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  1. Finally decided to attempt to understand and try the new training. A quick question for anyone who may be able to help, I have set up a few different schedules that I want to employ which basically are one a defensive schedule and the other an attacking schedule. is there any way I can separate players into 2 schedules in a week or is it fixed that you choose a schedule for a week and everyone in the squad follows that schedule thankyou
  2. Hi Im looking for my final save of this series having done a few lower league and random leagues such as Korea and Australia etc. After reading peoples stories of youth saves etc with Ajax and watching Ajax in Europe this season I have decided to go along that sort of route with an idea of trying to implement a total football style throughout the save. My question tho is I am conflicted over 3 teams to choose from either Ajax, Benfica or Leverkusen. I’m not sure if I could find longevity with Ajax or Benfica due to the league season potentially becoming too easy although both of their squads look to be great fun to take over. Which therefore leads me towards Leverkusen but again I wonder how easy that may become in time? Anyway sorry for the rambling and thanks for any input
  3. Hi Cleon thanks for the reply Yes I have already tried with the swap of one full back from inverted to complete but found it unstable I think more owing to my players rather than the actual idea of it. It’s something that I will keep trying throughout the save I think at times hopefully when I manage to train a few defenders or failed wingers into the role 😀 As for the idea of dropping the striker down a strata it purely comes from something I’ve always tried to replicate in previous versions that has then been abandanoned due to lack of defensive stability. But your thread and then me trying it has shown me it is possible to be stable defensively which has given me a new optimism I may be able to incorporate the rest of the tactic. I have attached a picture of the formation from the 1950s Hungary team I have been attempting to copy for years but I’m also of the opinion that it may lack a presence at the top of the formation that would cause it not to work fully though if I could get it working with the movement around it I would have got as close to the idea I’ve had for years and for that I’d like to thank you for your writing of this thread and showing that this formation is possible to pull off
  4. Hi Cleon Firstly I don’t think you should take any lack of posts in this topic as a way of people not having an interest etc, as if people are like me and I certainly speak for myself here, im a little nervous about asking something stupid or coming across as clueless. What I would say for me is I have been a big fan of reading your posts for the last 4-5 years and have attempted to garner as much information from your posts as possible and put them into my games. Where I have struggled in the past is I haven’t had the patience nor the ability to spot holes in my tactic and have then simply downloaded the best super tactic and then gone on to lose interest with the game due to the plug and play nature of doing this and not having to do any thinking whatsoever. Where your topic this year has given me real interest is the concept of the W-M formation as after reading Jonathan Wilson’s inverting the pyramid years ago I’ve always tried to insert the idea in FM mainly without any real success due mainly to being far too easy to play against and conceding goal after goal down the sides of the wide centre back/full back. After reading you topic and seeing that you had managed to have a stable defence even with this formation I simply copied the formation to see how the tactic played out in front of my eyes, and could see almost straight away a solidity due to having an almost box like grip on the game with the 2 halfbacks and then the 2 midfielders infront. This gave me real hope for being able to try this formation and I have since tried to move away from simply copying your tactic and instead use it a base for what I’d like to see. I actually moved one of the full backs from inverted to complete wingback before I had seen that you had so that gave me some solace in the fact you thought it could work but I have found that by doing this I have become more vulnerable to quick attacks which playing as Heerenveen in the Dutch league means I maybe haven’t quite got the right personnel to pull it off exactly as I’d like to see I am very interested to see your swap from AP to CM(a) due to the fact I actually went the other way as I tried to see an almost Kevin De Bruyne effect with that midfielder but am yet to be convinced either way tho we do keep the ball and play some good looking football at times. I am flip flopping from Attacking mentality and Balanced due to opposition and probably not quite seeing what benefit either is giving me in truth (more a general idea of surely I’m less stable playing Attacking) and I have to say I was happy to see your counter attacking video above as I’ve noticed when I counter I counter in big numbers even if my players don’t always make the right choice I think in the long term playing this way my hope is to see something that I would pigeon hole under total football I guess as I’ve had a long held fascination with the Puskas Hungarian sides as well as the Dutch 70s sides and the idea of a all player can play anywhere idea (within reason on a computer game) as I have a desire to see good football as well as win rather than just win by any means. If I could ask any questions of what you see in your tactic or in general of the tactic they would be *Do you think it would be an overkill of middle third somethings to maybe drop the striker into a deeper position maybe SS or something similar to try to give him that interaction and feel of everyone does everything as I’ll admit I can’t seem to get any striker role working for me *Whats your opinion on mentality with this system is Attacking too much but then you have the middle block of 4 to cover some of that *Maybe for me with a lesser team one inverted wingback and one complete wingback could be a workable solution though I’m not entirely sure that would work in reality *Im also tempted to drop a halfback back a strata to centreback and move the full backs up a strata but then have misgivings that then would mean the tactic would play a complete different way Anyway sorry for rambling and thanks for any reply
  5. Hi Cleon great thread yet again you really do have an almost unrivalled eye for this game. I apologise for lack of screenshots with this as other than finding myself here and playing I am really a novice with computers. My question/observation maybe not what you had planned for this and if that is the case no worries. I have spent the last few years buying the fm series and without any luck finding my own ways to play I have basically downloaded other peoples tactics which has always proven to be less fun and worthwhile. So after being this version 2 weeks ago I did my usual open a save with a decent top level team and just throw any old tactic out there which obviously didn't work. So I took time to read through your constructing a team thread and the how to play thread and decided to try to pay attention to what I was actually doing and treat this like a simulation rather than a game. I took over Sassuolo in Italy and with a little bit of money managed to bring in a few players that I felt would fit. The way I chose to play was Sweeper keeper Bpd. Cd. Bpd Dm (on defensive) Winger(support). Roaming playmaker(support). Wide midfielder (support) Raudemeter(attack). Advanced playmaker(support) Deep lying forward (support) Mentality-attacking. Fluid Close down more often Short passing Pass into space Now I've just finished 3rd in serie a and won the Italian cup, and have enjoyed the success of at least creating something myself, and I managed to get my raudemeter to top score with 37 goals in all comps (Domenico berardi) and my deep lying forward to score 31 in all comps (simone zaza) and have just bought Kevin de bruyne in the summer and sold zaza as I felt I would get even more from berardi directly infront of goal. Anyway sorry for rambling and this isn't. A post about players in general just wanted to give some idea of who I was talking about at least. My question to you is after seeing my side perform great all year and batter quite a few of the top teams aswell as holding Juve 3-3 away and 1-1 home aswell as beating them in the cup it's very easy for me to think I have cracked it and stay the same but after reading through this thread it's got me wondering if change can also bring about more success and although only finished 9 points off juve in 1st maybe there are new ideas to gain that extra inch. Also playing in the champions league (if get through the qualifying round) maybe I'd be too open against the top sides although the apparent weakness I thought I may have in the wide areas didn't quite materialise as between the wide centre backs and dm I seemed to close down that space pretty well on the whole. I appreciate without screenshots it's difficult to really see what is going on but I wondered if you had any input into the balance of change of play either as a whole or between games as after reading your thread I can certainly appreciate the art of although not defensive in how we see the word at least setting that mentality to begin and feel I could possibly learn a new way that may help me find a level of success finally with an idea straight form my head rather than downloading someone's "super tactic". For no other purpose other than you seeing how I am currently set up I'll put my "new" team up set for the 2nd season Consigli (sk) Marquinhos (bpd) Balanta (cd). Mammana (bpd) Vrsajko (defensive mid-defend) Sansone (winger-support) Lucas Romero (roaming playmaker-support). Dockal (winger-support) De Bruyne (raudemeter-attack) jose Sosa (advanced playmaker-support) Berardi (deep lying forward-support) Attacking mentality fluid. The dm is deep slightly to right The roaming playmaker is inline with wide players slightly to left The raudemeter is from the right wing and the advanced playmaker is in one from the left Sorry for the long post and thank you for all your effort you put into all of this it has certainly given me some enjoyment
  6. Hi guys great thread about a very enjoyable team to play. I actually only bought this years version last week and after 2 attempts at playing in the premier league decided to go down my usual route of going abroad. I picked Sassuolo before I seen this page but have been hooked reading your stories since stumbling across last night. A little insight I to how I've gone so far though only 6 games in to the season I bought Lucas Romero and , Mammana, and Marquinhos for defence. These deals were done on the basis of quite a lot of add ins so will need to do well at some point to gain that bit more money. The rest of the squad is pretty much same as default. I decided to go with a 3-4-3 formation with Sweeper keeper 2 ball playing defenders and central defender A holding defensive mid Winger. Deep lying playmaker. And wide midfielder raudemeter advanced playmaker Deep lying forward I am playing attacking mentality with fluid I have got berardi in the raudemeter and Zaza as the forward and they have been electric so far with 7 and 5 goals in 6 games apiece and although I was worried about maybe getting done on the wings playing 3 at the back with no proper wing backs my extra pressing seems to stop most of that threat. I have only played 6 games in the league won 5 and drawn 1 which the draw was my last game at home to a ten man lazio which was a slight disappointment but they seemed very dangerous even with 10 men so maybe a point wasn't bad after all. I'm hoping to keep berardi in the summer and will take a look at some of the players you guys have been buying and hopefully I can continue the decent start to at least finish in a European spot. I'll keep you posted and check in here for all of your stories Great thread guys
  7. Yes I think job safety wise I'm really healthy as I don't think the board would sack me any time soon and having done well for 3 seasons I'm in a position that I would have wanted and part of me now wants to take this club to hopefully winning the league and maybe add the champions league to the Europa league I have own but I know if I stay and lose my best players it is going to be very difficult to maintain never mind achieve any more success
  8. Hi everyone I've been a member for a while and an avid reader of the forum but rarely get involved posting. A background into my question i started as a 27 yr old manager with Sunday league reputation and I started as Rayo Vallecano manager. i had the idea of maybe trying to keep the club up for a couple of years and maybe try to move around Europe leading me to bigger clubs maybe. I somehow managed to finish 5th in my first season using a range of tactics but mainly a counter attacking tactic I found on the tactics forum which was very efficient in scoring the odd goal and keeping clean sheets which was definitely the key to my good season. i decided to change the style going into the second season and went with a different tactic again which I found on the tactics forum and had a fantastic season finishing 3rd behind Barcelona and Real Madrid. i had bought a few good young players such as Gabriel Barbosa, angel correa, and Ever Balanta due to having sold most of the team and finishing in Europe. I also won the Europa league winning every game I played except one leg against arsenal which was a draw but my tactic was unbeatable in Europe. the 3rd season was another very good season and I finished 2nd 4 points behind Barcelona but I could have really won the league but for a couple of late goals in games against Barcelona and Real Madrid resulting in draws in the last 5 games. im now into my 4th summer of this game and my contract is up in a month with the club on a weekly basis trying to get me to sign a new contract, but I am now attracting offers from Monaco, Roma, Milan, Spurs, Arsenal, as well as interviews at other clubs. The idea going into the game was to hopefully get to this position but after 3 very good seasons at a smaller club it's hard to walk away but the players I mentioned earlier as well as a few others are wanting to move to bigger clubs or at least want much higher wages than I can offer at Rayo which would mean ripping my team apart and starting again as I would have a whole team of unhappy players. my question is when does everyone think the best time to move on is or would you stay where you were and try to go one better but with the likeliness of having to sell your better players and try to do it all again thanks
  9. Yes I am unsure I would be able to add the libero without making the team less secure on occasion. Yes I am very happy with the 8th place and obviously don't want to jeopardise that by changing too much, I just feel at times during the season I was quite weak in the wide areas and having only 3 at the back I think the wide midfielders are important. Its a difficult situation as the better player I get going forward the more risk I take at the back and vice versa. I think in the ideal world I would find the next Cafu and possibly Vincent Candela but I won't hold my breath
  10. Hi everyone I very rarely post but have been reading these boards for the last few years, and am very interested in the tactical side of the game. I will start this by saying I had a few years off playing the game and then bought FM2013. I have tried a few saves where I didn't really think about what I was doing and just played the game thinking I should be able to win all in front of me like I did in my heyday of playing football manager. I have now read a few of these threads and have taken on board a new way of thinking and would like possibly to run few things with you Anybody who knows what they are doing more than me I'm sure. I chose to play as Wigan as I enjoy the way that they play in real life and think they have some good players to play the way I want to set up. I have now finished my first season in 8th position which I was of course very happy with and there were a lot of games in this first season that I conceded late goals that cost me quite a few points so it could have been even better. The tactics I chose were 3-1-4-2 with 3 normal defenders, 1 deep lying playmaker, 2 cm one on defend one on attack and 2 defensive wingers, then 2 upfront with an advanced forward and a trequartista Al habsi Alcatraz Ramis Figueroa Capoue Maloney McCarthy Diame beausejour Kone Leo I have bought Diame Leo and capoue, and have pretty much the rest of the squad as normal. I play counter attack with balanced philosophy, short passing, zonal marking, slow tempo But obviously with the idea of springing into attack when I win the ball back quickly. The question I have really is after having a good first season I could see during the games that my possible weak links were the defensive wingers but obviously without major money being invested I will have to stick with the squad I have and was wondering where you would maybe look to improve or is it more a case of not changing something that has worked pretty well in the first season. I did we'll against most teams except the big 4 or 5 but did beat Man City at home although luckily but I did beat Liverpool at home convincingly and outplayed Man Utd at old Trafford but somehow managed to miss a lot of chances and lose 1 0. I have managed to buy Leonard Kweuke, Guillermo burdisso, will Hughes, and a couple of regents that I will hope to mould into decent players for the system. I am now starting to tinker with the idea of shifting from a counter philosophy to a control, and am quite keen on the idea of having a liberal in the 3 man defence but am struggling to see if I would then get the right cover across the back 3 that I managed to get last season bar a few games where the defence struggled against really attacking lineups. I have spent the last week reading the understanding your tactic thread and found it very enlightening and have now taken to watching a full game back to see where the system isn't working and where it is. After reading that thread it certainly gives me the idea of changing to a 4-1-2-2-1 formation but I must admit I have always enjoyed the 3 man defence and am keen to try and become a top team playing it. I guess my question is, is there anyone who is playing this system or something similar who has any ideas on ways to improve it, as I am very happy with my first season but always believe there must be a performance boost to be had by adding different ideas. I'm not very computer literate so I'm sorry for lack of imagery and match video attached but if it requires I will do my bets in trying to provide it. I'm sorry for rambling on and taking up time and space on this page, and I apologise if these ideas have already been discussed as I have tried to look for them without any success. Thank you for your patience
  11. Hi Cleon Great thread, I've really enjoyed reading your ideas and everyone's input. I will start this by saying I had a few years off playing the game and then bought FM2013. I have tried a few saves where I didn't really think about what I was doing and just played the game thinking I should be able to win all in front of me like I did in my heyday of playing football manager. I have now read a few of these threads and have taken on board a new way of thinking and would like possibly to run few things with you Cleon or anyone else. I chose to play as Wigan as I enjoy the way that they play in real life and think they have some good players to play the way I want to set up. I have now finished my first season in 8th position which I was of course very happy with and there were a lot of games in this first season that I conceded late goals that cost me quite a few points so it could have been even better. The tactics I chose were 3-1-4-2 with 3 normal defenders, 1 deep lying playmaker, 2 cm one on defend one on attack and 2 defensive wingers, then 2 upfront with an advanced forward and a trequartista Al habsi Alcatraz Ramis Figueroa Capoue Maloney McCarthy Diame beausejour Kone Leo I have bought Diame Leo and capoue, and have pretty much the rest of the squad as normal. I play counter attack with balanced philosophy, short passing, zonal marking, slow tempo I think it is pretty much the setup Cleon talked about in his 3-1-4-2 setup The question I have really is after having a good first season I could see during the games that my possible weak links were the defensive wingers but obviously without major money being invested I will have to stick with the squad I have and was wondering where you Cleon would maybe look to improve or is it more a case of not changing something that has worked pretty well in the first season. I did we'll against most teams except the big 4 or 5 but did beat Man City at home although luckily but I did beat Liverpool at home convincingly and outplayed Man Utd at old Trafford but somehow managed to miss a lot of chances and lose 1 0. As I say I can only be happy with the first season but would like to ask where I could maybe improve and maybe try to push Wigan on to higher places Thankyou
  12. Hi everyone. Just wanted tosay great forum My question is is there any way that you can put background noise into the game. For example one of my fave saves is Dortmund and I would love to play as Dortmund with the very noisy and passionate Dortmund fans in the background when playing matches. I was wondering whether it is possible to add say a mp3 to the match engine maybe or something along those lines. Thanks for your replies Also I would love it if SI got the rights to the bundesliga and got all kits and logos sorted for Germany as I love playing the bundesliga
  13. Ye thats what i was starting to think, but obviously i dont particularly want to resign from Porto nor do i want to apply for another job while managing Porto, im not even on a big contract, and the crazy thing is last year when i had only 3 months left on my contarct Liverpool appointed Mick McCarthy who had i think 3 years left and i couldnt help feeling the realism had gone as in real life if there was a manager who had won virtually everything with a smaller club the bigger club would never hav appointed Mick McCarthy without approaching the younger successful manager first (Andre Villas Boas) for example. Maybe i will have to make a decision shortly then with this Porto team as i am starting to crave a different challenge far sooner than i expected after winning everything i could.
  14. Hi everyone. I just wanted to give you a quick rundown of my game to give you the idea. I am still playing on FM11. I am managing Porto and i am in my third season now, my career has started pretty much as Jose Mourinho's did, i won the League and cup double plus the Uefa cup in the first season. In my second season i brought in a few young regens and young brazilians who just clicked and i won the League and cup double plus the Champions League beating Man Utd, Bayern, Lyon, and Milan in the final. My question really is why havent i had any job offers? I am starting to get bored with the portugese league, obviously the challenge to try to retain the Champions League is there but i would like a new challenge. The problem is i dont like resigning from clubs, so im not going to resign and wait for jobs and i dont want to apply for a job whie manager at Porto, but i just dont understand why after winning what i have done especially in europe, my reputation is now world class, no clubs have even been interested in me. The summer just gone Juventus sacked their manager and appointed Luigi De Canio when surely they would be interested in a young manager with the list of trophies like myself, Milan sacked their manager, as did Liverpool,Tottenham and Valencia. I would have probably gone to any of these teams but my name wasnt even mentioned with any of these jobs. I just wanted to know peoples experience with this, does it remain like this and will i have to eventually resign and apply for another job or will teams soon come calling for the next Jose Mourinho . Thankyou for your replys
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