jod123 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I've finished Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United(which took A LOT of work) and Wigan.Seeing as the new Wiki has been made by all of us, should we change the introduction a bit? At the moment it says I think the second sentence needs changing a little, to give us all a little credit instead of just peter. Who fully deserves the credit, fwiw, for creating the first one. Also about the home page. Do we want to change it to make it look not like Wikipedia but have it laid out with not just a list of articles? For example have coloured boxes with the text in them, a header at the top with Welcome to FMWiki or something? And then have links to different sections up there or whatever? If you have a look at Wikipedia's home page, you will see a bit about what I mean. Just throwing out some ideas for if not now for trying to improve the layout when we feel we need to. EDIT: Just saw snootyjim's post. Panels was the word I wanted instead of boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Ok, MLS page all updated on the new site. Hope to make some individual team pages, along with individual player FM wiki pages for MLS players in the near future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 The Premier League page is really starting to do well, all guides I have been given permission for have been done. I may make some player guides, but I'm not sure yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jod123 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 If anyone has a look at my user page on the wiki, you will see a banner. That was something I was thinking of to start of with on the home page. Obviously it can be changed colour wise, text wise and so on and I just threw in a few links. What do people think of something like that? Oh yeah I meant to say about this on the last wiki and I forgot. I never knew Sunderland was Sunderland Athletic. Is that right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 If anyone has a look at my user page on the wiki, you will see a banner. That was something I was thinking of to start of with on the home page. Obviously it can be changed colour wise, text wise and so on and I just threw in a few links. What do people think of something like that?Oh yeah I meant to say about this on the last wiki and I forgot. I never knew Sunderland was Sunderland Athletic. Is that right? Their full name is Sunderland Athletic Football Club. Do you think I should change it to just Sunderland? If you search for Sunderland it comes up anyway, as a redirected page. Still, if you think it would be better as just Sunderland then it's no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snootyjim Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Yeah I chucked in the redirect for that very reason... I think we should stick with official names for the club pages though, it looks a bit more professional and is more consistent if you know what I mean. As for the home page, I think something like this or this could be good. As they're examples of gamewikis I thought they might be a good place to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jod123 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Their full name is Sunderland Athletic Football Club. Do you think I should change it to just Sunderland? If you search for Sunderland it comes up anyway, as a redirected page. Still, if you think it would be better as just Sunderland then it's no problem. Another Wiki - Wikipedia has this: Sunderland Association Football Club are a professional association football club based in Sunderland, Tyne and Wear, England, that compete in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
small Mac Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I've finished Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United(which took A LOT of work) and Wigan.Seeing as the new Wiki has been made by all of us, should we change the introduction a bit? At the moment it says I think the second sentence needs changing a little, to give us all a little credit instead of just peter. Who fully deserves the credit, fwiw, for creating the first one. Really good work there arsenal_2111. Just a tiny point, the second last sentence on the disclaimers read "...I can not guarentee that the below is the exact ..." It should say 'above'. Oh and you spelt guarantee wrong I agree, but I think to be honest the whole front page / introduction could probably do with gutting.Eventually it would be nice to see a structured page with various panels like you would for a typical gamewiki, and all of that type of information from above could be moved into its own 'About Wiki' page or similar. Hence, maybe it's better to leave it for now, and wait until there's something more substantial in the way of pages whose links can then be used to populate the main page? Yes I agree with this also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snootyjim Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Another Wiki - Wikipedia has this: That's that sorted then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snootyjim Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I've got to get on with fixing my dad's laptop so I'm done for the night. Will pop back next time I have a few free minutes, there must be tonnes of content we can add to this thing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jod123 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Anyway, I am off to bed. Glad you liked the banner snooty_jim. What you think of the panel that I have now on my page? It is similar to Wikipedia but obviously could be changed. Anyway, great work everyone. Lost of club articles, Arsenal which is great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Anyway, I am off to bed.Glad you liked the banner snooty_jim. What you think of the panel that I have now on my page? It is similar to Wikipedia but obviously could be changed. Anyway, great work everyone. Lost of club articles, Arsenal which is great. Aw boo! No respect for the MLS article! Good night jod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
small Mac Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Just looked at the MLS article and it's excellent, well done Rancer I'm off to bed myself now. Jod, i've just added an article about League Standard, can you check it over tomorrow and see if you agree with what i've written, i think you also have a bit of knowledge about this area if memory serves me correct. Well done guys, the Wiki is coming along nicely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 If you want to change the front page, change it. I initially made that when I first got the wiki and I am suprised no one has changed it yet. Do what you like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 Slightly annoying is that the page is too wide and I have to scroll across sideways. I hate scroll bars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Slightly annoying is that the page is too wide and I have to scroll across sideways.I hate scroll bars Me too, the layout definitely needs to be improved in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I have no sideways scrollbars strangely, & I'm using a laptop with a relatively small screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Only just caught up with this. Can we put images in? I was going to make an article on setting up your game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Only just caught up with this. Can we put images in?I was going to make an article on setting up your game. We need JJay to give us privileges to put in images. So no, not yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Ok. I'll still make the article, but without images for the time being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I want to make a new page called "Setting up your game" but I don't know how to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Because the interface of the free site won't allow us too.If you look at any other wiki site, none of them look like Wikipedia. You sure http://www.grimepedia.co.uk/wiki/Grime_Wikipedia:About Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Galactus - I think CaptainPlanet was just trying to say that not all wikis look like wikipedia, & not that none of them do. We've moved to a more wikipedia-esque site now anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStu94 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 There's already a football manager wikipedia site up, although it doesn't go talk about clubs like your one does, or as much detail. http://footballmanager.wikia.com/wiki/Football_Manager_2009 You might already know this, I was just pointing it out. EDIT: Just noticed that you already knew this. My bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Another Wiki - Wikipedia has this: Oh right, sorry. I had always thought that it stood for Sunderland Athletic! Would you be able to change the page name for me please, it doesn't seem to be letting me:( Really good work there arsenal_2111. Just a tiny point, the second last sentence on the disclaimers read "...I can not guarentee that the below is the exact ..." It should say 'above'. Oh and you spelt guarantee wrong Thanks for pointing that out, with most of them I changed that but as I just copied it from the old site is said below. What page did I forget to change it on? There's already a football manager wikipedia site up, although it doesn't go talk about clubs like your one does, or as much detail.http://footballmanager.wikia.com/wiki/Football_Manager_2009 You might already know this, I was just pointing it out. EDIT: Just noticed that you already knew this. My bad I'm pretty sure that was linked to near the start of the thread, and we decided that it was a bit out of date. Tbh I think a official site rather than a signup thing is better. Thanks anyway:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest josh9393 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 have been following this great project for the last few days and would love to get involved if that's ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 have been following this great project for the last few days and would love to get involved if that's ok. You're very welcome as far as I'm concerned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Thanks to whoever changed Sunderland's:thup: Really good work there arsenal_2111. Just a tiny point, the second last sentence on the disclaimers read "...I can not guarentee that the below is the exact ..." It should say 'above'. Oh and you spelt guarantee wrong Thanks for pointing that out, with most of them I changed that but as I just copied it from the old site is said below. What page did I forget to change it on? Never mind, realised that there was two places that it was meant to be changed, and I'd only done one. But they are all changed now, as it the spelling. have been following this great project for the last few days and would love to get involved if that's ok. Of course you can get involved, anyone can as long as they know a lot about the subject they are writing about and the articles are of a high quality. If you do write one, let us know what it is so we can make sure that no-one else does it/is doing it. Good luck:thup: ------------------------- For the Premier League, shouldn't the page be called 'English Premier League Clubs' not 'Premiership Clubs', as EPL is from FM, and Premiership is the old term. As far as I know I'm not allowed to change title, so I would appriciate it if someone else could do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Seems sensible. Make sure the english league threads are listed by divison rather than alphabetical order though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I'll start working on tags for the articles now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I'll start working on tags for the articles now. Are you an admin on it? If so, would you be able to change the name of the Premier League page please? Either to Premier League, English Premier League, English Premier Division. Just something more FM-like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Are you an admin on it? If so, would you be able to change the name of the Premier League page please? Either to Premier League, English Premier League, English Premier Division. Just something more FM-like. I'm an admin, but I don't seem to have the privileges to edit the title either. What you could do is make a new page with the 'Premier League Clubs' title, copy & paste everything from the old page into it, & replace the old Premiership page with the new Premier League one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverride Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Ive just added a Liverpool manager histroy but i cant make it look as good as some of the others :s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Ive just added a Liverpool manager histroy but i cant make it look as good as some of the others :sI fixed it up a bit for you Huw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I'm an admin, but I don't seem to have the privileges to edit the title either. What you could do is make a new page with the 'Premier League Clubs' title, copy & paste everything from the old page into it, & replace the old Premiership page with the new Premier League one. Alright, I've done that. It's all linked up, but the page 'Premiership Clubs' is still there. Do you know how to redirect it to the new page, or to delete it altogether? I've sent out some PM's asking for permission to use club threads, to all writers of Premier League threads. Hopefully the Prem should be done by the end of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Alright, I've done that. It's all linked up, but the page 'Premiership Clubs' is still there. Do you know how to redirect it to the new page, or to delete it altogether?I've sent out some PM's asking for permission to use club threads, to all writers of Premier League threads. Hopefully the Prem should be done by the end of the day. Just delete the old page & replace it with the new one. That's the best we can do I think. Good to hear we might have the Premiership page complete soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Just delete the old page & replace it with the new one. That's the best we can do I think.Good to hear we might have the Premiership page complete soon Yeah, but how do I delete a page? There doesn't seem to be an option to do that. Fulham, Villa and Newcastle have just been done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Yeah, but how do I delete a page? There doesn't seem to be an option to do that. Fulham, Villa and Newcastle have just been done. Oh, I guess only admins can delete pages. Could you link me to the page you want deleted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Oh, I guess only admins can delete pages. Could you link me to the page you want deleted? I can't link you to it, because every page seems to be the home page adress:confused: But it's the page called 'Premiership Clubs' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Right, it should be gone now. The amount of progress we've made in such a short space of time is fantastic. KUTGW guys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I'm working on http://www.fmliveonline.com/fmwiki/index.php?title=Scouting at the moment btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefc22 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I will register and do some work on some articles now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefc22 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Attributes Just did this quick article on attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Guys, how do you do redirections? I've made Olympique Lyonnais' page, but want to make it so 'Lyon' redirects there. Any idea how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Guys, how do you do redirections? I've made Olympique Lyonnais' page, but want to make it so 'Lyon' redirects there. Any idea how? I tried to figure this out earlier. Don't have a clue, it's all so complicated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefc22 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I will link it for you if you have posted it. You go to the page you want to link it from and do a thing like this: [[Lyon]] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefc22 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 BTW, do you prefer the layout of the Premiership teams, i just changed it because it looked messy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I will link it for you if you have posted it.You go to the page you want to link it from and do a thing like this: [[Lyon]] I don't think that's what he's talking about though. He said that he wants people to be redirected to the Olympique Lyonnais page when they type 'Lyon' into the search box. BTW, do you prefer the layout of the Premiership teams, i just changed it because it looked messy.Much better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I tried to figure this out earlier. Don't have a clue, it's all so complicated. Hmm, thanks anyway. Will have to ask someone who is used to the site. ------ Rob, thanks, but like said that's not really what I meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 BTW, do you prefer the layout of the Premiership teams, i just changed it because it looked messy. Yeah, it's better now. I did it yesterday, but I'm concentrating on getting the team screens done at the moment so I didn't put muchtime into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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