
    2050  USA               19         GS
    2051  USA                                 won        Resigned 30th Jul, 31st in FIFA Rankings
    2052  Spain              9                           Joined 21st Jul, 7th in FIFA Rankings
    2053  Spain             10  won                      Reached 1,500 games in management
    2054  Spain              1         won               Left for Brazil 2nd Aug, 1st in FIFA Rankings
    2054  Brazil            14                           Joined 3rd Aug, 13th in FIFA Rankings
    2055  Brazil            15                GS
    2056  Brazil             2
    2057  Brazil             6
    2058  Brazil                       R1                Sacked 15th Jul, 6th in FIFA Rankings
    2058  Spain              8   A                       Joined 21st Jul, 8th in FIFA Rankings
    2059  Spain             18
    2060  Spain              2                won
    2061  Spain                 won                 won  Resigned 9th Jul, 2nd in FIFA Rankings
    2062  Brazil             6                           Joined 23rd Jul, 6th in FIFA Rankings
    2063  Brazil                              won        Resigned 7th Jul, 8th in FIFA Rankings
    
     
  9. NW- Hard luck on the season, but I think you made the right choice. Always a bit exciting to see that you've posted an update. I keep expecting this to be the one. I'm like a bride who keeps expecting to receive a proposal, only to find that you're on one knee to tie up your shoelaces.

    So, out of 10, how much is your frustration with this CL quest?

    Playing yesterday I just enjoyed being back on FM! I'm not too frustrated yet. Looking forward to spending some of City's money and hopefully going deep in the CL...

  10. Season 2082/83 - Man City



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    League | Schedule Part 1, Part 2 & Part 3

    From the moment I ran out of other leagues to add to keep the challenge landmarks ticking, I'd kept La Liga and especially the Premier League as active leagues: if I failed in winning a European Cup with Hamburg, a jump to a big club with bigger TV money was surely the perfect tonic. And when the Manchester City job came up in 2082, it proved too much of a temptation and I returned to the City of Manchester Stadium and the vast wealth backing it in a heartbeat.

    A frustrating season ensued: we finished 2nd in the Premier League, one slip up in the run-in ultimately too much as even Liverpool's utter capitulation to us on the final day didn't help us past our mutual rivals Manchester United, and also not only crashed out of the Champions League but then ended up runners-up in the Europa League, losing my fourth Final of that competition (I've won two too, for a miraculous six appearances in that particular final!) - to Bayern, my long-term rivals.

    With the vast wealth of English football at my disposal, I'm sure we will improve markedly for next year. Some of this year's signings were stop-gaps, and in the summer we'll be able to do more sustainable purchasing to try and claim the one elusive landmark that I've not yet collected.

    Challenge Progress

    Club

    10/10 top domestic leagues (ARG, DEU, ENG, ESP, FRA, IND, ITA, KOR, POR, USA)

    11/10 domestic cups (AUS, BRA, DEU, ENG, ESP, FRA, IND, ITA, KOR, MEX, POR)

    4/5 club continental championships (Africa, Asia, N.Am., S.Am.)

    1/1 club world championship

    International

    5/5 continental tournaments (Africa, Asia, Europe, N.Am., S.Am.)

    2/2 world tournaments (WC, Confed.)

    Seasons

    CLUB CAREER
                                   Leagues        Cups
    Season        Club           1st      2nd    1st  2nd   Cont.   CWC   Other & Notes
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2014/15  RSA  Ajax CT        12th                                     Took over with 3 games remaining, in 15th
    2015/16  RSA  Ajax CT                         R2   R1                 Sacked after 16 games, in 16th
    2016/17  AUS  Wanderers       6th             QF
    2017/18  AUS  Wanderers                       won                     Sacked after 22 games, in 10th
    2018/19  IND  Dempo                           GS                      Sacked after 19 games, in 11th
    2019/20  IND  Bengaluru       6th             SF   F
    2020/21  IND  Bengaluru       2nd             won  F
    2021/22  IND  Bengaluru       1st             GS   won  CC R2
    2022/23  IND  Bengaluru       2nd             won  F    CL Q3E
    2023/24  IND  Bengaluru                                 CC QF         Resigned after CC QF defeat/before league season
    2024     KOR  Jeju            5th             SF
    2025     KOR  Jeju            8th             SF
    2026     KOR  Jeju            8th             QF
    2027     KOR  Jeju                            QF                      Left for Pohang after 32 games, in 7th
    2027     KOR  Pohang          5th             won                     Took over with 6 games remaining, in 5th
    2028     KOR  Pohang                                    CL GS         Sacked after 16 games, in 5th
    2028     KOR  Jeonbuk         5th             SF                      Took over with 20 games remaining, in 7th
    2029     KOR  Jeonbuk                         R4                      Sacked after 35 games, in 7th
    2030     KOR  Jeju                                                    Left for Wellington after 16 games, in 4th
    2030/31  AUS  Wellington     10th
    2031/32  AUS  Wellington     10th
    2032/33  AUS  Wellington      7th
    2033/34  AUS  Wellington                                              Left for Perth after 4 games, in 6th
    2033/34  AUS  Perth           9th                                     Took over with 23 games remaining, in 10th
    2034/35  AUS  Perth           7th
    2035/36  AUS  Perth           5th/SF
    2036/37  AUS  Perth                                                   Left for Seoul after 12 games, in 2nd
    2037     KOR  Seoul           1st             SF        CL won  3rd
    2038/39  MEX  Chivas          6th/SF  3rd/ F  QF  won
    2039/40  MEX  Chivas         11th     2nd/QF            CL won
    2041     USA  New York        1st/won         R4
    2042     BRA  Internacional   5th     1st/won won                     Reached 1,000 games in management
    2043     BRA  Internacional           1st/won SF        CL QF         Left for Lanus after 34 national games, in 7th
    2044     ARG  Lanus           6th             R5        CS P2E
    2045     ARG  Lanus                           R5                      Left for Velez after 15 games, in 11th
    2045     ARG  Velez           4th/1st                   CS QF    F    Took over with 14 games remaining, in 1st
    2046     ARG  Velez           5th/4th         R7        CL won   won
    2047     ARG  Velez           1st             R7        CL QF
    2049/50  FRA  Monaco          4th             F   R4    EL GS         Sacked after final game of season
    2050/51  ITA  Inter           4th             F         EL R2
    2051/52  ITA  Inter                                                   Sacked after 16 games, in 14th
    2051/52  ITA  Lazio           8th                                     Took over with 21 games remaining, in 12th
    2052/53  ITA  Lazio                                                   Sacked after 5 games, in 17th
    2054/55  RSA  Wits           10th                 R1                  Took over with 12 games remaining, in 13th
    2055/56  RSA  Wits                            R1  R1    CL won   5th  Left for Valencia after 29 games, in 8th
    2056/57  ESP  Valencia        7th             R5        EL GS         Sacked after final game of season
    2057/58  FRA  Monaco          3rd             SF  F     EL won
    2058/59  FRA  Monaco          2nd             SF  R4    EL F
    2059/60  FRA  Monaco          1st             won QF    CL R1
    2060/61  ITA  Roma            3rd             R1        CL QF
    2061/62  ITA  Roma            3rd             R1        CL GS
    2062/63  ITA  Roma            3rd             F         EL F          Reached 2,000 games in management
    2063/64  ITA  Roma                            QF        CL QF         Resigned after 33 games, in 8th
    2064/65  ITA  Lazio          10th             R1
    2065/65  ITA  Lazio           9th             QF
    2066/67  ITA  Juventus        1st             won       CL R1
    2067/68  ESP  Valencia        2nd             QF        EL GS
    2068/69  ESP  Barcelona       1st             won       EL R1
    2069/70  ENG  Man City        7th             R3        EL won        Took over with 23 games remaining, in 10th
    2070/71  ENG  Man City        3rd             R4  R3    CL R1
    2071/72  ENG  Man City        1st             won R4    EL SF
    2072/73  POR  FCP             1st             won won   EL QF         Reached 2,500 games in management
    2073/74  ENG  Fulham         11th             R4                      Took over with 18 games remaining, in 17th
    2074/75  DEU  Hamburg         8th             F
    2075/76  DEU  Hamburg         6th             R3
    2076/77  DEU  Hamburg         4th             R3        EL GS
    2077/78  DEU  Hamburg         7th             R3        EL F
    2078/79  DEU  Hamburg         3rd             won
    2079/80  DEU  Hamburg         2nd             QF        EL QF
    2080/81  DEU  Hamburg         2nd             R2        CL SF
    2081/82  DEU  Hamburg         1st             R2        CL QF
    2082/83  ENG  Man City        2nd             R6  SF    EL F
    
    INTERNATIONAL CAREER
    
                            Rank         Cups
    Year  Nation           FIFA  NL   World  Cont. Conf. Other & Notes
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2032  Saudi Arabia      12                           Joined 11th Jul, 29th in FIFA Rankings
    2033  Saudi Arabia      25
    2034  Saudi Arabia      49         GS
    2035  Saudi Arabia                        won        Resigned 4th Feb, 38th in FIFA Rankings
    2036  Norway            61   C                       Joined 27th Jul, 54th in FIFA Rankings
    2037  Norway            57
    2038  Norway            44   B
    2039  Norway            39                           Resigned 14th Nov, 39th in FIFA Rankings
    2042  Tunisia           36                           Joined 20th Jul, 42nd in FIFA Rankings
    2043  Tunisia                             GS         Resigned 27th Jan, 37th in FIFA Rankings
    2047  South Africa      22                           Joined 17th Feb, 10th in FIFA Rankings
    2048  South Africa      19
    2049  South Africa                        won        Resigned 7th Feb, 19th in FIFA Rankings
    2049  USA               14                           Joined 1st Aug, 9th in FIFA Rankings
    2050  USA               19         GS
    2051  USA                                 won        Resigned 30th Jul, 31st in FIFA Rankings
    2052  Spain              9                           Joined 21st Jul, 7th in FIFA Rankings
    2053  Spain             10  won                      Reached 1,500 games in management
    2054  Spain              1         won               Left for Brazil 2nd Aug, 1st in FIFA Rankings
    2054  Brazil            14                           Joined 3rd Aug, 13th in FIFA Rankings
    2055  Brazil            15                GS
    2056  Brazil             2
    2057  Brazil             6
    2058  Brazil                       R1                Sacked 15th Jul, 6th in FIFA Rankings
    2058  Spain              8   A                       Joined 21st Jul, 8th in FIFA Rankings
    2059  Spain             18
    2060  Spain              2                won
    2061  Spain                 won                 won  Resigned 9th Jul, 2nd in FIFA Rankings
    2062  Brazil             6                           Joined 23rd Jul, 6th in FIFA Rankings
    2063  Brazil                              won        Resigned 7th Jul, 8th in FIFA Rankings
    
     
  11. Hey lads read through most of this in the past few days and you have all inspired me to give this a shot, first time doing one of these challenges so will see how I get on.

    My question is whats the best league and database set up to put in the game? really have no idea

    The below from vikeologist a few pages is pretty good on general approaches. Work out how you want to start your effort, and then set up leagues accordingly: I find it best not to have a massive database (as the save can be very long), and I've found I only need a few leagues active at a time now you're allowed to switch them around. But equally you can very specifically load all the leagues you'll be targeting, if that's what you'd like to do.

    Yes. You can add and subtract as you go. FM16 certainly seems to be stable enough to handle that.

    Historically (as much as you can use that word for something with a history of 1 year and half a week) there are 2 key approaches.

    The people who did this challenge at the start like me (old school) started in Asia or South African top division, and planned to finish in Europe.

    Then some people (new school) started in European lower divisions. This enabled them to have a higher reputation earlier in the game, and get international jobs (and major trophies) much earlier. (but only because they were very good at the game and were promoted often and early).

    There are other approaches, but I don't think they worked too well. OK, I'll tell you. Don't start in a tiny little place like Hong Kong or Indonesia, because you can win the league and still not be able to get a job worth a can of beans in nations such as China or South Korea.

    However, the best thing about this challenge is that there are different ways of going about it, and maybe someone will find a new way. For instance I don't think anybody has ever started in South America. I don't even have any idea what level jobs one could attain there.

  12. Incidentally, I don't think that we've ever discussed unlockables before. I hope I haven't upset anybody by just dictating that they are unacceptable (apart from the 2 mentioned above). If anyone has used any others already, just let us know, and then at least we'll know that you're doing the challenge without being able to be sacked or whatever. My bad for not covering it before, but i don't play Classic / Touch, (apart from when I'm checking out this kind of sissue for the challenge) so I'm sort of oblivious to this kind of thing.

    I always assumed this was the case, so haven't used any in my save: including International Management which in FM15 I did not unlock until I won a Manager of the Year award during my current challenge attempt. The wording in FM15 for International Management is: "National teams will be available to manage from the start of a new game". Checking my Steam achievements I unlocked this unlockable on 1st May, after my 2nd Ultimate Challenge attempt began. I've not used it and I was already able to become an international manager within a game, consistent with the wording.

    This of course doesn't mean that it hasn't been changed in FM16...

  13. Congratulations Normandy what an achievement! You'll get that Champions League next season!

    Thanks buddy! :)

    I am optimistic that we can have a very good crack at the CL next season. I am willing to finish 2nd or 3rd in the Bundesliga to achieve it, so not having split priorities will surely help. Then we just need the bit of luck you need in knockout competitions from time to time.

  14. Season 2081/82 - Hamburg



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    League | Schedule Part 1, Part 2 & Part 3

    Analysts had us pegged as the highest spenders going into the 81/82 season, and although we did splash a ludicrous £40m on a new young German winger, we only had a net spend of £21m and that was reduced to £6m when we picked up a mid-season payment from Manchester United for the striker they bought from us a few years back making his 50th outing, so really this campaign was built the way I'd done the last few: selling players for a good fees and replacing them with younger players, ideally homegrown. New backup striker Ugur Gurbuz was particularly key, as Herrmann was again injured, this time on international duty, and this time we had some explosive firepower in reserve.

    And boy what a campaign it was: a superb run to the Quarter Finals of the Champions League was finally halted by Manchester United (although we did overcome our "English curse" somewhat by superbly getting revenge over Chelsea in the Group Stage, winning 6-1 in one of the games and knocking them into the Europa League by finishing above them) to ensure the challenge is not yet finished, but things went rather better on the domestic front.

    I'd been scared that we may wait years for Bayern to have a "down" season, but it came much quicker than expected. They drew the opening game, and we raced out of the traps with a big run of consecutive wins. We slowed slightly, and by the Christmas break were only just clear of Bayern and other challenger Dortmund despite losing just one game, but in the second half of the campaign our consistency and Bayern's fixture congestion (I suspect brought on by the World Club Championship?) were sufficient to see us gradually outpace them. In the end, we won the league anti-climatically, stunned 6-3 away to a strong Schalke side in the penultimate game but crowned Bundesliga winners by results elsewhere. At least there was one game left to celebrate with our fans, and we duly beat Koln to do just that.

    The tenth and final league title I've worked so hard for years (only in-game, although it does feel it's taken a while) to get is finally mine. Now we just need to win Europe's biggest prize. My first instinct is to do this with Hamburg: I've a great team and I'm sure I'll be allowed a good wedge of the £96m bank balance to further strengthen, but as vikeologist somewhat forecast in his latest comment on my progress, it'll be interesting to see if there is an opportunity to jump straight into a Paris Saint-Germain or a Bayern who may be more qualified to win it right away.

    Challenge Progress

    Club

    10/10 top domestic leagues (ARG, DEU, ENG, ESP, FRA, IND, ITA, KOR, POR, USA)

    11/10 domestic cups (AUS, BRA, DEU, ENG, ESP, FRA, IND, ITA, KOR, MEX, POR)

    4/5 club continental championships (Africa, Asia, N.Am., S.Am.)

    1/1 club world championship

    International

    5/5 continental tournaments (Africa, Asia, Europe, N.Am., S.Am.)

    2/2 world tournaments (WC, Confed.)

    Seasons

    CLUB CAREER
                                   Leagues        Cups
    Season        Club           1st      2nd    1st  2nd   Cont.   CWC   Other & Notes
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2014/15  RSA  Ajax CT        12th                                     Took over with 3 games remaining, in 15th
    2015/16  RSA  Ajax CT                         R2   R1                 Sacked after 16 games, in 16th
    2016/17  AUS  Wanderers       6th             QF
    2017/18  AUS  Wanderers                       won                     Sacked after 22 games, in 10th
    2018/19  IND  Dempo                           GS                      Sacked after 19 games, in 11th
    2019/20  IND  Bengaluru       6th             SF   F
    2020/21  IND  Bengaluru       2nd             won  F
    2021/22  IND  Bengaluru       1st             GS   won  CC R2
    2022/23  IND  Bengaluru       2nd             won  F    CL Q3E
    2023/24  IND  Bengaluru                                 CC QF         Resigned after CC QF defeat/before league season
    2024     KOR  Jeju            5th             SF
    2025     KOR  Jeju            8th             SF
    2026     KOR  Jeju            8th             QF
    2027     KOR  Jeju                            QF                      Left for Pohang after 32 games, in 7th
    2027     KOR  Pohang          5th             won                     Took over with 6 games remaining, in 5th
    2028     KOR  Pohang                                    CL GS         Sacked after 16 games, in 5th
    2028     KOR  Jeonbuk         5th             SF                      Took over with 20 games remaining, in 7th
    2029     KOR  Jeonbuk                         R4                      Sacked after 35 games, in 7th
    2030     KOR  Jeju                                                    Left for Wellington after 16 games, in 4th
    2030/31  AUS  Wellington     10th
    2031/32  AUS  Wellington     10th
    2032/33  AUS  Wellington      7th
    2033/34  AUS  Wellington                                              Left for Perth after 4 games, in 6th
    2033/34  AUS  Perth           9th                                     Took over with 23 games remaining, in 10th
    2034/35  AUS  Perth           7th
    2035/36  AUS  Perth           5th/SF
    2036/37  AUS  Perth                                                   Left for Seoul after 12 games, in 2nd
    2037     KOR  Seoul           1st             SF        CL won  3rd
    2038/39  MEX  Chivas          6th/SF  3rd/ F  QF  won
    2039/40  MEX  Chivas         11th     2nd/QF            CL won
    2041     USA  New York        1st/won         R4
    2042     BRA  Internacional   5th     1st/won won                     Reached 1,000 games in management
    2043     BRA  Internacional           1st/won SF        CL QF         Left for Lanus after 34 national games, in 7th
    2044     ARG  Lanus           6th             R5        CS P2E
    2045     ARG  Lanus                           R5                      Left for Velez after 15 games, in 11th
    2045     ARG  Velez           4th/1st                   CS QF    F    Took over with 14 games remaining, in 1st
    2046     ARG  Velez           5th/4th         R7        CL won   won
    2047     ARG  Velez           1st             R7        CL QF
    2049/50  FRA  Monaco          4th             F   R4    EL GS         Sacked after final game of season
    2050/51  ITA  Inter           4th             F         EL R2
    2051/52  ITA  Inter                                                   Sacked after 16 games, in 14th
    2051/52  ITA  Lazio           8th                                     Took over with 21 games remaining, in 12th
    2052/53  ITA  Lazio                                                   Sacked after 5 games, in 17th
    2054/55  RSA  Wits           10th                 R1                  Took over with 12 games remaining, in 13th
    2055/56  RSA  Wits                            R1  R1    CL won   5th  Left for Valencia after 29 games, in 8th
    2056/57  ESP  Valencia        7th             R5        EL GS         Sacked after final game of season
    2057/58  FRA  Monaco          3rd             SF  F     EL won
    2058/59  FRA  Monaco          2nd             SF  R4    EL F
    2059/60  FRA  Monaco          1st             won QF    CL R1
    2060/61  ITA  Roma            3rd             R1        CL QF
    2061/62  ITA  Roma            3rd             R1        CL GS
    2062/63  ITA  Roma            3rd             F         EL F          Reached 2,000 games in management
    2063/64  ITA  Roma                            QF        CL QF         Resigned after 33 games, in 8th
    2064/65  ITA  Lazio          10th             R1
    2065/65  ITA  Lazio           9th             QF
    2066/67  ITA  Juventus        1st             won       CL R1
    2067/68  ESP  Valencia        2nd             QF        EL GS
    2068/69  ESP  Barcelona       1st             won       EL R1
    2069/70  ENG  Man City        7th             R3        EL won        Took over with 23 games remaining, in 10th
    2070/71  ENG  Man City        3rd             R4  R3    CL R1
    2071/72  ENG  Man City        1st             won R4    EL SF
    2072/73  POR  FCP             1st             won won   EL QF         Reached 2,500 games in management
    2073/74  ENG  Fulham         11th             R4                      Took over with 18 games remaining, in 17th
    2074/75  DEU  Hamburg         8th             F
    2075/76  DEU  Hamburg         6th             R3
    2076/77  DEU  Hamburg         4th             R3        EL GS
    2077/78  DEU  Hamburg         7th             R3        EL F
    2078/79  DEU  Hamburg         3rd             won
    2079/80  DEU  Hamburg         2nd             QF        EL QF
    2080/81  DEU  Hamburg         2nd             R2        CL SF
    2081/82  DEU  Hamburg         1st             R2        CL QF
    
    
    INTERNATIONAL CAREER
    
                            Rank         Cups
    Year  Nation           FIFA  NL   World  Cont. Conf. Other & Notes
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2032  Saudi Arabia      12                           Joined 11th Jul, 29th in FIFA Rankings
    2033  Saudi Arabia      25
    2034  Saudi Arabia      49         GS
    2035  Saudi Arabia                        won        Resigned 4th Feb, 38th in FIFA Rankings
    2036  Norway            61   C                       Joined 27th Jul, 54th in FIFA Rankings
    2037  Norway            57
    2038  Norway            44   B
    2039  Norway            39                           Resigned 14th Nov, 39th in FIFA Rankings
    2042  Tunisia           36                           Joined 20th Jul, 42nd in FIFA Rankings
    2043  Tunisia                             GS         Resigned 27th Jan, 37th in FIFA Rankings
    2047  South Africa      22                           Joined 17th Feb, 10th in FIFA Rankings
    2048  South Africa      19
    2049  South Africa                        won        Resigned 7th Feb, 19th in FIFA Rankings
    2049  USA               14                           Joined 1st Aug, 9th in FIFA Rankings
    2050  USA               19         GS
    2051  USA                                 won        Resigned 30th Jul, 31st in FIFA Rankings
    2052  Spain              9                           Joined 21st Jul, 7th in FIFA Rankings
    2053  Spain             10  won                      Reached 1,500 games in management
    2054  Spain              1         won               Left for Brazil 2nd Aug, 1st in FIFA Rankings
    2054  Brazil            14                           Joined 3rd Aug, 13th in FIFA Rankings
    2055  Brazil            15                GS
    2056  Brazil             2
    2057  Brazil             6
    2058  Brazil                       R1                Sacked 15th Jul, 6th in FIFA Rankings
    2058  Spain              8   A                       Joined 21st Jul, 8th in FIFA Rankings
    2059  Spain             18
    2060  Spain              2                won
    2061  Spain                 won                 won  Resigned 9th Jul, 2nd in FIFA Rankings
    2062  Brazil             6                           Joined 23rd Jul, 6th in FIFA Rankings
    2063  Brazil                              won        Resigned 7th Jul, 8th in FIFA Rankings
    
     
  15. Season 2080/81 - Hamburg



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    League | Schedule Part 1, Part 2 & Part 3

    This was one of the most fun seasons I have managed. That it's not my last will tell you that it didn't quite live up to the potential, but we have a fantastic squad that played some scintillating football, and I am closer to glory than I have been with Hamburg thus far.

    Another summer of astute transfer business done, we were this year without a shadow of a doubt the second-best team in Germany. The season when Dortmund won after I turned them down remains frustrating: that was a big opportunity for me not just because of Dortmund's success that year with a squad I could have led, but because FC Bayern was on a rare "down year": the sort of year we now eagerly await having clearly established ourselves as the best of the rest.

    As it became increasingly clear that we wouldn't be able to outpace the imperious Bavarians, I shifted our focus to the Champions League (admittedly costing us a few more defeats, and making our second place a little less clear, but I'm certain the margins are small). A superb 3-0 upset of AC Milan on matchday six had seen us and Swansea as the unlikely survivors of our group, and with our first team stars now given a break ahead of the biggest European games, we brilliantly thrashed my former team AS Monaco in the round of 16 before dispatching reigning European champions Paris Saint-Germain in the Quarter Final. Chelsea finally ended our fairytale run: but had star striker Gino Herrmann not missed the second leg, I'm sure we'd have grabbed a second away goal to reach the Final of Europe's biggest competition.

    We continue to strengthen: one of my squad players will retire and veteran winger Miljan Jeremic will move to Burnley on a free transfer, but we have replacements for both lined up already. There is interest in several of our players, but we've shown a great ability to replace them with better, not least at striker this year where Herrmann proved an incredible half-price replacement for Neil Lacey when the latter moved to Manchester United for a fee that will eventually reach £30m. Our UEFA coefficient should be much improved by the European run this year, and we hope for more luck in key moments in that competition and for a slight slump in Bayern's form which finally allow us to make the final step up domestically.

    The only question is, with my manager due to turn eighty-eight next year, will I get this done before my 90th birthday?

    Challenge Progress

    Club

    9/10 top domestic leagues (ARG, ENG, ESP, FRA, IND, ITA, KOR, POR, USA)

    11/10 domestic cups (AUS, BRA, DEU, ENG, ESP, FRA, IND, ITA, KOR, MEX, POR)

    4/5 club continental championships (Africa, Asia, N.Am., S.Am.)

    1/1 club world championship

    International

    5/5 continental tournaments (Africa, Asia, Europe, N.Am., S.Am.)

    2/2 world tournaments (WC, Confed.)

    Seasons

    CLUB CAREER
                                   Leagues        Cups
    Season        Club           1st      2nd    1st  2nd   Cont.   CWC   Other & Notes
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2014/15  RSA  Ajax CT        12th                                     Took over with 3 games remaining, in 15th
    2015/16  RSA  Ajax CT                         R2   R1                 Sacked after 16 games, in 16th
    2016/17  AUS  Wanderers       6th             QF
    2017/18  AUS  Wanderers                       won                     Sacked after 22 games, in 10th
    2018/19  IND  Dempo                           GS                      Sacked after 19 games, in 11th
    2019/20  IND  Bengaluru       6th             SF   F
    2020/21  IND  Bengaluru       2nd             won  F
    2021/22  IND  Bengaluru       1st             GS   won  CC R2
    2022/23  IND  Bengaluru       2nd             won  F    CL Q3E
    2023/24  IND  Bengaluru                                 CC QF         Resigned after CC QF defeat/before league season
    2024     KOR  Jeju            5th             SF
    2025     KOR  Jeju            8th             SF
    2026     KOR  Jeju            8th             QF
    2027     KOR  Jeju                            QF                      Left for Pohang after 32 games, in 7th
    2027     KOR  Pohang          5th             won                     Took over with 6 games remaining, in 5th
    2028     KOR  Pohang                                    CL GS         Sacked after 16 games, in 5th
    2028     KOR  Jeonbuk         5th             SF                      Took over with 20 games remaining, in 7th
    2029     KOR  Jeonbuk                         R4                      Sacked after 35 games, in 7th
    2030     KOR  Jeju                                                    Left for Wellington after 16 games, in 4th
    2030/31  AUS  Wellington     10th
    2031/32  AUS  Wellington     10th
    2032/33  AUS  Wellington      7th
    2033/34  AUS  Wellington                                              Left for Perth after 4 games, in 6th
    2033/34  AUS  Perth           9th                                     Took over with 23 games remaining, in 10th
    2034/35  AUS  Perth           7th
    2035/36  AUS  Perth           5th/SF
    2036/37  AUS  Perth                                                   Left for Seoul after 12 games, in 2nd
    2037     KOR  Seoul           1st             SF        CL won  3rd
    2038/39  MEX  Chivas          6th/SF  3rd/ F  QF  won
    2039/40  MEX  Chivas         11th     2nd/QF            CL won
    2041     USA  New York        1st/won         R4
    2042     BRA  Internacional   5th     1st/won won                     Reached 1,000 games in management
    2043     BRA  Internacional           1st/won SF        CL QF         Left for Lanus after 34 national games, in 7th
    2044     ARG  Lanus           6th             R5        CS P2E
    2045     ARG  Lanus                           R5                      Left for Velez after 15 games, in 11th
    2045     ARG  Velez           4th/1st                   CS QF    F    Took over with 14 games remaining, in 1st
    2046     ARG  Velez           5th/4th         R7        CL won   won
    2047     ARG  Velez           1st             R7        CL QF
    2049/50  FRA  Monaco          4th             F   R4    EL GS         Sacked after final game of season
    2050/51  ITA  Inter           4th             F         EL R2
    2051/52  ITA  Inter                                                   Sacked after 16 games, in 14th
    2051/52  ITA  Lazio           8th                                     Took over with 21 games remaining, in 12th
    2052/53  ITA  Lazio                                                   Sacked after 5 games, in 17th
    2054/55  RSA  Wits           10th                 R1                  Took over with 12 games remaining, in 13th
    2055/56  RSA  Wits                            R1  R1    CL won   5th  Left for Valencia after 29 games, in 8th
    2056/57  ESP  Valencia        7th             R5        EL GS         Sacked after final game of season
    2057/58  FRA  Monaco          3rd             SF  F     EL won
    2058/59  FRA  Monaco          2nd             SF  R4    EL F
    2059/60  FRA  Monaco          1st             won QF    CL R1
    2060/61  ITA  Roma            3rd             R1        CL QF
    2061/62  ITA  Roma            3rd             R1        CL GS
    2062/63  ITA  Roma            3rd             F         EL F          Reached 2,000 games in management
    2063/64  ITA  Roma                            QF        CL QF         Resigned after 33 games, in 8th
    2064/65  ITA  Lazio          10th             R1
    2065/65  ITA  Lazio           9th             QF
    2066/67  ITA  Juventus        1st             won       CL R1
    2067/68  ESP  Valencia        2nd             QF        EL GS
    2068/69  ESP  Barcelona       1st             won       EL R1
    2069/70  ENG  Man City        7th             R3        EL won        Took over with 23 games remaining, in 10th
    2070/71  ENG  Man City        3rd             R4  R3    CL R1
    2071/72  ENG  Man City        1st             won R4    EL SF
    2072/73  POR  FCP             1st             won won   EL QF         Reached 2,500 games in management
    2073/74  ENG  Fulham         11th             R4                      Took over with 18 games remaining, in 17th
    2074/75  DEU  Hamburg         8th             F
    2075/76  DEU  Hamburg         6th             R3
    2076/77  DEU  Hamburg         4th             R3        EL GS
    2077/78  DEU  Hamburg         7th             R3        EL F
    2078/79  DEU  Hamburg         3rd             won
    2079/80  DEU  Hamburg         2nd             QF        EL QF
    2080/81  DEU  Hamburg         2nd             R2        CL SF
    
    INTERNATIONAL CAREER
    
                            Rank         Cups
    Year  Nation           FIFA  NL   World  Cont. Conf. Other & Notes
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2032  Saudi Arabia      12                           Joined 11th Jul, 29th in FIFA Rankings
    2033  Saudi Arabia      25
    2034  Saudi Arabia      49         GS
    2035  Saudi Arabia                        won        Resigned 4th Feb, 38th in FIFA Rankings
    2036  Norway            61   C                       Joined 27th Jul, 54th in FIFA Rankings
    2037  Norway            57
    2038  Norway            44   B
    2039  Norway            39                           Resigned 14th Nov, 39th in FIFA Rankings
    2042  Tunisia           36                           Joined 20th Jul, 42nd in FIFA Rankings
    2043  Tunisia                             GS         Resigned 27th Jan, 37th in FIFA Rankings
    2047  South Africa      22                           Joined 17th Feb, 10th in FIFA Rankings
    2048  South Africa      19
    2049  South Africa                        won        Resigned 7th Feb, 19th in FIFA Rankings
    2049  USA               14                           Joined 1st Aug, 9th in FIFA Rankings
    2050  USA               19         GS
    2051  USA                                 won        Resigned 30th Jul, 31st in FIFA Rankings
    2052  Spain              9                           Joined 21st Jul, 7th in FIFA Rankings
    2053  Spain             10  won                      Reached 1,500 games in management
    2054  Spain              1         won               Left for Brazil 2nd Aug, 1st in FIFA Rankings
    2054  Brazil            14                           Joined 3rd Aug, 13th in FIFA Rankings
    2055  Brazil            15                GS
    2056  Brazil             2
    2057  Brazil             6
    2058  Brazil                       R1                Sacked 15th Jul, 6th in FIFA Rankings
    2058  Spain              8   A                       Joined 21st Jul, 8th in FIFA Rankings
    2059  Spain             18
    2060  Spain              2                won
    2061  Spain                 won                 won  Resigned 9th Jul, 2nd in FIFA Rankings
    2062  Brazil             6                           Joined 23rd Jul, 6th in FIFA Rankings
    2063  Brazil                              won        Resigned 7th Jul, 8th in FIFA Rankings
    
     
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