xiaoicy Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 tyler.. what i meant was can u help out for the ST who is low rating every match? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Chea!! We had 15-9 shots, 5-2 on goal 2-0 CCCs and 56% possession. Dominated!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 And the league table thus far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Crespo11 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 hi Tyler. is it possible to train Kaka to an FC and use him in the AM/FC possition? tnx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I agree the tactics is great, I got great results with it, the only problem is that any team that I play against Dominates most of the game, no matter home or away, even smaller teams. is this correct???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efenberg Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 how to for striker scoring in game tyler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nen Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 And the league table thus far With v5??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 V4 and V5, although I start all games with V4 now because it seems to be more consistent. If I cannot create any or feel we're getting dominated, I switch to V5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nen Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 away v4 also? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Seba Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Code could you tell us your approach to team talks please (especially pre match) do you give one? , just i'm having a few problems with Wolves in the prem using version 4 especially defensively you seem to be flying, also is Podolski the striker with the backward arrow? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 28, 2009 Author Share Posted March 28, 2009 hi Tyler. is it possible to train Kaka to an FC and use him in the AM/FC possition? tnx Yes. Should be great. Let us know how it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty bison Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Why does V5 - the one you switch to if you're losing - have Time Wasting: Often? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Code could you tell us your approach to team talks please (especially pre match) do you give one? , just i'm having a few problems with Wolves in the prem using version 4 especially defensively you seem to be flying, also is Podolski the striker with the backward arrow? Thanks. I'm using tyler's approach also. I think the strong company through the team is a big factor, so make sure your players blend well together, this gave me insane results - especially for the defense. I assigned 12 friendly matches in Pre-Season I think with friendly matches between some games only to make sure they blend well together. Also it is important to have a strong striker on the left, because he has much heading opportunities in match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nen Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I do not know how much you do to win ... Stuttgart-Hoffenheim 2-3 B. Munich-Stuttgart 0-1 Stuttgart-W.Bremen 1-1 Colonia-Stuttgart 2-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmufc Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I play with PSV Eindhoven.. Played 11 games in the Eredivisie. 9 win, 1 drew(NEC) and 1 loss(Heerenveen). Win against Feyenoord(2-0). Scored 19 goals and only conceded 4 goals. Number 2 AZ is 7 points behind me In Champions League i draw a poule with Manchester United, Olympique Marseille and Fiorentina. Started with a 1-0 win against Fiorentina. Loss 1-4 against ManU, 1-1 and 0-3 loss against Marseille. In Dutch Cup two easy games. 5-0 against the reserves of Ajax and 3-1 against first divisions FC Eindhoven Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Tyler! Is you trainning good, çause I'm having a lot of injuries through the season and I think it may be because of my trainning schedule. What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magaca Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Wow Tyler, you've got to help me. I am really successfull at home with you're V4 tactic, but no matter if i use V5 or V4 i underachieve away. I'm playing with Tottenham btw. Any chance you could help me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoicy Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 hmm tyler can u ans to my post #801? i tink i have ask that question abt 3 times already.. thx.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 actually i got this problem too.. my striker hardly score goal.. even if they score, they r from 20yards onwards... then i start to tweak abit of tyler tactic and it helps abit.. but my striker on the left side always will have low rating..tyler can u help out on this? Read this: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=114794 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 hmm tyler can u ans to my post #801? i tink i have ask that question abt 3 times already.. thx.. Sorry xiaoicy but I answered you quickly the 1st time and forgot to put the link in that I put in the post above. Have a read through that first. This proves that world class ST's will get a maximum of 1 goal in 2 games, while most others will get 1:3 or 1:4 goal ratio. I have tried many different variations with my tactics for the 2 forward players and have found these stats to be true. I will continue to try to make a tactic that the ST can score more, maybe 1:1. However, I don't know if this is possible with the limits SI have placed on the ST's scoring. What I would say is that my tactics create a lot of chances for the MC's to score. So try to play MC's who have good long shots, finishing and composure. If you look at Lampard and Gerrard's goals over the last 4 seasons, it shows that the MC's can actually be the top scorers. Hope this helps xiaoicy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hi folks. I've made a couple of changes to the Opening Post if you want to have a peek. Thanks again for all the feedback. I am taking it all into consideration for the V6 tactic that I hope will be available in 2 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foozle Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I think the main problem I'm having is conceding to many. My defenders and keeper are solid, they have all the attributes you reccomend so not sure what to do really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarinet Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hi, I will make a summary of my save with Benfica (January 09), which have obtained great results, using Tyler_bode v4 táctic: Transfers: Summary of matches: Portuguese League: UEFA Cup-Group E: 26 games, all victories; 76 goals scored; 9 goals conceded Amazing no?? Congratulations and thank you Tyler_bode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 for home difficult game, i use v4 or v5??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew56 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 v4 is the best got promotion from serie c with gulainova and now i am figthing for serie a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 for home difficult game, i use v4 or v5??? I would say always start with V4 home and away. If you are losing in 2nd half, try V5. Some have had great comebacks doing this. V4 is the original and best overall, but V5 has a place when losing or being outplayed by superior opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIunit Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I am currently using this tactic (v4) for Milan. Before starting the season, I really thought this tactic makes a lot of sense when you look at it. I don't know because most people have success with this tactic seemingly instantly, in my case it always have take me a while for my team to really get used to it and succeed. For example in 9.0.1 I was managing liverpool with a tactic (role-theory I think?) it took me a whole season and then some to become the dominant team in the league. So, so far in this Milan, things also did not start off in a good fashion. I'll admit this Milan squad was not that suited for 4-4-2, for example they don't even have wingers to begin with. However, I pulled some transfers and got a few players. Most notably Cani who could be a good winger, and Ronaldinho plays the other winger. Yes I know they are not technically wingers but really, they are technically good enough to play wingers with ease. i also got Owen to bolster my strike force. Long words short I will get into the matches. I will roughly describe what are some common scenarios. 1. First off a problem same as others have start to appear (I think Aachen-something i think? sorry mate forgot your name) The problem is that the MCs stay TOO far back and REALLY do not attack opposition midfield with the b-arrows on them. This causes all sort of problems as the AI midfield run riot. AI score some ridiculous long range piledrivers. And this happens on a regularly enough situation to really F me over all time. My solution to this? I remove the b-arrows and make MC close down a bit further. This really seems to solve the problem. 2. My left ST absolutely does not score ( or does anything much for that matter lol) I mean I have played Pato, Owen, Boriello, Inzaghi in this position and they flopped so badly that i feel its a shame to have such talented individuals play such useless role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIunit Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 What it is, is that the left ST stay too close to the AI Centerback, and therefore cannot do anything with a ball when they receive ( which they rarely receive). My FC Kaka, though is performing very good, scored 19 goals in 23 apps, and the reason he scores is that he drops back to receive the ball, and his dribbling allows him to get past defenders, but the thing that make him perform so good is his preferred moves. Placed shot make him shoot to the corners of the goal, try long shot + killer ball often make him do perform one touch longshots all the time which he scores alot of them. So far I have no idea how to fix my striker force, I mean it was not for Kaka's amazing attributes ( and the fact that he actually fit perfectly into this role) I really think Milan will get owned so bad. (Currently I am in 6th in serie A and didn't even make past UEFA cup group stage) So I was wondering if anyone has faced similar problems? and if so can Tylerbode or anyone can help me to see if there is any solution to my problem? The main thing Iam look to solve is how to make my ST score? I mean honestly I have tried alot of settings but none of them worked. Maybe someone know a setting for ST from other successful tactics and maybe can help me? Also I hope I could start a discussion on the MCs not pressing enough with their b-arrows, because if ur team have all the possession then make b-arrows work, but if they manage to retain possession you're really screwed. thanks a bunch, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 So I was wondering if anyone has faced similar problems? and if so can Tylerbode or anyone can help me to see if there is any solution to my problem? The main thing Iam look to solve is how to make my ST score? I mean honestly I have tried alot of settings but none of them worked. Maybe someone know a setting for ST from other successful tactics and maybe can help me? Also I hope I could start a discussion on the MCs not pressing enough with their b-arrows, because if ur team have all the possession then make b-arrows work, but if they manage to retain possession you're really screwed.thanks a bunch, Hi SIunit. Thankyou for you're feedback. As you have said so many people are having success with this tactic. However, I'm sure me and others will help you to share in this by overcoming some of the problems you seem to be having. Ok, firstly can you send me the first 11 of you're team. Also have you updated to 9.3.0 and have you followed the opening post guide closely? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacedaemonian Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Heard great stuff about this, Tyler. Will give it a whirl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIunit Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Hi SIunit. Thankyou for you're feedback. As you have said so many people are having success with this tactic. However, I'm sure me and others will help you to share in this by overcoming some of the problems you seem to be having. Ok, firstly can you send me the first 11 of you're team. Also have you updated to 9.3.0 and have you followed the opening post guide closely? Cheers Yes, My starting lineup is: Gk: Abbiati DR: Zambrotta DL: Janvuluski DC(L): Nesta DC ®: Senderos ML: Ronaldinho MR: Arteta/Cani MC: Flamini MC: Pirlo ST: Owen/Inzaghi (Pato out injured) FC: Kaka As you can see my first 11 is not bad at all. I am using the 9.3.0 version. Everything in the opening post was followed except for the b-arrows on the MC for reason as I mentioned earlier it gave too much room to opp. midfield. I think most of the time the tactic work quite well in the fact that i usually get more possession and such. The main problem though is the only person scoring is Kaka in the FC role, if he is out then nobody can seem to score (and I more often than not lose the game). Many games I was able to win or draw only because of the corner trick where my DC head in a goal. What I would like though is to make the strikers score regularly. thanks for the response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenom84 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 got a question whats with the two barrow mc ? can amc or those pure mc excel in them ? & can my strikers(position=striker) play in the barrow FC role ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoicy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 thx for ur advice n guide for my question.. i saw ur topic and i get what u mean.. but sometime low rating make my ST/FC perform much weaker.. they suffer from goal drought for at least 300 min to 500 min or more.. haha... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoicy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 got a question whats with the two barrow mc ? can amc or those pure mc excel in them ? & can my strikers(position=striker) play in the barrow FC role ?? those MC with b-arrow in my view is just for helping out in the defending if u r facing difficult away game or against those strong team... AMC and MC or even DMC with long shot can excel into the MC position... as MC in tyler r those who score alot then ST/FC. anyway u can check on the OP for more information.. and for ur 2nd question, ST can play in the FC position.. as long as they fit into the optimized requirement posted in the OP as well... hope this can help u abit.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 thx for ur advice n guide for my question.. i saw ur topic and i get what u mean.. but sometime low rating make my ST/FC perform much weaker.. they suffer from goal drought for at least 300 min to 500 min or more.. haha... There definately seems to be a problem for the left ST in FM09. No matter what I do, he has poorer rating than the right ST. I could play Aguerro on the left and a player like Dean Windass would get a better rating with exactly the same instructions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarge Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 hi Tyler. is it possible to train Kaka to an FC and use him in the AM/FC possition? tnx Ive managed to retrain Steven Gerrard to play that position. Kaka should be great in that position. Someone else managed to retrain Lampard as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoicy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 yueah no choice we might hv the wait for V 9.4 haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Ok folks, I wouldn't normally do this but since working on V6 (Piranha), I believe I have uncovered something very special. Here is a sneak preview: Man Utd - http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p122/tylerbode/hull-manu.jpg Lille - http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p122/tylerbode/hull-lille.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9inarowhoops Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Tyler your nothing but a teaser teaser teaser ,2 weeks is a long time to wait mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Tyler your nothing but a teaser teaser teaser ,2 weeks is a long time to wait mate Not heard from you in a while mate. How you getting on with the tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9inarowhoops Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Up and down mate,sticking with V4 at the moment you just cant beat it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaffaz Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Tyler, which tactics of yours do you suggest to use with my team? I have a low low team, italian second division (c2). p.s. patch 9.3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade25 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 All I can say is WOW! Just beat Real Madrid away with Dundee United! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 All I can say is WOW! Just beat Real Madrid away with Dundee United! Great stuff Blade25. What tactic did you use and could you post a screenshot please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Tyler, which tactics of yours do you suggest to use with my team?I have a low low team, italian second division (c2). p.s. patch 9.3 Stick with V4 and change to V5 when losing home or away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Piranha update: Arsenal - http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p122/tylerbode/hull-arsenal.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThE BoMBeR Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 wow... really excited about the new tactic... Also I have a question about the MC... Both MC are defense minded right? so I think it is better to have MC/DMC players playing in the MC spot rather than MC/AMC players. Or am I wrong? For example would Veloso MC on the left) and Flamini (MC on the right) work good together? Btw using V4 and V5 if loosing as instructed in OP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 wow... really excited about the new tactic...Also I have a question about the MC... Both MC are defense minded right? so I think it is better to have MC/DMC players playing in the MC spot rather than MC/AMC players. Or am I wrong? For example would Veloso MC on the left) and Flamini (MC on the right) work good together? Btw using V4 and V5 if loosing as instructed in OP An AMC, MC or DMC can do the job as it calls for players who are allrounders. Eg. Cahill, Fazio, Skjelbred, Pirlo and Lampard could all play in MC. Attributes are the main thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThE BoMBeR Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 An AMC, MC or DMC can do the job as it calls for players who are allrounders. Eg. Cahill, Fazio, Skjelbred, Pirlo and Lampard could all play in MC. Attributes are the main thing. Flamini has: Passing 18 Tackling 18 Positioning 17 Teamwork 20 Work Rate 20 Long Shots 16 In theory according to your OP he would be suitable for the MC spot. Btw I am Juve beginning of 4th season so money ain't a problem.. I just want a world class player at the MC spot to fit your tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_bode Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Flamini has:Passing 18 Tackling 18 Positioning 17 Teamwork 20 Work Rate 20 Long Shots 16 In theory according to your OP he would be suitable for the MC spot Flamini is perfect. How is he performing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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