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I'd be very interest to see Phillips as the deeper player and Bellingham in the B2B role in the next couple of years that's for sure.
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1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said:
Yeah I see it that way too.
As I said, even though England’s midfield isn’t as good (disagree if you want), it won’t be the deciding factor of the game.
FWIW, it's not that I disagree with Italy's midfield being better. I just think some posts are being harsh on Rice and Phillips who've had really good tournaments.
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1 minute ago, Nordan said:
What? Even the most ardent Inglander has to admit NOT going to the final on that path would be complete, utter failure.
No offense
You're saying this is the first test, which is bollocks, I'm sorry. Sure, after beating Germany we should have made the final, but before Croatia everyone goes on about how difficult it will be, before Germany people talk about how they're going to show their strength and ease past us, and before Denmark people talk about what a threat they are, look how many goals they've scored, they're so much better then you think, and then we outplay them.
Not going to argue there's no luck with the side of the draw, but saying the final ffs is the first test is just nonsense, and seems pretty clearly intended to downplay the England team. It's not like we've bungled our way through either. Sure, the football for a lot of the time hasn't been thrill a minute, but it's incredibly solid defensively, and we've been in control for every game - aside from some poorer periods particularly against Germany and Denmark.
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14 minutes ago, aggressive minor said:
Kane also drops into midfield a lot for England too tbf, regarding one of the earlier points.
This will be an important factor in the game I feel. Spain's goal was created with Morata dropping deep, if we get it right with Sterling and Saka (or Sancho or Rashford or anyone else quick) running in behind we can create chances.
I think we'll see Mount pressing on Jorginho a lot to try and prevent him dictating, Rice and Phillips probably quite a bit deeper to limit spaces for the others to pass into, and try feed Kane to create from deep. He was rubbish at this in the group stages but he's proper turned it on in the knockouts now, hopefully we can create similar to the goal against Denmark.
Obviously this makes it sound a lot easier than it will be
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7 minutes ago, ajw10 said:
If we beat Italy the narrative will be that this isn't a vintage Italian side
Don't forget the unfairness that we've played games at home of course.
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4 minutes ago, Nordan said:
The first real test for Sir Gareth and his men. I honestly have no idea how this'll play out but I hope Italy wins.
Come on
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Loads said we'd have no chance against Croatia and German's midfield. I know Italy's is exceptional but Rice and Phillips are so much better than people are making out.
I don't think we'll be going into it specifically trying to win the midfield battle, but this isn't championship cloggers.
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11 minutes ago, EdL said:
I miss Barry Davies so much
I don't think there's a commentator who's been so good at so many different sports.
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I have vague memories of 1998 and Euro 2000, but my main England memories are definitely 2002 onwards. I really thought we'd win it that year, and in 2004, partially due to being an optimistic 10/12 year old. But outside of that, I've never really felt like we were massively close. Even in 2006 when people were talking about our chances, I just didn't see it. Not because I was some super football genius at 14 or anything, and I'm sure as hell not now, it just felt like other teams were just better.
2008 to 2016 I don't think we need any more posts discussing what a shambles all that was for a variety of reasons. I was against the Southgate appointment, but 2018 is the first time I can really remember more than just a bit of hope. Obviously we fell short, but it was nice to have something for once. And now this tournament has just been such a good experience, topped off by having a Leeds player playing nearly every minute which has just added to the attachment, especially one who people were absolutely slating not long ago before Bielsa came: (spoilered cause swearing)
Spoiler
Maybe we'll lose on Sunday but hopes for winning a tournament at some point have never been higher.
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Jenas is like an AI has been created to be a co-commentator. Everything he says is football related, but none of it has any actual meaning behind it.
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1 hour ago, BoroPhil said:
BBC because no ads.
Am I the only person who thinks Matterface isn't *that* bad?
My brother doesn't mind him either. I've now disowned him.
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9 minutes ago, skybluedave said:
I still can't believe England are in the final. Like in my mind I'm aware England are in a big game Sunday but I can't compute it's the actual final. My mind is like 'you wanna double check, you sure it's not a Semi Final'
I've sat through so many terrible tournaments in my life. I'm going to enjoy and saviour every moment Sunday, win or lose.
I'm the same, I really don't think it's quite registered yet. We just don't this do we
3 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said:Forgot he was in the squad tbh
Nice thing to say though
I'm glad the players who haven't played at all/not much are still being praised publicly by Southgate et al. The togetherness of the squad is incredible especially when compared to the early 2000s.
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6 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said:
Even clearer here
but let the bitters carry on, its hilarious
I just don't know how people can still cry about VAR after these replays. Why on earth would it overturn that?
Carry on thinking it's not enough for a pen if you want, but how is it a clear and obvious error?
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1 minute ago, martinji said:
Just catching up on the thread and Matterface chat...
Two moments for me. First when Sterling had a great chance and hit it straight into Schmeical's stomach. Matterface: "HOW ON *EARTH* HAS HE SAVED THAT?!?!" in a tone as if it was Banks v Pele. He couldn't have not saved it.
And then the most cringe worthy commentary of the euros so far, the spiel at the end (paraphrasing): "After the year you've had, you deserve this. Kids, you don't need to go to bed, folks, tell your boss you won't be in tomorrow.." and a load of similar guff I don't care to remember. You knew he felt he was making a commentary speech for the ages, in his mind speaking to and for all of England. Inane and pure ego masturbation.
The main issue is it sounds so incredibly forced and so unnatural. You can tell he had that "speech" planned for if we won. And if he didn't, ****ing hell how can you sound so forced when trying to display genuine reaction!
The point with the save just goes back to again how he doesn't seem to properly understand football, and again he overstates things.
I know we all keep harping on about him but my word he really is just a slog to listen to. Funnily enough I didn't really have any issue with him when he was their B/C commentator but now he's their top guy it really does feel like he's trying to force some kind of legendary commentary moment and failing spectacularly at it.
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53 minutes ago, brett.spurs said:
He's not the only embarrassment named LeeHow utterly broken do you have to be as a football fan to not cheer a goal for your country because they play for your rival ffs
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2 minutes ago, VamPook said:
LMAO
I'm not even anti-England
I always support the perennial underachievers in international tournaments
I couldn't be bothered to argue then, but didn't realise making a post about the absolute borefest tactics(ask any neutral) in the group games or believing France were a stronger team equates to shitposting about England
You made a post about how you were looking forward to quoting people getting excited ffs
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30 minutes ago, skybluedave said:
Kane will beat Rooney's record wont he
At this point it would be incredibly surprising if he doesn't. 15 goals to go and he's only 27 (28 in a few weeks.) He could get that in just the next 2 qualifiers, and he'd have the Nations League and World Cup on top.
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18 minutes ago, craigcwwe said:
We now have a name to put on that cheque.
Wait until we reveal the gofundme for the crying girl was actually to bribe the refs
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5 minutes ago, darren1983 said:
Ah you gotta feel sorry for the Scott's though - they've supported 4 teams in this comp and have yet to see a win
They're alright, they either get to celebrate Italy winning, or they get to say "Scotland are the only team the champions couldn't beat"
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4 minutes ago, Haguey said:
It's one of the things Southgate has done so well, if you're good enough it doesn't matter about age or who you play for. Sancho and Bellingham getting their debuts very young and Phillips getting called up with 0 PL games played would have never happened with any other manager.
It helps that this is a great group of talents too of course.
Henderson would 100% have been starting under other managers as well, with everyone going on about how unfit he is. He's clearly got a great squad, but he's done an excellent job he really has. And I was definitely a doubter at points before.
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7 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said:
Final is on BBC as well right? RIGHT?
Indeed it is
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Just now, oche balboa said:
Its a mystery why Clive Tyldesley got demoted for him
I don't even like Clive but my word the difference between him and Matterface is night and day
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5 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said:
Matterface... he sounds like someone who doesn't really like football, has never really watched it and is now trying to fake it
I actually quite like a commentator who sounds a bit Partridge in places, if they are passionate about what they are doing you can forgive a lot. But Matterface, it's just a job for him and he's not even any good at it.
It amazes me how often he doesn't seem to know what's going on. Like one point last night going "ooh have they given offside? Ooh no it's a corner!"
It feels like watching it with an annoying guy at work who clearly doesn't care about football but is trying to sound like he knows everything.
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Just now, ginnybob said:
Sure...but I wasn't disagreeing with that score.
Exactly, it's the way they've worded it to sound like Rice was terrible all game and Henderson was wonderful.
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Tbf if Spain won their group we'd have likely had them in the quarter final instead of Ukraine, so there was some luck there with them not winning their group.