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On 21/04/2024 at 09:38, Delicate Dave said:
As I said before I would always go the processor before the graphics. Most people seem to want to run all the leagues, that needs a fast processor. The problem with only having 500 euro (£430) is your likely to be looking at processors that are around old stock. For that reason, I would recommend the second-hand market where you'll get a better price for the same thing. You can shop for processor & GPU combinations and maybe have some spare cash left to up the memory or SSD card even.
Purely as an example - this is what I use now, it's old but I can load all the leagues playable. Yes, there is a short lag but only when moving from day to day when it's calculating the results around the world. Ignore the price, you can get this model for less than 200 euro - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/384905970595 What you could do is go on MSI website and and look for the next versions of this till you hit one you can afford. Just an idea.@josuts just to clarify, the performance of the processor on that link is about 30-40% slower than that of a modern Ryzen 5 or i5 in a £500 laptop. Yes it was top of the line when released, but that was almost a decade ago.
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1 hour ago, josuts said:
i live in Greece:-)
The European retailer I'm most familiar with is Mediamarkt, so I looked up their Greek site, which redirected me to Public.gr. No idea if they are representative of local pricing, but from what I can see 500 euros is likely to buy you a modest i5 or Ryzen 5 laptop with 8gb of RAM and no dedicated GPU. This would run FM24 just fine, particularly the Ryzen models which have superior integrated GPUs which will be better able to handle the 3d match engine. I suspect however that this would be a sub-optimal experience for FM25 as it moves to a new engine with improved visuals. At about 700 euros you can get a basic gaming laptop with a faster processor and a dedicated GPU which, while certainly not top of the line, will be much more likely to manage FM25 competently. If you don't mind the second hand market, it might be worth looking out for low end gaming laptops which are a couple of years old which may fit more into your budget.
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On 11/04/2024 at 15:24, noikeee said:
Why is half my squad given "squad rotation" status unhappy midseason when I'm literally starting them 50% of the matches (plus coming from the bench in other matches).
Why are my players demanding "star player" status and not even happy with "important player" when there's tons of competition for the position and then expect to start 90% of matches (which would run them into the ground)
Why are kids from lower level that I'm trying to sign demanding "star player" status and refuse to even consider "important player"
Why does half my squad get pissed off whenever I can't appease a player
Why do the players I want to leave the club, come ask for more playing time, I say well I want to sell you then, and then they decide oh that's ok I don't want to leave the club then I'll wait for more playing time (and get unhappy every x months again)
Why are B team players knocking at my door asking for playing time, I don't even know who you are, **** off
I'd guess most of these issues are because the players' reputations are higher than the club's. They come about because humans tend to be better at squad building than the AI so will often have a better squad than the club "deserves". I don't see that as the problem - if the AI just became better at squad building this would be less of an issue
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1 hour ago, jamjam said:
Looking at getting a laptop mainly for FM that should run Fm25 when it's out. Budget of £500. Thinking about getting this as seems like decent value https://www.samsung.com/uk/computers/galaxy-book/galaxy-book2-pro/buy/?cid=UK_PPC_4559977276_ID~GLB00056JX_CN~Brand-Prod-Galaxy-Book2-Pro_PR~gb2p_SB~pcl_PH~on_KS~bap_MK~gb_OB~conv_FS~hobl_FF~-_ID~GLE000CH6C_AG~Price_AT~stads_MD~h_PK~roah_PB~gos_PL~goads_CH~search_FF~-&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiMmwBhDmARIsABeQ7xTpuNZDO-nnqHQ6SrQIDkcEGajrinkWtQerm0u7qQKGjwlcJVTGMnQaAuBBEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Are there better options / should I be looking for 16gb ram.
Before knowing what the requirements are for FM25 I would be hesitant to choose a laptop without a discrete GPU or less than 16Gb of RAM. If that's a firm budget you might consider looking for a laptop with the AMD Ryzen 6800u processor either refurbished or second hand. It still won't have a dGPU but AMD's integrated GPUs are significantly better than Intel's and would be more likely to manage the new game. Most laptops with this processor were also equipped with 16Gb of RAM. It's also possible you might find an 11th or 12th gen i5 (or AMD equivalent) paired with a RTX 3050 for around that price on the second hand market.
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8 hours ago, waltonyeah said:
Hello
After a number of quiet years, I'm looking to resume my FM addiction.
How does this laptop which has appeared on Argos for £329 fare?
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3267651
On the face of it a 12th gen i5 processor, 8gb ram etc sounds good for that price; is there a catch?
I'd literally use it for FM and at a push a Civ game once in a while.
Keeping in mind that this laptop is a couple of years old at this point, it's decent value. It should be fine with FM24 but I suspect it will struggle with FM25 due to the lack of a dedicated graphics processor.
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I would like to see a more efficient sorting algorithm for the player and staff search lists
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20 hours ago, HarryT99 said:
I'm looking to get back into FM after a few years out, I'd like to get a laptop under £700 but could go for a mini PC instead if the increase in performance is dramatic.
I tend to play with medium databases running most of the top leagues but I would really like to do a decent journeyman save. I like to play in 2d with 3d replays. I appreciate fm25 will likely be more gpu intensive so would like to prepare although I doubt I'll move away from 2D as I just love it.
All advice and recommendation welcome, thank you in advance.
If you want to go the mini PC route this is a good option - of course you'd still need to add a monitor, keyboard etc that you wouldn't need with the laptop. The processor on this is more powerful than on the laptop Kev suggests, but it relies on integrated graphics which, while perfectly fine for FM24 and likely adequate for FM25 are weaker than the dedicated GPU on the laptop.
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Of more concern I'd have thought is the readiness of the AI to accept sell on clauses being added in on players the human sells. They hardly seem to value them at all
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29 minutes ago, Mr.e said:
It,s not that he has a low passing % but when i use that role majority of the opposition highlights come from his misplaced passes. But i do understand what your saying.
Maybe move your playmaker to a more advanced area so if he gives the ball away it's in a less dangerous area and more men are behind the ball.
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8 hours ago, JawKam said:
Oh, definitely not, but appreciate the concern!
Work needs require a Macbook for daily tasks, though I would love to have FM in mind before purchase so I could have a good experience when I am laid back on a couch.
If you can get the 16GB version you'll have a better all around experience, especially as the RAM has to be shared with the GPU.
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3 hours ago, JawKam said:
Hello all,
Could someone give me an idea how well/how many leagues I can reasonably run with the latest M3 Macbook Air specifications? I'm looking at purchasing the 15" 8-Core CPU 10-Core GPU 8GB Unified Memory. Would having 16GB significantly help run the game better?
Thanks for the help!
A Macbook is overkill if you're just playing FM. 8GB will however hold back performance so 16 would be preferable. If it's just for FM you might however be better off to consider a Windows laptop
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3 hours ago, Mr Adam said:
Would this laptop be okay for running the game in commentary only? Large database, 8 countries.
You could easily run the 3D match engine with this laptop.
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1 hour ago, Thiago Kalil said:
I like researching players described by the press as prodigies. Is there a way to apply a filter and directly search for prodigy players?
No but there are loads of wonderkid shortlists you can download
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3 hours ago, Perrypj said:
Just out of interest, do you think any MacBook’s out at the moment would be good for FM25?
The Apple silicon processors have pretty powerful integrated graphics. I would be surprised if they were inadequate for FM25
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This is a rather minor thing, but surely easy to fix too.
I prefer to play in Windowed mode, however whenever I download a new patch it is changed back to full screen. While not the end of the world I find this annoying. Please can preferences be left alone when patches are installed.
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Just now, Tha Real behanger said:
Ok so 16gb and just a fast processor? I only play on text so graphic card isnt really important.
With the caveat that FM25 is going to be on a new engine which may well require a dedicated graphics card.
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2 minutes ago, steve.battisti said:
Thanks very much for your help!
Just curious, when it comes to "simming," is there a consensus on what has the biggest impact on simulation time - CPU vs memory vs disk speed, etc.? Main reason I ask is because I like to do games where I sim significantly into the future. That's really difficult with my current setup unless I only load like 3-5 leagues. (Last night I did a save with 14 leagues, left it to sim overnight, and only made it a year into the future.)
Having enough memory is important, but 16GB is sufficient. Past that the biggest impact is the CPU. Disk speed doesn't matter except for when saving the game
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22 minutes ago, AbleAardvark said:
what graphics setting would it run smoothly on at a max?
A 2050 ought to be able to run FM24 on high, but I would expect that not to be the case for FM25
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49 minutes ago, steve.battisti said:
Awesome, thank you!
Just curious, I noted that this has 16 GB of RAM. Is that still, like, a decent amount of RAM? I had thought that 10 years down the road machines would commonly have more memory than that?
FM runs just fine with 16GB of RAM and this is currently a standard specification for most mid range and some higher range PCs. Going forward 32GB will probably become standard but given how long it took to go from 8 to 16 I would expect this to be some way in the future.
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1 hour ago, AlfyDoor said:
Regrettably this proved a false dawn. Started to shake and wheeze on match replays. The suppliers say
"Thank you for clarifying, I had a hunch that would be it! While the laptop you purchased does meet the minimum requirements for FM it does not meet the needs to watch matches. FM is deceptive in that you can play it on rather basic laptops as long as you only play it like a database/text format game. As soon as you want to watch matches you would require something with dedicated graphics. The reason the screen breaks/flickers is because it cannot handle this portion of the game."
How about this? It's a desktop. but that's ok. Description says it can run FM22!
https://www.stonerefurb.co.uk/stone-core-gaming-pc
Cheers
I reckon the 1030 would be an improvement on 11th gen integrated graphics, but not by much. This is an entry level card released the best part of a decade ago. This is probably about as good as you'll get for this price but if you can save up a bit more you could hope for something a lot better
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1 minute ago, Gangor said:
I hope they have pre-installed Windows for you given they don't provide a licence. If not you'll need to get a friend to put the installation image on a thumb drive for you
no, no...silly me. They just offer the ability to for some reason pay more to have Windows 10
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1 hour ago, AlfyDoor said:
Have gone for the £300 one, Will let you know! Many Thanks for your help. Much appreciated
I hope they have pre-installed Windows for you given they don't provide a licence. If not you'll need to get a friend to put the installation image on a thumb drive for you
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1 hour ago, kerrdavidson95 said:
Thanks for the prompt response. For whatever reason I’ve been pretty much limiting my search to i7-12 series CPUs, particularly when there is only a £40 price difference in the i5 version of the Acer Nitro linked in the previous post. But is there any value to be had elsewhere with going for an i5 CPU instead of an i7?
CPU is more important for FM. A modern i5 will be fine for FM, but the i7 ought to be better. AMD equivalents are also worth considering.
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29 minutes ago, kerrdavidson95 said:
Looking to replace my 8-year-old MacBook Pro (Intel chip) but feel I’ve been priced out of the Apple range now… so have unearthed these choices. Will be using for work also, but I tend to play on 2D classic with around 100,000 players loaded, albeit more recently only been loading leagues from the country I’ve been managing in. Any advice on this one at all?
The Amazon one is more laptop for your money, but then the GPU is overkill for FM, even in 3D
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Well no, but as anyone can see I don't make the claim you're implying. I said "much more likely". Personally I'd be shocked if an FM was released in the next few years that didn't work at least on low detail settings with a laptop 2050. Given historical hardware targets for this series I don't think that's an unreasonable point of view.