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  1. A couple of questions before I consider purchasing: Whats the UI like this year? Couldn't stand it last year and it really put me off playing. How does the scouting work this time? Similar to last year with the buying packages and all that?
  2. I would agree with Dagenham Dave that there is a really good game hiding beneath the surface but unfortunately it's hidden beneath a lot of stuff that just makes it a real chore to play. The matches really, really drag with the duffness of the UI, the weird format of going through a game, and odd lags where nothing appears to be happening. The whole thing makes actually playing through a match an oddly disconnecting experience with me in turns waiting in boredom, cursing at the screen in frustration, and generally feeling like I'm not really that involved.
  3. Ha ha! Just checked and you are quite right. The fact I only just spotted it does suggest two things though: 1). I'm an idiot, 2). Its too small a tab and easily missed (by idiots). No idea why it only shows one formation at a time though and not both teams, the formation box is tiny.
  4. The screen in-between highlights which has one team list on one side of the screen and one on the other with a central match info column with a pitch showing incidents, some stats, and a focus of attacks pitch. I've tried it windowed and full screen and maybe it is a matter of resolution but on that screen there is nothing other than the players lists to gauge what the formation is.
  5. This pre-match screen always raises a laugh with me, I have rarely seen anything so amateurish in a game released by a large studio; the players faces combined with the silhouettes remind me of one of those whack a mole things you see at the seaside. Much worse, if not quite as amateurish to look at, is the none highlights in match screen. You can't view your player attributes with the 'i' icon as for some reason there is no 'i' icon on this screen. You can't see what formation your opposition may have changed to because that information isn't available on this screen. Customization? Not a chance. That pitch with the 'events' and a link to the highlights? Most of the time it just has a couple of players names with no clue given as to what the highlight is. Those tiny icons to quickly change tactics, formation, mentality etc? I don't know what half of them do until I hover over them: just tell me WITH WORDS. So many oddly constructed things, the weak UI in scouting ( those hundreds of payers you have to click though discarding and the like don't even show the player attributes!), the charges on scouting which make my preferred LLM pointless, the worsened player/staff search screens, and plenty more. There is a good game in there I'm sure but it is currently enormously frustrating and I can't think of a worse thing for a game to be.
  6. Thanks Cougar2010, very helpful. This what I was getting at before: if I pay my scouts a wage and they are the only people I have scouting for me the extra cost for each instance of scouting a player seems, as you note, inordinately large. In reality if my scout John Smith scouted a player from a team ten minutes down the road and then an extra expense of £500+ came in you would think someone was fiddling something somewhere or grossly incompetent. After reading this thread I had a quick look at my first test game in the conference north (to get used to the new features before starting a new game when the game is released proper) and I had spent 10 grand in a month on scouting without realising every player I scouted was costing me a bomb. If I did that any further the club would be bankrupt in no time. I would say in the real world there is a wide difference in how different clubs go about things. The club I support in recent years seemed to sign a lot of player linked with one agent, then moved on, after a managerial change, to signing players using our new head of recruitment's own proprietary scouting system, and now seem to have gone back to a more traditional approach which is having a scout who works for the club who has a network of guys who scout for minimum payment on an as needed basis (and likely for multiple teams at the same time). I applaud the attempt in the game to show some of this new reality but the execution is somewhat lacking.
  7. Apologies, but scouting seems such a strange confusing mess we (well, me) may be at cross purposes. You were talking about costs and I would say the costs quoted in this thread are way out of whack with reality. Perhaps you can confirm this: if I don't have a package (LLM, can't afford) is it £586 per scouted player?
  8. Not so realistic for football, a sport many, many people want to be involved in. A friends nephew scouts for a league one club part time and he is paid minimum wage and travel expenses.
  9. I know but if you click on tactics from the match you get the pitch view (the horizontal pitch with the formation of your players). This screen contains very little useful information. The list view contains more info but not the pitch and formation. If you want both you have to click on tactics in the top right and you are taken to a screen which contains both sets of information. There is no reason this isn't the default tactics screen (this screen also has the highlight for positions a player can play lacking from the other screens)
  10. You can but for some unfathomable reason it isn't the default screen, you have to click the little icon for it at the top right of the tactics pitch horizontal formation view. The tactics screen which features the pitch and list views should be the only screen, the separate ones are completely pointless. And the little quick sub/ mentality etc change icons would be much improved with a wild new idea: words to tell you what they are. I don't know what a circle with little dots means but I can read.
  11. Has the little scouting icon for when you are, unsurprisingly, scouting a player disappeared for all players you have asked to be scouted? I ask for a player to be scouted and on the players tab in the scouting section the only way I know if a player is being scouted is looking at them individually. Does it now only appear once the actual scouting has taken place? This post was bought to you by the words scouting and scouted. Also, I agree with a lot of the post above about the UI but without as much in the way of histrionics. I feel that about half the screens in the game could be lost if the information and interface was amalgamated into a more user friendly design. Never have there appeared to be more screens where I have to click to another screen to adjust what I want and then refer back to the previous screen but without the info from the screen I was just on being shown. It's quite disheartening and really makes playing the game a drag
  12. On to a match now and the half time changing of tactics is a chore. The tactics screen with the pitch and player positions and the list of players and the roles they can play is available but you have to click on tactics and then find and click on the tiny tactics box (top rightish with a square and three dots) to get to it. This should be the default screen as it is the only one with all the info you need on it, other wise the info you want is split in two. An odd choice. Also, whereas previously the pre-match went through set up, opposition, team talk etc now setting up opposition instructions seems to be something I have to go and find. Maybe I'm wrong, it is only my first match and perhaps I skipped something but that was how it seemed. Again, an odd choice.
  13. Only just downloaded and not got very far at all yet but a few things have immediately leapt out at me: The design a manager feature is as badly implemented as last year. I just want to stick a silly photo in of me and not bother with the process of designing myself. Anyone of 5 feet 10 over eleven stone has a paunch like someone with a horrific disease How do I look at the team and players before I choose? Presumably there somewhere but I couldn't immediately find it When you hover over the ‘i’ on a player the fade to black for the background is needlessly off-putting On the search player/staff screen you now click on new search or edit search. Once you go back to the screen showing the results and you can no longer see what you have chosen or edit your choices on the result screen itself. Previously, for example, you would see your search parameters and the results below. You could then change them without clicking on to another screen. Hugely irritating
  14. Played a few games now in the conference and one thing that stands out is the large number of corners that are immediately hoofed out of play, virtually from the moment they leave the players boot.
  15. Changing my general resolution has worked! Hurrah! Many thanks for your help, your patience has been admirable!
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