[How to force players to build up on central area?]

I made these adjustments:

- double pivot composed by Regista & Segundo Volante
- Advanced playmaker in the AM position
- IWB in support 
- very narrow width
- focus play through the middle

 

The build up seems to be much better, passes direction is now central. The only problem is that Wingers are too narrow now, whilst as I said I would like them very wide to stretch the play.
What if I remove the focus play? As far as I know the focus play through the middle increase the passes into the center (good) but also attract players to the centre of the pitch (bad)

What do you think?

[How to force players to build up on central area?]

12 minuti fa, Cloud9 ha scritto:

Don't play with a Mezzala and wingers? 

You don't really have any central players geared to build up play. The DM is going to hold the IWB is going to hold and the AM(a) is going to stay high. Get some supporting roles in there, the only players capable of transitioning the ball are wide players atm. 

High Tempo, Mid block w/ counter attack isn't really focused around build up play, but quick/direct transitions.

Without Mezzala and Wingers than I will not attack as I want. 
I want the the very spreaded in creation phase.
I made some adjustments, but im not sure how tempo could influences the direction of the progression 

[How to force players to build up on central area?]

16 minuti fa, stopazricky ha scritto:

Your number 8 is clearly marked tight by your opponent's number 17. Thank goodness your centre-back doesn't pass the ball to him!

I don't mean I want the CB to pass to 8 at the same moment of the screenshot  but in general 

[How to force players to build up on central area?]

I would like my players to go through the center (purple lines) but they constantly go wide (green line).
Any suggestions?

 

[Anyone knows how to fill this position?]

19 ore fa, Cloud9 ha scritto:

Enganche is a pretty static role.

I tried it but the player still fill the left halfspaces.

[Anyone knows how to fill this position?]

I'm struggling to fill the position in the screenshot. I would like a player staying behind (same vertical line) the striker.

I tried all the positions in AMC and MC, but they always move into the half spaces.

Any suggestions?

[FM21 - Changes that affect your match day experience]

Il 15/11/2020 in 14:01 , Rashidi ha scritto:

Heads up:

Focus play is quite important to understand on FM21 because it helps us now create overloads. Along with attacking width these two can play prominent roles in build up.

There are some things to consider: Focus play can be changed from time to time in your own tactic. For example: If you are playing against a team stacking its middle with defensive midfielders  you might find yourself struggling to break them down with a focus middle instruction. It's times like this where it pays to understand how this happens.

Focus tells your team to focus its passing in that general direction, it can also affect the positioning of some of your players encouraging them to support the focus. If this happens against a team defending narrow you could end up playing in a very congested area. While no one says this can't be done, you should think of perhaps doing something else. 

You could focus play down the flanks, stretch the defence and use a strong target in the middle to create some problems for the defending team. 

Thinking of how you can shift your overload can sometimes be another effective strategy at unlocking sides. 

Hey Rashidi, how would you set Width and Focus Play if your game style is to stretch the pitch as much as possible with your wingers in order to create space to attack in central areas?
I would logically go with Wide width + focus through the middle, but then my wingers will move to the center while I want them very wide.

What about Very narrow + Focus on the flanks?

 

[How to choose the best Winger role?]

4 minuti fa, kingjericho ha scritto:

• more focus on risky actions (through balls, 1v1, shots) - attack
• more focus on creating chances for teammates - support

 

If this is how the mentality is reflected in the game, it narrows my options to:

Midfielder line - Invert Winger /Attack:
Midfielder line - Wide Midfielder /Attack: 

[How to choose the best Winger role?]

Hi, 

I am struggling in choosing the best role for my wingers. The interpretation of the role would similar to Mitoma (Brighton) or Robben and Ribery with Guardiola, so he has to stay really wide, hugging the touchline, and whit the ball on his feet seeking for 1vs1 . Whereas, without the ball, I want him involved defensively involved.

So the active instructions must be:
- Stay wide
- Dribble more
- Cut inside with the ball

I narrowed the options to these two roles: Inverted Winger and Wide Midfielder. 
And the possible combinations of duties/roles are the following:

Trequartista line - Inverted Winger /Attack:  Is not helping when my team is not in possession
Trequartista line - Inverted Winger /Support:
Midfielder line - Invert Winger /Attack:
Midfielder line - Inverted Winger /Support:
Midfielder line - Wide Midfielder /Attack: 
Midfielder line - Wide Midfielder /Support:

I tried all the other roles/duties and they look pretty similar in both defensive and attacking. Should I pick a random one or there are some hidden settings or role concept that I should consider in the choice?

 

[Cross Engagement setting explanation]

Hi everyone,

I am trying to understand the new setting "Cross engagement" but for how it is explained in the game it doesn't make any sense to me.

"Stop crosses asks the team to seek to avoid defending crosses...force the opposition to find another way to attack"
"Invite crosses asks the team to allow crosses to defend in situations they would be confident of being successful in"

Now, while Stop crosses makes sense and it's the way to defend a threat in the wide areas, what happens if i choose Invite crosses ?
Will my defenders let the opposing winger cross because sure that the cross will not be dangerous?

Fullback: "hey Mezzala, help me to close him down"
Mezzala "naaa, that's fine, let him go, they are not dangerous into the box"
Fullback "ah, ok"

Honestly, it's not something we see in real football, defenders always try to close down the opponent, whatever it takes. noone invite opponent to cross.

And what if you don't select any option? they will close down the opponent or not?

 

 

[Use Overlap & Underlap together?]

Hi everyone,

I am using a 4-3-3. In possession, i want my fullback to overlap and attack the wide areas WHILE  the mezzala underlap and run inside.

Which setting should I use?  Overlap or Underlap?

 

[High pressing marking]

Hi everyone,

are there any instructions to set the high pressing marking of the offensive line when the team is not in possession? 

I would like to have Guedes in the same position of the #7 but on the other flank. They have same roles instructions as well as opponent instructions.

 

[Are player roles different from each other?]

yep i was thinking about hidden instructions. I know some roles have it, like the 2 roles you mentioned, would be nice to have a complete list of those roles with the specific movements  

[Are player roles different from each other?]

Hi everyone,

are there any differences between roles with the same Instructions in terms of movements, like the example below?

 

 

[FM 23 - Defensive shape vs Defensive line]

4 ore fa, Jack Sarahs ha scritto:

Hi @desmond91Hopefully this helps!


The best way to think of the two options is like this.

 

Defensive line in defensive shape = How high you want your defensive line to be when out of possession?

Defensive line as an team instruction Drop off more / Step up more = How do you want your defensive line to behave?

 

For example if you want to engage high & press high but you have a slower back 4, you may want them to position higher to stay close to the rest of the team and stay compact. But also because they aren't the fastest, the moment the press is beaten or an opposing player has time on the ball with no pressure on it you may want them to start to drop to prevent being beaten in behind.

 

Now in FM23 you can create this by selecting your defensive line to be higher in the team defensive shape to help stay compact and support the high press your team is employing, but now as a behavior in the defensive line team instruction you can select them to " drop off more" to prevent the obvious issue of a long pass in behind,

 

To be clear It's not an additional instruction to make the defensive line to just go higher or lower then the initial selection in team shape. 
 

Hopefully this helps everyone!

So in a nutshell it's not about the position of the defensive line but about how it reacts to long pass behind it.

Got it, thank you!

[FM 23 - Defensive shape vs Defensive line]

1 ora fa, JIPI1 ha scritto:

Defensive line in the shape determines how high/deep the D-line positions itself.

Defensive line option determines how the D-line behaves when the opposition is attacking you (eg. step up and be proactive in recovering the ball versus being reactive and holding the position to force the opponent to a mistake or turnover).

This is my interpretation. Thoughts?

imho but options refer on when the opposition has the ball, confirmed by the fact that are part of the NON POSSESSION section.

[FM 23 - Defensive shape vs Defensive line]

Hi everyone,

I'm wondering if the Defensive line option (step up-drop off more) has a different purpose than just setting low or high the defensive line bar in the Defensive shape option.
Does it just move more down up or down the defensive line bar in the defensive shape setting?

Seems logic but I am wondering if there is something else hidden, because otherwise makes non-sense.
It's like if next to the slider of Tempo you can select "Increase tempo" or "decrease tempo". Why add that option if there is already a slider for that purpose?

 

[Wingback and default instructions]

I play a lot the IWBs. In possession they move inside the pitch, becoming a kind of CMs. They don't stay wider and cut into the middle as I wish 

Thanks anyway guys!

8 minuti fa, Johnny Ace ha scritto:

Yeah, but they might still be pretty wide, worth a try, I think it's about as good as you'll get 

[Wingback and default instructions]

2 minuti fa, Johnny Ace ha scritto:

I missed the 3-5-2 bit, Team Instructions, maximum Width with IWBs

IWB sit narrow in possession, even with max width

[Wingback and default instructions]

14 minuti fa, Johnny Ace ha scritto:

You can with a Fullback, give that a try 

I just tried, but he is not enough higher in the pitch :/

 

[Wingback and default instructions]

3 minuti fa, JIPI1 ha scritto:

Try using the automatic duty on the wingback player role and check if it's possible then.

Not possibile either

[Wingback and default instructions]

Hi everyone,

I would like my wingbacks - in my 3-5-2 tactic - to stay really wide WITHOUT the ball to stretch the opposition shape and then WITH the ball cut inside the pitch.

To translate this instructions on FM, I can easily position him wider with the option Stay Wider but when he has the ball, looking at the instructions, all the roles in the has the active instruction RUN WIDE WITH BALL in opposition to CUT INSIDE WITH BALL (not selectable). So it's not possible to replicate what i would like to do.

Any workaround? Is possible to cancel the default instruction somehow? Or, does the player instruction cut inside with the ball overwrite the role instruction run wide with the ball?

 

[Why my wide centre-back don't overlap?]

Hi guys,

Am I the only one that is seeing an huge difference in terms of overlap of the WCB attack duty since the full release of the game?
In the beta version the overlaps were much more frequently and deep, now I don't see any.

Something is changed?

[CB in back 3 tactics are too defensive]

or add instruction:

- go further forward

[CB in back 3 tactics are too defensive]

Latina - Roma.pkm

In real football, CBS and CBR helps the team in offensive phase by keeping possession and also overlap sometimes.

You can see in the PKM that even with an offensive team instructions, and a "stopper" individual instruction, they sit back and don't help the team while in possession.

 

Solution:
- Adding support mentality for CBS/R
- Adding libero(renaming) role for CBS/R