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  1. Il y a 4 heures, pheelf a dit :

    Thanks for the kind comment :).

    Still working with the basic 4-4-2, I just find it much easier to build squads with it. I've found the more specific a tactic in terms of roles, the more difficult it can be to find players to suit those roles. With the 4-4-2 tactic, I have more freedom and more of the individuality of the player can come out with the generic roles I use.

    For e.g. I can have two completely different types of right winger for the winger (attack) role, one pacy and direct while the other is technically gifted and patient. Therefore swapping between the two can make a massive difference to the way the tactic plays out which can be very useful when plan A might not be working.

    I have a possession based 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 on standby should I ever need to use them but I haven't felt the need so far. 

    Cheers

    I do pretty much the same as you with  a simple 451. having two sets of players. i ussally start at level 6 in France or 10 in england.

    tell me what you think of my tacttic

    truly yours

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  2. Le 13/11/2020 à 12:13, Icy a dit :

    Tactic looks good and balanced, and if you match it with the required players, you just have a winning formula for that team, not an exploit. 

    The midfield pair as said before is key imho for the 4-2-3-1 as well. Usually we see FM players playing too aggressive and have the need of using a midfield with a b2b and advanced playmaker or mezzala instead of a contaning midfield as it should. In that formation the attack and creative must be provided by the AMC, ALR, AML and FW while the midfield pair needs to be there to provide cover, avoid counters and recicle the ball, specially if your wingbacks also go up the filed to provide width. That is also why the 4-2-3-1 version with two DMs work well.

    In fact probably the main "problem" is not the tactic but morale. If you start winning and your players morale maxes up, and you don't screw it in team talks or press releases so they don't get overconfident, it's easy to maintain winning streaks that boost your morale so you win more etc in a loop effect, specially visible for strikers.

    In FM20 at least, morale plays a huge role and there are some threads questioning it already. As a test, you can try a new save with same players and same tactic and if you don't start winning soon, you might see that the same tactic is effective but not as "overpowered" without the moral boost from the initial wins. 

    I started my last save in FM20 in the lowest uk league, started winning a few games with a balanced tactic and then kept the streak for like 20 games until I got bored of the "easy" wins and decided to abandon the save as it was looking unrealistic to me.

    Icy, what was this balanced tactic ?

  3. Le 03/10/2020 à 10:33, ahmed.sg a dit :

    Yeah I definitely got a lot of yellow cards for fullbacks initially, especially at right back, but not as much now as personnel changed.

    That's how I initially set it up but N'dombele has "prefers to play on the left of a two man midfield" and Skipp has the same but for the right, so I switched them. I used to have Florentino Luis at CMd who also preferred the left so I put him there but since he's gone (Real came in with too much money to refuse and he wanted to leave) I switched. I might switch the roles on the flanks (for separate reasons) which would naturally mean the CMd is back on the same side as the attacking fullback, we'll see.

    Only PI is "dribble more" for N'dombele because I want him to carry the ball, though if that can be achieved otherwise I'm happy to drop it as it feels wrong to ask a holding player to dribble, though the Tactics Creator doesn't flag up the "conflicting instructions" thing it does with other stuff so who knows maybe it's fine. I drop that PI when someone else is playing DLPs (Winks, usually) though.

    Lots of PPMs, I may have gone overboard in fact, because eventually my coaches kept telling me the players "have enough about their game" so let me know if I should have them unlearn some in your opinion.

    RB (CWBs): run with ball down right, get forward whenever possible, run with ball often

    LB (CWBa): run with ball down left, get forward whenever possible, run with ball often, get into opposition area, knock ball past opponent, move ball to left foot before dribble attempt, tries tricks

    CB (CDd): plays short simple passes, stays back at all times, runs with ball rarely, refrains from long shots

    CB (BPDd): just realised I haven't taught De Ligt the stuff I taught his predecessor yet

    CM (CMd): plays short simple passes, dives into tackles 

    CM (DPLs): plays one-twos, dictates tempo, looks for pass rather than attempting to score, knocks ball past opponent, likes ball played into feet

    RW (IWa): run with ball through centre, moves into channels, tries killer balls often, tries tricks, runs with ball often, cuts inside from right wing

    AM (SSa): run with ball through centre, gets into opposition area, gets forward whenever possible, tries tricks, runs with ball often

    LW (IWs): run with ball down right (he had that, didn't teach him), places shots, likes to round keeper, cuts inside from left wing, moves ball to right foot before dibble (he had that also I think)

    ST (CFs): moves into channels

    Do you use any OI or tweak during game ?

  4. Il y a 18 heures, pheelf a dit :

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    Linfield F.C.

    SEASON 2062 / 2063

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    The focus has to be on keeping our domestic dominance going and making it 3 in a row in the Champions League. The purpose of which to build up the size of the clubs fan base and initiate the need for a new bigger stadium so that I can leave the desired legacy at the club.

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    League Table - In the end, we just got over the line with a final day win guaranteeing us the title but I feel we got lucky this season. Going into the split we was in 2nd with Glenavon leading the way. It was only due to a spectacular late season collapse from Glenavon which gave us the ability to overtake them. This was a frustrating season filled with little annoyances along the way. For e.g., being 2-0 up against Portadown only to let it slip and draw 2-2, regularly losing to our closest rivals and dropping points against relegation candidates. If we are to avoid such a close finish again we will need to rediscover our consistency and stop dropping needless points given how much more consistent our competition has become.

    Ballymena United beat Cliftonville in the UEFA Conference League playoff final 1-0 to secure a place in Europe while Crusaders stayed up thanks to a 3-1 aggregate win over Newington in the relegation playoff. It was a shame to see Donegal Celtic relegated but if you only win 3 games for the whole season then what do you expect.

    UEFA Champions League - This was tough but that fighting spirit we've developed over the last few seasons seemed to inspire us to glory making it a hat trick of wins. The draw for the group stage was kind and we were able to top the group relatively easily. Expecting an easier draw against a runner up for the 1st Knockout Round I was therefore disappointed when we drew Juventus.

    After the 1st leg, I was feeling even further crushed given we had no away goals and a one goal deficit to make up. I knew we needed a strategy to turn the game around and when I saw them fielding a defensive mentality with a 4-1-4-1 formation for the 2nd leg I decided to make some alterations to my tactic. I dropped the mentality to Balanced to have a more patient and considered attack knowing that they weren't going to press my players as aggressively. I also took off the Be More Expressive team instruction to stop my players needlessly gifting them back possession when attempting risky passes and roaming out of position with such regularity. It seemed to do the trick and we pulled off a great performance to comfortably win the game and the tie.

    Into the quarter finals, I was quite pleased when we drew Schalke 04 as I felt they were one of the weakest teams left in the competition. My confidence in our ability to beat them proved to be well founded as we coasted to a comfortable aggregate win which set up a semi-final against another German opponent. RB Leipzig are a completely different animal however and this was shown when we lost the 1st leg. I knew we were going to need another special performance to turn it around and we managed it to get to the final.

    On paper, it should have been easier to beat Bayern Munich than RB Leipzig given that they finished runners up in the Bundesliga to RB Leipzig but actually this game was much more difficult. We had a number of injuries with our first choice right back Kobrowski missing, our first choice deep lying forward Schmitt out and our first choice left back Burgel still suffering from an arm injury with him having to use protective equipment to even be select able. Then of course we had players like Tula and Acebal who weren't really match fit which all added to the headache of picking a side for the final.

    Therefore it was to my great shock when we scored within 3 minutes. The lead didn't last very long however as within 10 minutes they were level. This had me concerned that the game was too open and if the game was going to become a shooting gallery that we would eventually lose. As a result, I made some tactical changes to try and stifle the game. The first of which being to try and play over their high press so I instructed both my fullbacks to play more direct passes and that seemed to give us more possession and a bit more of a foothold in the game.

    That change seemed to settle the game down and instead of having regular highlights as we faced attack after attack that reduced the number of their attacks down quite significantly. I was successful in turning the game into a war of attrition and that mindset allowed us navigate our way to extra time. I would have been happy to settle for penalties given our decent record at those but I was very pleased when Tula lobbed a header over their goalkeeper after a defensive mistake to give us the lead. We only needed to hold on for another 15 minutes so I locked it down. I took off Tula and brought on another central midfielder in Malesa, changed both fullbacks onto defend duty, the right winger onto support duty and that seemed to work as we they never really threatened to get the equalizer. A brilliant result and an excellent campaign overall, more of the same again please.

    UEFA Super Cup - I didn't enjoy this game at all, we went from winning to drawing to winning again then drawing again, back to winning in the shootout only to end up losing overall. A disappointing start to the season but I suppose we got lucky last season so by law of averages we were due a loss.

    Domestic Cups - We won nothing which says a lot about the depth of the squad. Given the way things was shaping up in the league and in Europe I had to mainly play weakened sides in the cups to keep our best players fresh for the more important games and the drop in quality was very noticeable. Didn't much care for the two hammerings we took against Glentoran in the two finals we did reach either.

    Reserves - A decent season from them and nice to see attendances on the rise.

    Under 18s - I was impressed with their performances this season, a very good effort in the UEFA Youth League.

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    Squad - Depth is the key going forwards if we are to launch a full scale assault on all the competitions we will be competing in next season. I tried to strengthen in the positions I identified last season as being weaknesses but unfortunately our budget simply wouldn't stretch enough to really do it all. This season we definitely need a quality DR, I had my eyes on one and we could have brought him in January but unfortunately we ran out of time for the paperwork to go through. He will be a target for when the window opens again.

    Although Schmitt ST is a decent player I feel that getting in a top quality Deep Lying Forward is a necessity also. I'm very pleased with the core of young players at the club and to see Acebal DL break through into the first team. I really wish there was more quality coming from the youth team but that seems to have dried up as a source for high potential players.  

    Transfers - A lot of movement this season which saw a massive profit coming into the club. While it was a shame to lose Pitts MC, Jara ML and Reinaldo DL I felt their respective replacements of Rondinelli MC, Quintero ML and Acebal DL (promoted from the youth team) all performed excellently meaning we didn't really miss them. I'm also excited about a lot of the young talent that was brought in with Malesa MC, Yao MR and Abb DC looking to have bright futures at the club. I don't sense there will be as much activity next season unless I get some outrageously high bids for my best players so I can bring in quality replacements.

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    Average Rating: 7.67
    The guy is a goal scoring machine and seems to be scoring more and more every season. That just goes to prove that natural position and role suitability should be taken with a pinch of salt. If a player has the right sort of attributes you want for a role and no conflicting PPMs they will shine regardless of what the in game advice is telling you. I am concerned with his market value though, it seems very low for a triple Champions League winning striker and may be temptingly low.
     
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    Average Rating: 7.76
    Has been excellent in his debut season and was keeping Beis out of the team for a while. I think he has a lot more room to grow and I look forward to seeing how good a player he can become.
     
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    Finances - Another comfortable balance, if we can maintain a balance of over £100M that should be enough to build a new stadium when the time comes for it. I really am not happy with the market values of my players though as it is making me have to field a lot of low and insulting offers which do immense damage to the morale of the player involved.

    Facilities - Another upgrade to both the youth and training facilities which is great to see. Now it becomes a waiting game to see when it becomes viable for a new stadium to be built. Given that our average attendance is just over 60% of the total capacity of Windsor Park it could take a while although I'm hoping that the Champions League and DBP win will help next season.

    Youth Intake - I think I'm going to need to start looking for a youth affiliation to broaden our potential talent pool as we can't continue with a situation where we get at most 1 decent player every decade. I signed everyone but I can't see any of this crop getting anywhere near the first team.
     
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    League Reputation - Staying in place isn't bad but some more promising news on the nations coefficient front as we close the gap significantly to Scotland while opening up a bit of a gap to the nations below us.
     
    Club Domestic Reputation - I don't expect to see much changes on this screen anytime soon.
     
    Club European Reputation - Amazing that we are still only 5th after winning the Champions League three years in a row but never mind.
     
    Here is how the other N. Irish teams performed in Europe this season:
     
    Glentoran - Knocked out in Europa League Semi Final by Arsenal 10-1 on aggregate - Excellent work from them as they not only qualified for the group stage of the Champions League but they had an excellent run in the knockout stages of the Europa League which greatly helped the nations coefficient. Just a shame it had to end in such a humiliating defeat.
    Glenavon - Finished 3rd in Europa Conference League group - This was actually quite poor from them as I expected a bit better.
    Knockbreda - Knocked out in Europa Conference League Semi Final by Ajax Amsterdam on away goals after 1-1 draw on aggregate - A superb run for them, so close to the final.
    Portadown - Knocked out in Europa Conference League 2nd Qualifying Round by SonderjysK 2-0 on aggregate - They could have done better but if you fail to plan you plan to fail, they just weren't fit enough to compete.
     
    Llanrhaeadr watch - It came down to a last ditch attempt at survival from them. A draw on the final day allowing them to climb out of the relegation zone when their rival Colwyn Bay suffered a shock defeat against bottom of the table amateurs Swansea University. I'm hoping that surviving this season will allow them to build for next season and stay up more convincingly next time around.
     
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    Still using your 442 ?

  5. il y a une heure, pheelf a dit :

    I have been known to, on occasion. It's no guarantee that it will work (nothing ever does guarantee success) but I've found it works more often than the other approach of being more aggressive. Every time I've pushed up the defensive line, made the players press higher I haven't seen it result in us being able to break down parked buses more easily. I know it seems counter intuitive (probably because it is...the natural instinct is to want to get in the opponents faces) but I've found that's what has worked for me.

    When chasing a goal against a parked bus it will much depend on the time of the game. If it's early and I have time then I wont make any changes to the base tactic. I'll usually make some tactical subs around the 60th minute mark if we are still behind. Then finally around the 70th minute mark if things still haven't turned in our favour I'll drop down the mentality to give us time to make it work. Usually those changes do the trick against the tiring opposition. If they don't then maybe around the 85th minute in desperation I'll put 3 upfront and go onto the attacking mentality. That is seldom necessary and I could probably count on one hand the amount of times in the save I've had to resort to that.

    The reality is, I'm usually able to win those sort of games against very defensive opposition long before any of those changes become necessary. During my time with Glentoran I would often be going into half time having already won the game being 4 or 5 nil up with it being a case of how many goals we were going to score rather than thinking about how we are going to break down the opposition. I know that it is an area that a lot of players struggle with as I used to also but I guess through experience I've gotten to the point where I actually welcome teams parking the bus against my teams as I know it's likely an easy win for us.

    Cheers

    many thanks, i ll try your way

  6. Il y a 2 heures, pheelf a dit :

    When teams parked the bus against me I used to do something similar to what you suggested and found it to be ineffective (if it works for you then that's great). I found that while it pressurizes the opponent more by engaging with them higher up the pitch it also restricts the space my players have to work with when the ball was recovered.

    By compressing the pitch I feel that works into the hands of the defending opposition who want to have to defend as small an area as possible. I've found that having good depth, width, tempo and unpredictability in my attacks is the best way to get past the most stubborn of defences. Playing in N. Ireland I had to develop that strategy given the amount of times in the season I face such opposition.

    I also wouldn't want to prevent the goalkeeper from distributing it short if the opposition is parking the bus. I want their defenders spending time on the ball rather than their midfielders or attackers. Defenders overall tend not to be very good technically and it's much more likely they will play a loose pass or miss-control the ball which can lead to us regaining possession.

    I feel that to get the best out of my players when they face teams that are parking the bus they need space to express themselves and show their quality. For e.g. I have a pacy right winger, if I compress the pitch so he receives the ball when he is practically in front of the oppositions defensive line his pace can't really be used that effectively in my system. Whereas if he receives the ball deeper his speed becomes an asset which draws the fullback wide and creates the width to open up the channel for my Advanced Forward. Having space also is very beneficial for the Deep Lying Forward who gets a larger pocket to operate in.   

    All the best

    That mean you ll play like that against defending teams ?

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    And what about chasing a goal ?

  7. il y a une heure, pheelf a dit :

    I do, especially in the more important games.

    For e.g. If I notice that my team is being pressed high and hard up the pitch (usually against better quality opposition) I'll give my defenders the PI to play more direct to try and play over their press.

    If I see a team playing on a very low mentality against us and I haven't managed to break through them then I'll sometimes lower my mentality. I've found that playing slower can give my players more time to get into better attacking positions which often helps to break defensive teams down.

    If I'm desperately looking to cling onto a result I'll put my left back on defend duty. I also appreciate the power of substitutions and I like to have different types of player for each position. For e.g. A technically gifted winger and a quick winger on the bench. That way when I see the opposition fullbacks tiring I can bring on the pacy winger to run at them which often works.

    I've also got into the habit of selectively using opposition instructions for some games which for me used to be a sacrilege but I've totally changed my opinion on them and discovered how useful they can be.

    If an opposition midfielder / attacker has bravery <10 I'll tackle them hard, if they have poor jumping reach I'll mark them tightly (I've seen that my players can beat them in the air and recover possession more easily doing this). I also like to show fullbacks onto their weaker foot to help prevent quality crosses coming into the box.

    As much as tactics are important, I feel that getting the right profile and quality of player is just as important. Currently at Linfield, I don't have that and as a consequence, performances have suffered. Once I've brought in the quality of player I need then the amount of micromanagement tends to go down and I don't need to make as many tweaks if any.

    Best Regards

    Thanks,

    don't you think against teams parking the bus having a higher line of engagement, higher defensive line and use off side trap and prevent GK distribution ?

    also against narow team using 3-4-3 i attack wider.

    Against positive team I gegenpress and hit counter if they go offensive

    I use OI like you and tackkle hard the lowest 3  bavery players, and look at winger to see what foot do they use to show them on their weaker foot.

    to close the game, i put both FB on defense and the R winger on support , go defnesive , play direct and hit counter, and sometines i bnag a goal

    truly yours

  8. il y a une heure, pheelf a dit :

    Still rolling with the 4-4-2 although I may make a tactical post detailing my 4-1-2-3 Wide system even if I don't end up using it during the save. I don't really know whether it would be any good given that the last game I used it in was FM17 but as it's built upon what I think are solid principles I'd hope it would still work in FM20.

    Best Regards

    Many thanks for your answer. do you tweak your tactic during game against attacking or defending opponents ?

  9. Le 06/06/2020 à 17:37, pheelf a dit :

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    Linfield F.C.

    SEASON 2054 / 2055

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    Consistently qualifying for Europe is going to be the most important objective in these early years in order to raise the funds for the rebuild needed. I think we are at least guaranteed a top 6 finish so given the number of ways we can achieve our goal I'm fairly confident we'll qualify for Europe.

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    League Table - We ended the season in the exact same position as when I joined. Our form was very inconsistent and if I'm bring honest I'm glad to see the back of this season. We didn't score enough goals with our lack of quality upfront costing us. We also had a very leaky defence at times which led to us taking a few heavy defeats which was unpleasant. There is a lot of work to be done if we are to think of challenging Glenavon and Larne for 3rd next season but we are light years behind the top 2.

    Elsewhere, Distillery will be joining the DBP next season after winning the Championship title. Dungannon Swifts also managed to get promoted after beating Coleraine 5-3 on aggregate in the relegation playoff. It was a close fight between Knockbreda and Glentoran for the title which was interesting to see although it is a little jarring to think that within the space of a season that the gap could have closed that much. Mind you, Glentoran did sell over £200M worth of talent which probably doesn't help. 

    Danske Bank Premier UEFA Europa Conference League Playoff - This was a real struggle but at least we made it as failure would have really put the brakes on our ability to improve the squad. We'll have to navigate 3 qualifying rounds to make it into the group stage but at least we have the opportunity to make some desperately needed money next season.

    UEFA Europa Conference League - The European campaign was over before I joined which saw them finish bottom of their group. I'm glad they did make it into the group stage though as that really made a tremendous difference to the bank balance. If there is a reason to be optimistic it might be that this seasons competition was won by Dundalk (their second win of the trophy) which just goes to show that even teams from smaller leagues can have realistic hopes of winning this trophy. Getting to the group stage again next season is going to be tough but would be incredibly helpful.

    Domestic Cups - Never came close to winning anything and the defeat in the Irish Cup was brutal. I was disappointed at the time thinking we had blown a good opportunity to get into Europe but thankfully we won the playoffs.

    Reserves - Not much of a squad to speak of so their performance wasn't unexpected.

    Under 18s - Given that they had no players when I first joined I think a mid table finish is respectable.

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    Squad - The lack of depth I highlighted when I first joined really came back to haunt us. I often had to use players out of position which really didn't help us to settle and led to our inconsistency. I managed to address some of the holes in the squad with pre-contract agreements but we are still some way off having what we need to take the club forward.

    Transfers - I was happy to get rid of an aging Muratovic ST to lower the wage bill, we still have to contribute some of his wage going forward but he felt he had achieved everything possible at the club so that was a convenient excuse to get him out the door. I then brought in a number of players on pre-contract agreements and triggered the 'Buy Now' clauses to bring them in early. Morel DL, Davidson ST, Mitchell GK, McGowan ST & Harrison DR all being examples of me using that clause. I sold promising youngster Harris ST to Knockbreda for a reasonable fee which helped fund some of the other pre-contract signings which will arrive in the summer. Unfortunately, I was unable to sell any high valued players but hopefully that will change in the summer window when teams have more money to spend.

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    Our best player but I'd be more than happy to sell him for the right price. In fact, I would really like to sell him but nobody appears to be interested.
     
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    Average Rating: 6.97
    A player that was a victim of the lack of depth in the squad which had him being played all over the pitch. He won't be here next season and I have a feeling that he is going to prove difficult to replace.
     
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    Finances - The bank balance was boosted further with the coefficient and TV money from playing in the Europa Conference League group stage which brings the balance to over £3M. All the money at this point will be invested into bringing in free transfers as I don't feel we are secure enough financially to spend money on buying players.

    Facilities - Aside from the youth recruitment and junior coaching everything was left untouched.

    Youth Intake - Everybody was signed, it'll be interesting to see if any of these players can make it into the first team.
     
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    League Reputation - Keeping position is the name of the game for now.
     
    Club Domestic Reputation - We've got a big gap to close to the very best. Next season will see the DBP with only 10 professional sides.
     
    Club European Reputation - We are very far from having a decent coefficient and will be in this position for a while. It's going to make qualifying for the group stage of the Europa Conference League difficult. Bizarre to see Distillery with a better coefficient than us.
     
    Here is how the other N. Irish teams performed in Europe this season:
     
    Glentoran - Knocked out in Champions League 1st Knockout Round by Chelsea 4-2 on aggregate - It was always going to be a long shot for them to retain their title. They did win the first leg 2-1 at home but a collapse in London saw them off.
    Glenavon - Finished 4th in Europa League group - A woeful campaign as they finished with 0 points.
    Knockbreda - Knocked out in Europa League Quarter Final by Borussia Dortmund on away goals after a 3-3 draw on aggregate - I was really impressed with them in Europe this season. Not only did they make it into the Champions League group stage they finished 3rd and came close to getting 2nd. They then proceeded to dispatch Benfica and PSG on their route to the quarter final which was fantastic.
    Ballymena United - Finished 3rd in Europa Conference League group - I think this is the first season in which all the N. Irish participants made it to a group stage which is an incredible sign of progress. Hopefully, it can be repeated again next season as we attempt to reel in Scotland in the coefficient table.
     
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    I Pheelf, still using your 442 ?

  10. il y a 5 minutes, Experienced Defender a dit :

    Unfortunately, I don't have enough time at the moment to analyze your players, but I can give you an example of a possession-oriented tactic, taking into account that you are managing a lower-league club. And not 4231 but 4123 wide.

    PFsu

    IFat                                 Wsu

    DLPsu   CMat

    A/HB

    WBsu   CDco  CDde   WBsu

    SKde

    Mentality - Balanced or Positive

    In possession - shorter passing, fairly narrow and overlap left

    In transition - distribute to CBs and FBs

    Out of possession - higher D-line and Prevent short GKD

    Thanks a lot !

    the idea of the 4231 was to fit my best player

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