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5 minutes ago, JamesH1993 said:
So there would be no difference to FM performance?
I can get 512 SSD for £860, 1GB SSD for £930 or 256 SSD and 1GB Hard Drive for £880.
I have a big graphics folder on my current laptop and altogether am using about 250GB of memory but that’s me being tight with downloads and moving stuff to D Drive etc.
which out of the three would be better value for money to help FM Processing speeds?
Well it won't affect the general operation of FM, but it will affect saving and loading times. Autosaves can take quite a while and they would be noticeably slower on a hard drive. The loading of the game will also be faster from an SSD. So long as you can install FM and save your games to the SSD the rest would depend on your other requirements for the laptop.
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3 hours ago, JamesH1993 said:
Alternatively I can exchange those 2 for a 512GB Solid State Drive, M.2 2242, PCIe-NVMe, TLC for the same price. Which would work better. a 512GB SSD or a 256GB SSD and 1TB Hard drive??
Like anything it depends. If you're planning to have an extensive games or media library on your laptop then the hard drive would be helpful. If you're just playing FM, browsing the web and maybe doing the odd bit of word processing or similar then you probably will never use more than your 256gb. You might consider even just having the smaller SSD - it should be possible to install a hard drive later if you find that you need it.
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4 hours ago, JamesH1993 said:
Hi guys just wanting some advice/help please.
I’m looking at getting a new laptop and giving my current one to my other half as she needs one for uni and I’ve started playing a lot of football manager while in Quarantine. My budget is £1000.
I currently have a Lenovo ideapad 700, that is intel core i5-6300HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz, 12GB RAM and graphics card is NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX.
If I load England divisions to National League N/S, France, Germany, Italy and Spain all division 1, my processing speed is one star. I appreciate it is difficult to tell what star it would be if I upgraded but wanted to check if the following laptop would be a significant upgrade for the price.
Lenovo Ideapad L340 with Intel core i7-9750H Professor (2.60GHz, up time 4.50GHz with turbo boost, 6 cores 12MB Cache. This would be with 16GB RAM, 1TB hard drive and Nvidia Geforce GTX1650 4GB GDDR5. I have created this on Lenovo’s website and comes out £870, for that price are there any better ones, I just want to process multiple leagues on higher than 1 star really.
Thanks
Hi James, when looking just at the specs Lenovo's Ideapads are very good value and this is a well balanced spec for FM. If you can customise is I would suggest exchanging the hard drive for an SSD or adding an SSD boot drive. You'll notice the speed difference from that more than from the new processor, I reckon.
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13 hours ago, Thomaspeacockx said:
Hi, in my save I am into my 6th season as Hartlepool manager and I’m in the championship. On a lot of my players when I look at their report it is telling me they are league one/two level players but I am currently top of the championship. I know form is a factor and this can happen but even when I was still in league one it would tell me they are at a league 2/national level it’s been happening all save. Changing coaches doesn’t seem to have an impact just wondering if anyone knows why this could be
What it could be is that your staff aren't always right in their judgement. You should base yours on stats, attributes and performances, as well as staff opinions.
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1 hour ago, bigShell1 said:
Oh damn. Thanks for that, I’m glad I asked before I bought lol. That one you linked me..... is that better for running FM over the others then? Goes without saying I want to make sure I get the most bang for my buck. Haven’t played FM in over a decade now and haven’t had a laptop in a very long time
Honestly I didn't put much thought into picking it - not a recommendation. Just to give you an idea of the specifications you might look for at the £500 price point. I would suggest reading a couple of reviews of any laptop you're considering buying. Copy the model number from the store page and search it in Google with the addition of "review". There's always things like the screen or the keyboard which isn't well described by specifications alone.
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1 hour ago, bigShell1 said:
Hi all, I’ve been looking round for some cheap, decent spec laptops, I know that’s hard to come by obviously, but I found these few; anyone with a better idea than me able to let me know if these can run the game? Not too fussed if it’s not lightning fast or if it can handle the 3D gameplay.
Lenovo V145 15.6" Laptop - AMD A9 3.1GHz CPU, 8GB RAM, Windows 10 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07YW4D875/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_uKUTEbGWKSHPV
This is the main one im looking at as it’s the most cost effective. It has a dual 3.1GHz CPU, if my very lacklustre understanding of this is correct then surely that’s at least serviceable? Even though it probs won’t handle the 3D rendering which I’m sure one of you clever folks shall inform me lol.
Terrible, that's several years old. Better to get a Pentium based laptop probably.
1 hour ago, bigShell1 said:If not, is this any good/better?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-Inspiron-3000-Anti-Glare-LED-Backlit-2019-Laptop/dp/B07M741WKD
Getting better but this is still a couple of years old and is a poor value.
1 hour ago, bigShell1 said:EDIT: Just stumbled across this, it is reduced by £200, seems like a naughty little deal, no?
https://www.box.co.uk/81EV005CUK-Lenovo-ideaPad-530s-UltraBook_2756982.html
Thanks in advance, and sorry if I haven’t formatted this correctly, but any help is very much appreciated
This is also 2 years old. You can get current gen i5 laptops for the same price. This for instance: https://www.ebuyer.com/947548-lenovo-v15-core-i5-8gb-256gb-ssd-15-6-win10-home-laptop-82c50075uk?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIh-q7mLin6QIVBbTtCh3oYgBvEAQYCCABEgLVQ_D_BwE
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8 hours ago, CowShedBarmyArmy said:
Leaning towards this
ASUS FX505DD-BQ121T
That's decent, not a bad choice.
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1 hour ago, EdL said:
The motherboard listed there will not run the 4000 series, AMD have confirmed (today, I think) that you will need 5- series up motherboards for 4000 series desktop CPUs
Really, I had not heard that! Well choose a motherboard with a B550 chipset then, @noikeee
Edit: ooh and they have dropped support for the older CPUs. It would have to be a R5 3600 or maybe R3 3300X then!
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1 hour ago, seanstirling said:
I'm looking for a laptop or a desktop that would be able to handle the 125k player limit for a good 40-50 seasons without massively slowing down.
I've sort of spoiled FM for myself by trying it on my old one and it couldnt handle it after 4-5 seasons in but I miss how alive the game feels without having that many players and leagues loaded and I think you can really tell the difference when you go back to a smaller database.
My budget would be around £1000-£1500 but I could push out an extra couple of hundred more for something that will be worth it or last a bit longer.
Within that budget you could get a fantastic laptop or desktop. The best (well, most powerful) laptop processors at the moment are the Ryzen 9 4900 H and HS models. You should be able to find a laptop with the 4900H within your budget. The difference between the two is that the HS is very slightly slower but uses less power. The H may well be better if you're not going to be gaming away from the wall.
For a desktop you should be able to find something even more powerful quite easily. Be wary of pre-build gaming PCs though as they are often priced at a premium. Compare the specs with what you can get from a custom system integrator. If you skimp on the graphics card (more than an Nvidia GTX 1650 super is a total waste for FM) then you should be able to just about fit in a Ryzen 9 3900 or one of the new (though not necessarily better) Intel i9 10th gen CPUs.
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39 minutes ago, noikeee said:
You're making me think I should maybe ditch the HDD, go for the 3600 and then buy a HDD later when I run out of space, it's of course much easier to do that in the future than upgrade the CPU. Or maybe I should just buy a bigger SSD. The issue is for example right now on this laptop I've got a 240GB SDD and I'm really, really struggling with space.
One of the strengths of the AM4 platform (that is, the socket the CPU uses to connect to the motherboard) is that it has been supported across a number of generations. It should also be supported for the 4000 series Ryzen processors. Honestly the jump from the 2600 to the 3600, while noticeable, would be small considering the approx £50 cost. I'd personally consider going with the cheaper processor and wait a couple of years until the 4000 series are being sold off cheap then get one of them. I'd agree with you on the HDD. It's a 10 minute job with a screwdriver to install one.
39 minutes ago, noikeee said:As for wireless/bluetooth, you mean a card that would do both?! I'm struggling to find any that can do that... though yeah I didn't notice I had picked an external network card, I probably should pick an internal one.
Thanks for your help.
The devices you mentioned were both USB meaning you'd have two of your USB ports permanently in use. A single internal PCIe card would be a simpler solution.
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2 hours ago, CowShedBarmyArmy said:
There's a number of different products there. Can you give more info about your requirements and budget?
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2 hours ago, noikeee said:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 - 128,90€
Decent choice, though the more modern Ryzen 5 3600 is available - for more money of course.
2 hours ago, noikeee said:GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 1600 6GB - 234,95€
That's not a real GPU. Do they possibly mean a GTX 1660? That would be more than suitable for FM and will play your racing games too.
2 hours ago, noikeee said:
RAM: GSkill Aegis 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 75,95€
Board: ASUS B450M-PRO Gaming AM4 - 114,95€
SSD: Kingston A400 480GB 6GB/s - 69,95€Sounds reasonable.
2 hours ago, noikeee said:
HDD: Toshiba P300 3TB - 73,94€I wouldn't bother unless you're planning to store a lot of media on this PC.
2 hours ago, noikeee said:Power: LC-Power 550w LC6550 V2.3 - 48,90€
Apparently these power supplies are of questionable quality. I would try to get one from a more reputable manufacturer. It shouldn't cost a great deal more that you've been quoted. 450w would be sufficient.
2 hours ago, noikeee said:
Wireless: TP-LINK USB WI-FI 300MBPS - 11,96€ (there's no LAN cable to my room)
Bluetooth: TP-Link Bluetooth 4.0 Nano USB 2.0 - 9,90€ (my headphones are bluetooth)Can you not get an internal card? It would probably do both wifi and bluetooth. You should be able to get one for around the same price.
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5 hours ago, StevensLFC said:
Hi again @Smurf
Was just about to pre order the cheaper one and noticed the extra £200 also gets you the Ryzen 7 4800HS, which seems to be higher up on notebook check. Is it worth going up in tier for processor and extra RAM or will it not make too much of a difference vs Ryzen 5 4600HS? Hoping that makes sense!
Cheers :-)
The major difference here is that you get 33% more cores and threads. From what I understand that the main part of FM that is parallelized is leagues, so you would see the most difference if you tend to run a lot of leagues. If you only run the top 5 leagues for instance the difference won't be great.
Personally I'd say if you can afford it, go for it. It will mean your laptop is good for another year or so, probably.
The key point of difference of the HS Ryzen CPUs is that they run at 35w rather than 45w with about the same (actually very slightly lower) performance than the regular H chips. They are supposed to be more premium, so if you're considering a laptop with one of these processors it worth checking if there is a cheaper alternative. Of course, if you're planning to game on the go, this could be ideal. Since the battery life is a big selling point, pay particular attention to endurance when reading reviews.
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6 minutes ago, profii said:
I think these laptops are similar but if there is something I've missed please point it out...
I am not as au fait with processors as I used to be, using the link in the OP, the HP seems to be the winner, but the stats seem to indicate the dell is better (...? I could be reading wrong)
I am actually leaning towards the dell due to dedicated GFX for a bit of dabbling with games and the smaller overall device
with both being around £750 is there anything else on the market similarly spec'd and priced? I can't find too many.
It's no wonder you're confused. These are both from the same generation, but the first CPU is a 14nm part and the second is 10nm. The 14nm ones tend to clock higher (better for FM) but the 10nm ones have enhanced integrated graphics. In fact, the graphics for the two systems are probably about equivalent. I would still go for the first though due to the higher clocking CPU.
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1 hour ago, StevensLFC said:
Nice one thanks Smurf. Do you think the extra £200 for 16GB RAM & 120hz display is worth it for FM?
High refresh rate is actually bad for FM because it uses more power resulting in shorter battery life. Then again, if you are getting a gaming laptop that might not be a concern for you.
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4 minutes ago, Simon_PNE said:
Thanks for the reply Gangor.
I should have been more specific - 1st division in Spain, Germany, Italy and France.
You raise a good point. Are there any ultrabooks that you think are suitable for FM20 and the next few years of FM.Would you think an i7 is a must, or an i5 would still be ok for the next few years?
Are the graphics cards better on ultrabooks than 2in1s?
Thanks
No, the typical compromises are on the hinge which on a 2 in 1 has to rotate right around so it's not as rigid and the cooling as they usually have a smaller form factor than ultrabooks. Inferior cooling would affect the performance of the processor compared to a better cooled system using the same parts.
For just the top 5 leagues you'd be fine with a i5 ultrabook I'd say. If you can afford it an i7 would be nice but not needed imo. Look for an i5 (or Ryzen 5), 8GB of RAM and an SSD of some sort (that should be standard these days in any case). If there's a choice go for a 1080p monitor as 4K does very little for FM and drains your battery faster. Budget should be between £500 and £800 depending on how premium in terms of build quality you're wanting to go.
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3 minutes ago, Simon_PNE said:
Hello,
I am looking at getting a new 2in1 laptop (mainly for my commute and so my wife can use it instead of us getting a seperate tablet).
I'd like to run the UK and European leagues but not too bothered about 3d graphics.
I'm not tech savvy in the slightest.
Would the following run FM 20 and FM for the next few years (ideally the yoga c740 would be my 1st choice as it's cheapest)!
Thank you!!
Well that's quite a wide range. One thing you should consider is whether it is a good idea to get one device for two tasks. Firstly you will pay a premium for the flexibility. Secondly, it won't be as good either as a laptop (though modern 2 in 1s are getting better in this regard) or as a tablet. If your wife just wants to watch movies in bed and maybe read the odd e-book, you might be both better off if she gets something like a Kindle tablet and you an ultrabook.
In terms of the spec required, what do you mean by "European leagues"? There are a lot to choose from...
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4 hours ago, Snorks said:
Here's two that I am looking at, one is a refurb but half the price:
SPECIFICATIONS
HP Pavilion
Processor: 2.3GHZ AMD Ryzen 7 3750H Quad Core Mobile Processor with Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics Memory: 16GB DDR4-2400 Storage: 256GB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX1650 Graphics with 4GB GDDR5 OR:
Manufacturer: HP
Model: EliteBook 8560p
Type: Laptop
Processor: Intel Core i7(2nd Gen) 2620M 2.70GHz (Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz)
Memory Size: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM
Storage: 240GB SSD
Graphics Processor: RADEON R7 M265/M365X/M465
I am probably leaning more toward the first on at the moment, mainly for the extra RAM and I think a better Graphics capability.
Again, I am looking to get better processing speed when playing FM. Currently, my machine seems painfully slow (AMD A10 w/Radeon graphics) and when playing in 3D it overheats and shuts down regularly. (I have had it a good few years now though)
Thoughts?
The refurbished one is around 10 years old. It would be a potato.
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27 minutes ago, disaccharide said:
Hi, I've been saving up for quite sometimes now, so the budget isn't really a problem. I'm looking for something like gaming ultrabook that I can play FM on while at home and portable enough that I can bring it with me to work in some cafes or co-working spaces. My home space is pretty limited, so no chance of building a PC at this moment and in a foreseeable future. I think this new Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 comes close.
This is the model available in my area. https://notebookspec.com/notebook/10057-Asus-ROG-Zephyrus-G14-GA401II-HE046T.html
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS (2.90 GHz up to 4.20 GHz, 8 MB L3 Cache)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti (4GB GDDR6)
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200 MHz
Storage: 512 GB SSD PCIe M.2
Weight: 1.60 kgNormally I run like top division of 25 nations with extra players from Europe and South America. That's close to 100k. I play on HP ENVY 13 2016. It has Intel Core i7-6500U (2.50 GHz, 4 MB L3 Cache, up to 3.10 GHz), with SSD and 8 GB RAM. I still had time back then with FM17 and 18. But with FM20, I don't have time to wait for the loading screen after hitting continue anymore. lol. Also, I don't care about 3D engine. 2D Classic ftw.
Would this new Asus be more than enough to accompany me until around FM25 or maybe FM26 max? Or are there any better choices for lightweight gaming laptop?
Apart from FM, I only play Banished from time to time. It can run fine on my HP Envy. Apart from these two games, I do light-duty tasks like normal email work stuff, casual Internet browsing, Netflix and YouTube, you name it. So my main concern here is only FM.
Thanks
If that price (39990 Baht) and Google's exchange rate is correct that's amazing value. Especially for FM - very well balanced.
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3 minutes ago, Edmondo44 said:
Hi guys
I’ve recently purchased a decent laptop (HP Pavilion 15 Gaming), everything is brilliant apart from the battery. I appreciate it’s got a dedicated GPU but even disabled and with all energy efficient settings on it barely lasts 2 hours.
I’m looking for the following with at least a 6 hour battery for FM20 - I just wondered if you might be able to assist? Budget is £700~
• Core i5-8th
• 8GB RAM
• 256GB SSD
• Full HD Screen
Cheers,
Matt
Hi Matt, before you go buying a new system, try some of the following:
- Change the power management options in your control panel to reduce power consumption
- Reduce the refresh rate of your screen, if possible.
- Turn down the brightness.
- If you're really keen look at if it's possible to undervolt your CPU and/or GPU.
The bottom line though is that gaming laptops aren't designed for long battery life. If you decide to get a new one pop into the appropriate thread for some advice.
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This is just a minor suggestion, but it would add a nice bit of emersion. When you're setting up your manager and choosing languages, you can set your proficiency in different languages. I'm not sure exactly how this works in FM, but I'm going to guess a 1-20 scale? It would be nice to be able to say that I'm a 2 in French and Japanese and a 5 in German to reflect my past studies rather than having to say I'm either 0 or 20.
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You might try adjusting the agreed playing time for your squad. After a couple of promotions you've probably got a bunch of players who were important but are now backups.
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53 minutes ago, HopOnBaby said:
Sounds good, thanks! I think my head was slightly turned by the prospect of 20GB of RAM!
While more RAM is helpful in some situations, it's far more important to have a balanced specification so no one part is so poor that it slows down the others. On a £5-600 budget you should be targeting 8GB of RAM and an i5 or Ryzen 5 'U' type processor (or maybe one of the Ice Lake processors which end with "G1", G3" etc). If you can spend £7-800 you should be able to find an entry level gaming laptop which will still have an i5 or Ryzen 5, but it will be an 'H' type meaning it uses more power to produce higher clock speeds and consequently better performance. A gaming laptop will also have a discrete GPU meaning the 3D match engine will run better and you'll be able to play other 3D games.
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19 minutes ago, HopOnBaby said:
What's up, party people? So, after eight years, my PC is giving out - keep getting memory crashes. Just manually tweaked the virtual memory and it's behaving a bit better, but I wouldn't mind something with more power.
After looking at some guides, this seems to tick most of the boxes for FM, but could it do the job for some more graphic-intensive god games? Top budget about £800.
Within that budget entry level gaming laptops will be available which would perform much better both for FM and more demanding games.
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The Ryzen 5 3500 is a desktop SKU and will naturally be more powerful than a laptop one. That said the 3500U (the CPU in the laptop mentioned) will still be a lot faster than the A8 I would say