fofos Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Playing my fifth year in the game...I get a msg in my inbox saying that Liverpool was deducted 9 points for going into administration. Cool feauture but anybody has any idea wat that means?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirdez24 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Look up Luton, Rotherham and Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4457 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Out of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Means they are broke....loads of debt.....Happened in my game to Chelski...and Abramovic was still at the club :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GillsMan Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Playing my fifth year in the game...I get a msg in my inbox saying that Liverpool was deducted 9 points for going into administration. Cool feauture but anybody has any idea wat that means?? It means that they have been financially mismanaged, causing them to go into administration, which means that a separate administration company has been called in to sell their assets to sort out their debt. The penalty for going into administration is 9 points in the Premier League and 10 points in the Football League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 In my game it happened to Newcastle. Had to sell most of their best players. Now they're struggling to survive in the Premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 On an aside to this has anyone seen if the penalties handed to Leeds, Rotherham, Luton and Bournemouth in recent seasons has happened? ie in debt multiple times so get harsher points deductions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fofos Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 Oh wow ...hard to imagine Liverpool going broke though. Everything is all twisted in fm 09...Arsenal is the best team by far...they won 4 titles already and the last one with 30 points difference and chelsea finished 15th and Liverpool broke. Haha I wonder if that could ever be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshmay07 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 ive gone into admin before in fm08 as yeovil lost everything but the board kept me and i had a 10 point deduction and finished 2nd in the league with a bunch of low wage free transfers then i got fired after a season in the championship with no funds and in debt again *woops* and finsihing bottom with all of 8 wins in a season lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornmean9 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 sure hope arsenal go in to admin in my game would love to get some of there players on cheap lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tansrb Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 my game united went bankrupt. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_man Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 my game united went bankrupt. lol Cant go bankrupt, teams always get saved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverride Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 What? Liverpool going into administration, Never happens when Im in charge. OP I think you may want to go and try and get yourself some bargins you know? They will have to accept bids for any players I believe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfanatic Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 glad to hear they've kept it realistic. I'm a liverpool fan but cringe when I think about the ownership. man utd are in the same boat, and possibly Chelsea (abramovich's money is only an interest free loan). The game should then read that the owners were lynched by angry fans! It's what these parasites deserve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fofos Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 Well unfortunately I am playing as wimbledon and just got promoted to the championship soo I dont think anybody would join...and also only have a budget of 85 k lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolatier Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 how on earth can one of the worlds largest clubs go into administration? i know the american owners came with some debt but not so the club would go into admin. unrealistic in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GillsMan Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 how on earth can one of the worlds largest clubs go into administration? i know the american owners came with some debt but not so the club would go into admin. unrealistic in my opinion. Admittedly it's not quite the same, but when Leeds were Champions League semi finalists, I'm sure people would have said the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stvndysn Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 the main reasons are as said above - mismanagement of funds, owners, the current financial crisis is not helping clubs im sure, i mean who wants to spend 925 pounds on a arsenal season ticket, unless your super rich of course. luckily huddersfield town thought of this and our season tickets only cost 100 quid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neclord Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Playing my fifth year in the game...I get a msg in my inbox saying that Liverpool was deducted 9 points for going into administration. Cool feauture but anybody has any idea wat that means?? How did that happen? You spent millions on big name signings? Or spent on players that lost their value and were flops? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rams_ Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I remember a bug from a few FMs ago where the AI would sign players for a ridiculous amount of money, then go into administration the following day. This happenned to Milan in one of my games, they bought Glen Johnson for £42m and the next day were in recievership lol. Check out the transfers in, see if it happenned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolatier Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Admittedly it's not quite the same, but when Leeds were Champions League semi finalists, I'm sure people would have said the same. true. but i hardly think liverpool would implode the way leeds did. i just dont think its feisable. they are too massive a club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglealan64 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 true. but i hardly think liverpool would implode the way leeds did. i just dont think its feisable. they are too massive a club. You haven't been reading anything for the past 6 months then? Liverpool's owners have huge debts, a new stadium to fund and a world recession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Man Utd are arguabley a must more massive club than Liverpool but have debt coming out of their ears. The only reason they are not in administration is due to the merchendising etc that means the debt is reducing at a good rate. All it would take is for the Glazers to depart and Man Utd are up that stream without the paddle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slrooke Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Man Utd are arguabley a must more massive club than Liverpool but have debt coming out of their ears. The only reason they are not in administration is due to the merchendising etc that means the debt is reducing at a good rate. All it would take is for the Glazers to depart and Man Utd are up that stream without the paddle. not really, if the unthinkable ever happened and united ran out of monet they could just sell old trafford and that would cover all the clubs debts (saw somewhere that old trafford is worth about £500m), as long as united keep winning trothys and get decent tv money there shouldnt be any problems, there probably one of the best financially managed clubs in the world, they might have massive debts, but when you compare it to the money they make clubs like liverpool are in a worst position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 How much debt has to be there for a team to go into administration? I am managing Watford in the Championship right now, they got taken over by an English businessman, he took away my transfer funds and cut my wage budget. Money is a huge problem right now at Watford in my game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slrooke Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Man Utd are arguabley a must more massive club than Liverpool but have debt coming out of their ears. The only reason they are not in administration is due to the merchendising etc that means the debt is reducing at a good rate. All it would take is for the Glazers to depart and Man Utd are up that stream without the paddle. How much debt has to be there for a team to go into administration? I am managing Watford in the Championship right now, they got taken over by an English businessman, he took away my transfer funds and cut my wage budget. Money is a huge problem right now at Watford in my game. its when the board feel that they cant keep the club going, itll be different for every team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler42 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Cant go bankrupt, teams always get saved. Ive seen "Bankrupt" in my game once, they had their stadium size reduced and their facilities were poorer than they were before they went bankrupt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fofos Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 How did that happen? You spent millions on big name signings? Or spent on players that lost their value and were flops? No I am not playing as Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slighty_Baked Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 As an Everton fan can I just say that would be class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Gribble Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I think its more than possible for Liverpool to go bankrupt, all their current loans are due to be paid in January, and there's even been rumors of them having to sell off their assets (e.g. their players) in order to pay their debtors. I doubt they will, but it shows what a fine line some of the top clubs are currently running, Man Utd have ridiculous amounts of debt, the whole buying out by the Glazers was done with a loan, someone above mentioned Chelsea are in a similar situation, Man City are fine and it's looking like staying that way. Arsenal are one of the few teams that are financially self sufficient, and although they are playing off stadium debts currently, when they are paid off they are due to be very financially stable in the future. Theres a lot of talk about UEFA regulations changing so teams are self sufficient, not just funded by tycoons with endless pockets, absorbing all the debt. If it passes it could spell trouble for a lot of English clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzalcfc Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Liverpool went into admin in my 4th season, but then seemed to recover very shortly after. They were also docked 9 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellfire Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Teams can go Bankrupt, happened to Sunderland in my game, they sold the stadium, all reserve and training facilities and ended up in League 2 with freebie players. Club value was just over a million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawsie Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 On my 6th season no teams went bankrupt for me, liverpool, man utd, chelsea, arsenal all listed as rich. Man city too ofc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newky Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Liverpool went into admin 3rd season on my game. I got Gerrard for £10M but Torres chose to go to Roma for £32M and Lucas went to Atalanta for £3.4M. They came out of admin shortly after so pick up those bargains quick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro_DK Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Big clubs going into administration can happen in the near future, when the owners loose a lot of money becourse of the financiel market these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonini90 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Playing my fifth year in the game...I get a msg in my inbox saying that Liverpool was deducted 9 points for going into administration. Cool feauture but anybody has any idea wat that means?? same for me year 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I've not seen a Premier League docked points but I've seen a lot in the Championship: 2013/14 - Newcastle docked 10 points, still got promoted 2017/18 - Newcastle and Hull docked points, Newcastle relegated 2018/19 - Hull docked points, got relegated 2019/20 - Newcastle and Wigan docked points, Wigan relegated 2020/21 - Ipswich, Watford and West Ham docked points, Ipswich relegated 2021/22 - Watford docked points, got relegated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Wasn't there a report earlier in the real life season that said that about 80% of debt in English football is carried by the 'big 4'? Will try and find a link..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjawi. Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 We'll probably see this in a few years anyways with the way that the country is going. Especially if what I have heard about Liverpool's finances is right. At one point there was talk of the owners having to pay back excessively large sums of money to the bank in a very short space of time and there was talk of the possibility of selling players. It's not unrealistic at all since it could become reality. Doesn't matter how big the club is, when the owner has placed stupid amounts of debt on your club you will struggle to pay it off. I don't know a single Liverpool fan who is happy with the financial mess that they board have placed n the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Wasn't there a report earlier in the real life season that said that about 80% of debt in English football is carried by the 'big 4'? Will try and find a link..... Liverpool are in real trouble financially, as are Utd. I guess they could both expect to be snapped up by billionaires if they ever became available on the cheap though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I've just taken over Liverpool in 2020, see FMS - (my plug ) when they have finally paid off their debts, they managed to stay out of administration although Hicks and Gillett left some time ago. Chelsea however, are in serious debt even with Abramovich still there? Strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Out of money. thats quite a lazy answer isn't it? a bit rude too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
small Mac Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Ive seen "Bankrupt" in my game once, they had their stadium size reduced and their facilities were poorer than they were before they went bankrupt. Yeah i think i saw this recently for the Icelandic national team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomekian Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Remember chelsea were only bought by abramovic because otherwise they would have gone bust within weeks. All it takes is for Putin to give Abramovic the same treatment as several other russian oligarchs (or a polonium salad) and chelsea would be in serious danger of going bust. With the current global financial crisis, the likes of Hicks and Gillet, Randy Lerner and The Glazers are going to start feeling the pinch. Utd are better placed due to their massive income and the increased value of OT, but as we've seen with their stadium plans, Liverpool need serious sustained success on the pitch to stay solvent as things stand. Its unlike either would go bankrupt due to them being such massive global brands which would be attractive to investors, but going into administration could happen as a precurser to a significant drop in share price. The managers are under much more pressure to maintain success. Even Arsenal are feeling the pinch despite their sound financial model, and the weakness of the pound against the Euro is not going to help things....worrying times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal4life Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 In one of my game in fm08 man u went into admin and I got ronaldo for 20 mil, I was so happy at the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambassador Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 In one of my game in fm08 man u went into admin and I got ronaldo for 20 mil, I was so happy at the time £20m? I got him for £8m, once the recievers take over transfers just risk a low bid and they'll probably accept I cleared United out of Berbatov, Ferdinand, Ronaldo and Rooney for £21m and just missed out on Van Der Saar and Nani on free's (administrators had released them) because I'd buckled my wage limit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGLiverpool Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 There should be the possibility (especially in lower league clubs) of them going into liquidation. Would make things more interesting, plus it brings new teams into the fray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Pink Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Im struggeling with swindon in my game and out of nothing some argentinian business man comes along and byes the whole club, hehe. And from being half a million in the reds i now have more than 16 mill in the bank. Yihaa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelly27 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 For clubs like Man City and Chelsea do the owners pump more money in on the game ? Or if im Man City and blow all my money in the 1st 2 seasons is that it? Do I just get money from what i make (tickets, merch, feeders etc). Seems silly Chelsea goin into admin with roman still at the club on the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Mr_Pink -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Im struggeling with swindon in my game and out of nothing some argentinian business man comes along and byes the whole club, hehe. And from being half a million in the reds i now have more than 16 mill in the bank. Yihaa. If you are really lucky your new owners will keep pumping money in to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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