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  1. @zinedremomeri: I remember your 4-4-2 version on FM11 - definitely more chances created in attack and is more adaptable for teams, as it doesn't rely on highly technical inside forwards.

    The main differences from FM11 is the increased closing down and increased creative freedom. I think slight changes have been made to the Tempo, but I can't remember. It's been so long since I've been able to have a decent run on FM.

    Looking forward to a 4-4-2 variation. :thup:

  2. @ibro46: Yes to everything. :thup:

    @ MAGiCK - How are things going regarding a generic version mate? Just curious as to where you at currently.


    Since that weekend I haven't really played FM :(

    But I'm trying to work on the theory of balance/equilibrium. In my mind, if you beat the statistics (shown in the Match Stats) then you'll win the majority of games.

    Using the slider mechanics from post 2, a neutral/balanced position would be 8-11-14 for all Individual settings and 10/11 for the Global settings. But, I want to weight the sliders in order to "overpower" the statistics. So...

    Mentality: Slightly more attacking (11-14-17)

    Creative Freedom: Slightly more creative/expressive (11-14-17)

    Passing: Slightly shorter (5-8-11)

    Closing Down: Slightly more pressing (11-14-17)

    Width: Slightly wider to open up space (14)

    Tempo: Slightly slower to maintain possession (7)

    Time Wasting: Slightly lower (7)

    Defensive Line: Slightly higher to pressure opposition (14)

    Then I'll have to look at individual instructions, i.e. forward runs, through balls, etc.

    This is the priliminary stages of my thinking but I won't be doing anything for a while yet as work is busy. My ambition is to create percentage football. I also expect changes to the slider ranges I've mentioned above once I've began actually testing it.

    Of course, the problem is the variables we can't control, i.e. weather, opposition, injuries, etc. But by dominating the stats we can minimise the effects of the variables and therefore minimise the variance.

    That's my plan anyways :p

  3. @Gee

    I haven't looked at his attributes yet - I'll have a look in a while and then come back.

    I'll give a generic explanation though. See, the good thing about having the High Creative Freedom is the players will adapt the role to suit them. But, I've found they still use the core tactical instructions as a guideline. I'll try and explain comparing Hernandez and Messi - I took this tactic to Man Utd to see how they played with it. I've watched it so much with Barce that I know how they play in the game, but I wanted to compare it with how other players adapt the tactic to fit their game.


    He always drops into the hole virtually becoming an attacking midfielder. From here, he turns and runs at the defence (chaos!) or he plays a through ball to one of the advancing wingers who are now cutting inside to become the 2nd and 3rd forwards.

    Because he’s deep in the hole he will then run forward to get to the end of a cross. Depending on how deep we as a team are, he will either be receiving it on the edge of the area or in the penalty area. Alternatively, the inside forward will have a go at scoring.


    He won’t drop deep into the hole, but he will hold his position in the attacking line and looks to receive the ball to feet. He then plays it to one of the wide men, who are about level with him, or maybe slightly ahead, due to Hernandez being higher up the pitch (doesn’t come deep to get ball). Hernandez is now out of his attacking position because the team has advanced up the pitch, so he then advances to get into his attacking position. This means there is an opportunity for 1/2s to develop between him and the wide men.

    Both of these strikers can work well in the tactic, but they highlight how differently the tactic can play due to the high level of creative freedom. This is just for one position, so imagine the difference in all positions. This isn’t a bad thing, it just means the team will play slightly differently whilst keep the core fundamentals.

    I’m thinking of creating a more generic version of this 4-3-3 which steps away from trying to emulate Barce and instead tries to create a more effective 4-3-3 for varied teams. It will still be based on possession football, but I want to try and maximise efficiency in all areas to create a true version of percentage football. The high levels of creative freedom will allow different teams to adapt to it, but the instructions won’t be so technically extreme or passing restrictive to restrict more player freedom.

    Yeah, I think you’ve encourage me to start having a look at this. :p

  4. Switched to this tactic recently and am loving the football and the change in fortunes for my Berwick Rangers side. I have downloaded the player filters and had a look at them but is there anywhere (maybe a previous thread) which describes what each position is doing? I mainly want this for the three man midfield but if it covers the whole team even better.

    i.e. MCR - Playmaker. He will sit deep and look to play..... needs to be both creative, composed and strong... blah blah blah.


    It's from my original thread and hasn't changed for FM12. :thup:


    Sorry guys, I haven't been on much. Work has been pretty hectic and I haven't had a free weekend for two weeks. I'm hoping this weekend will be free and I'm looking to tweak the tactic to make it more like that found in the EPL.

    @cragswfc: I tried the tactic and liked it. I was having more success with the wide players set to Mixed Forward Runs.

    @countfu@luka: I don't bother tweaking the Time Wasting or Tempo now. The higher Creative Freedom seems to get the players moving the ball quicker if they are being closed down heavily.

    @Elhan: Good results :thup: Thanks for the feedback

  5. [video=youtube_share;bpja7jckj8M]

    my best match so far, not the 7 goals scored but the way they were scored, fantastic team play and individual brilliance.

    the first 2 goals and Pogba's come from a short corner routine which i found elsewhere, first match i used it and its looking good.

    also i tend to swap my players about every 15-20 mins for eg, pur my SC at MCl, left IF to SC...just to keep the AI guessing, but i do have alot of players that can perform i many different positions.

    luvin it so far...


    I'm pleased with how the striker is dropping into the hole and picking out through balls for the wingers which are cutting inside. Currently on a winning streak of 20 games in the League - Real Madrid are faltering slightly :p

  6. i came up against the 3-4-3 has Biesla took over at Chelsea, the defence struggled with drogba, lukaku and torres, still managed to win but apart from that its been very easy ;)

    want to start a new game but can't decide between barcelona or real madrid, with CR7 upfront or Messi...hmmmm

    I'm probably bias, but I'd go with Barce if you want an easy life. Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas as midfielders means you just have to worry about building for the future :p Plus, Real seem to have more attacking midfielders instead of central midfielders. Not sure how Kaka or Ozil would fit into the tactic :confused:

    I've tried buying Ronaldo for Barcelona, he didn't want to come. I'm thinking of buying Silva just for jokes - Villa, Pedro and Sanchez are all quality Inside Forwards to have, but Silva would beat them all. I also bought Otamendi for a Puyol replacement and he's playing really well.

  7. MAGICK - this is working like a dream, football is fantastic to watch. only conceded about 2 goals in 18 games and averaging 3 goals per game.

    is it ok to use the position filters from last year? has my man utd team are in need of a revamp has my IF nani and william are missing too many chances for my liking. thinking of re-training a AMC/SC to play there. maybe hernandez and the mexican carlos ferro who is in my u18 squad.

    excellent stuff!

    Thanks for the feedback.

    The filters should be similar from last year. I'll have a look within the next few days to see if they should be changed. The striker role has similar attributes to the Trequatista (not sure if I've spelt that right :p) and I'd include finishing for the wide players if the filters haven't included them.

    I'm unbeaten in 60 games in the league and won 16 in a row - a record previously held by Real Madrid. Lost 1 game and drawn 3 out of 40 this season. Loss was away to Athletic in the cup, but they are my bogey team as they play a 3-4-3 which pressures the back line a lot and floods the midfield - I still tend to beat them as they leave space open at the back when we counter. We beat them in the return leg and are now in the final.

    P.S. Carlos Fierro is playing nicely for me in the games where I rest Messi. He's averaging around 7.47 and is now being tutored by Messi :thup:

  8. Just started a long term Arsenal save (hopefully..) and plan on using this tactic as part of my "legacy"






    Gylfi Sigurdsson (Playmaker)





    van Persie

    Looking to bring in Romario, Carlos Fierro and Felipe Anderson and try to mould the likes of Chamberlain, Miyachi and Frimpong into this tactic. I loved this tactic last year, the style suits a lot of the players already at Arsenal and after a few very promising pre-season friendlies I look forward to another sucessful game.

    Thanks for all the hard work you put into these excellent tactics, I'll do my best to feedback on this. :thup:

    Thanks...hope it goes well :thup:

  9. magick..could you name for me a striker that suits well with your newest tactic. thx

    These are the attributes I'd look for:







    I also like to have good levels of Teamwork and Determination throughout my team.

    Strikers best suited to this role are the ones who drop deep and receive the ball to feet before either:

    1) Turning and running at the defence

    2) Playing a Through Ball to one of the advancing wingers

    Messi, Rooney, Aguero, C. Ronaldo, Rossi, Pato, Jovetic, Sanchez, Villa, etc.

    These are all world class players so they are difficult to find. But you could always train a youth player, or try to mould a striker into a similar playing style by training Player Preferred Moves, etc.

    P.S. With high levels of Creative Freedom the player you put in will have a greater influence in the way they play that position. Looking at a team like Chelsea, Drogba would be more inclined to hold up the ball and play little one-twos, whereas Torres would be more inclined to receive it to feet, turn and run at the defence.

  10. @ruudvanwarren: I follow this strategy which Marcelo told me.

    The semi-official word on this is that workload only makes you learn tactics slower or faster, but have no effect on gameplay. Special focus on attacking movement, defensive positioning, attacking and defendind set pieces gives you bonuses in these categories for the next match. And teamwork helps your team gel quicker.

    So what I always do is workload very high until tactics are fluid, then very low. And special focus on teamwork until the team is reasonably gelled, then normally attacking movement or defensive positioning, depending on the strength of my team and of the opposition.

    Here's the link to a training thread he gave: http://community.sigames.com/showthr...ep-Masterclass

  11. He looks good! I'm looking for a young CM as I think Xavi has 1 maybe 2 seasons left as a regular after this season. I'll put Fabregas in his role eventually, but I like having young players coming through the ranks so that the transition is nice and smooth when they move into the first team.

    Also, just gone past 51 games in the league without losing :p

    Now that I've mentioned it, I'll probably lose my next game lol.

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