simonbyrneno.4 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Just need some advice on how to set him up, because his match ratings on my game go from poor to ok, i am playing a 4411 system with attacking wings and him in the hole behind Berbatov. I play him like this: Normal mentality-Around 13 Normal CF (very middle marker on slide) Passing-set to mixed FwR-often RwB-often Long Shots-mixed/rarely TTB-often CB-often Cross from mixed Free Role aswell Just some advice would help, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 You'd be better off posting this in the tactics forum as there will be people in there more able to help you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oranjeman Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 You'd be better off posting this in the tactics forum as there will be people in there more able to help you. true this is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDR Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Don't manage Man Utd, but tbh I'd give him: Attacking mentality (1 or 2 into attacking mentality from normal) High CF (about midway between centre bar and max) Passing - Team FWR - Mixed/normal RWB - Often Long shots - mixed TTB - mixed CB - mixed Cross from - mixed I would not give him a free role, though. IMO, if you're playing with Tevez or Berbatov, they'd be better options for a free role - perhaps Berbatov especially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNY1000000 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 You'd be better off posting this in the tactics forum as there will be people in there more able to help you. For sure, but Man u should be playing an more attacking formation IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 he may simply be off form Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tefal Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 have you got the 'visit oap ladies of the night' turned off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbyrneno.4 Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 i'm playing Berbatov with the following instructions and it seems to be working well so far: Attacking mentality-Around 19 High CF (around 16) Passing-set to mixed FwR-mixed RwB-mixed Long Shots-rarely TTB-mixed CB-rarely Is the large gap in their cf and mentalities creating a problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Rooney gets a goal every other game for me... ment 14 creat 14 pass team close 17 tack team frun mixed rwb mixed long s mixed ttb mixed cross b rare hub ticked f role ticked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbyrneno.4 Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 Pele- you playing him AMC or up front? who do you play him with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glamdring Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I'd set him up with a tray full of pies personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_attack_daddy Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Paint him green Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 What settings he should have can only be answered relative to the team and the other individual player setting tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbyrneno.4 Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 Should i play Rooney up top with Forward runs set to rare/mixed or should he play in AMC? What level of cf would people recomend for a player such as Rooney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 i play him up front with tevez as berbs is always inj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbyrneno.4 Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 i play him up front with tevez as berbs is always inj Do you play Tevez with the same settings when you play them together and have them swap positions? And when you have Berbatov available do you also have him hold up the ball too when he's partnered with Rooney? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 no i don't swap positions i will post Tevez and berbs settings in a min Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 i do find tevez and beratov don't play that well together tevez 16 ment 16 creative team passing 20 closing down team tackling mixed frw runs often run with ball mixed long shots mixed ttb mixed cross ball berbs 16 ment 16 creative team pass 8 closing down team tackling mixed f runs mixed rwb rare long shots often ttb rare cross ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbyrneno.4 Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 i do find tevez and beratov don't play that well togethertevez 16 ment 16 creative team passing 20 closing down team tackling mixed frw runs often run with ball mixed long shots mixed ttb mixed cross ball berbs 16 ment 16 creative team pass 8 closing down team tackling mixed f runs mixed rwb rare long shots often ttb rare cross ball What sorta results in terms of performances from the two of them? Your set up for Rooney is working very well. Highly impressive. You don't have Berbs or Tevez holding up the ball or either of them with a free role, no? just making sure before i implement the settings into my tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 tevez and berbs can play free role i will test when rooney is inj.. but both are not quite strong enough to hold up ball.. i try and play as man utd do irl lots of different goalscorers but as long as my strikers are getting a goal every 2 matches i'm more than happy. tevez and rooney have been great i might try berbs on a free role when he gets a game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitewalk Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Rooney doesn't scores for me. He is just shooting balls at the opponent 'keeper. Absolute frustration to watch him on 3D, I've given up on him and paired Aguero with Tevez, who are good friends and taking turns to score. I'm just hoping moneybags Real Madrid can come buy off Rooney for 50 million so that i can improve my defence. Lol. Like the way they bought off my Messi, who wasn't doing much, for 73million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I'm finding him a real curiosity. My assman keeps reminding me that he's suffering a goal drought - in fact he hasn't scored in 14 games. Yet his contribution is excellent and he bucks the FM09 habit of giving strikers who don't score or win headers decent ratings. Both he and I aren't worried about his lack of goals. I supposed, therefore, that his performance for me reflects real life; maybe when he does finally get his first goal, he'll score in the next 10 games! By the way, I'm using a 3-4-3 with three strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landsverk Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 For some reason when i changed his closing down to rarely, he started scoring much more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James8 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I've got Rooney playing the AMC role in a 4-2-3-1 formation - the best settings I've found for him are as follows... Mentality = 16 (in a 'standard' bands-of-two mentality structure) CF = 15 FWR = Rarely RWB = Mixed / Often LS = Mixed TB = Often Cross Ball = Mixed Free Role Ticked Having his forward runs on rarely really gets the best out of his Free Role movement. He still gets in the box on the end of crosses etc. too! I've noticed that the setting for Cross Ball has a significant effect on how far wide he moves - if it's on Often you will see him in line with your winger at times. I've found mixed lets him operate perfectly in the 'hole' with enough range to lose any DMC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitewalk Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 why do you put rarely for forward run? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grozavu07 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I've got Rooney playing the AMC role in a 4-2-3-1 formation - the best settings I've found for him are as follows...Mentality = 16 (in a 'standard' bands-of-two mentality structure) CF = 15 FWR = Rarely RWB = Mixed / Often LS = Mixed TB = Often Cross Ball = Mixed Free Role Ticked Having his forward runs on rarely really gets the best out of his Free Role movement. He still gets in the box on the end of crosses etc. too! I've noticed that the setting for Cross Ball has a significant effect on how far wide he moves - if it's on Often you will see him in line with your winger at times. I've found mixed lets him operate perfectly in the 'hole' with enough range to lose any DMC. I also prefer playmaker-type players like Kaka,Riquelme as AMC with Fwr Rarely.Looks like Rooney can do it too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James8 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 why do you put rarely for forward run? FWR rarely allows him to drop deep and become involved in the build up play. However, when the ball is ahead of him his high mentality gets him into the box on the end of crosses or flick-ons. Don't think that FWR rarely in this case would prevent him getting into scoring positions as I did at first. Watch for yourself in 'full match' mode what happens with FWR set to often - when the midfielders have the ball he will run forward immediately and stay in line with the opposition back four. This is not 'playing in the hole' and he is easily marked by one of the DCs. The only supply option available to him in this case is a ball over the top of the defence which is a low percentage success play. FWR rarely combined with Free Role sees him roaming around to find space allowing your midfield to pass him the ball for him then to work his magic - either stake a shot, try to dribble past the DCs or play in your wingers or centre forward. In my standard tactic, if the midfield bypass Rooney altogether and play a ball straight to Berbatov, Rooney will sometimes read the play and run on to a headed flick on (without needing to set any TM / Run on to Ball options). FYI, in my standard tactic Berbatov has a mentality of 10 or 11 (sorry, I can't remember exactly which) and 'poacher' settings as set out in wwfan's TT&F 09 guide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejaswi Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Got sick of playing Rooney. Sold him to Arsenal for 35MP. He just doesn't get a good rating! That and Ballotelli and Rossi were crying out for first team chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landsverk Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Selling Rooney, that's just blasphemy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejaswi Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 But Tevez and Berbatov have much better stats than Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 James8, what tactic do you use? Ronaldo and Rooney both sucks in my save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James8 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 James8, what tactic do you use? Ronaldo and Rooney both sucks in my save I'm using a 4-2-3-1 formation: Back 4, 2 MCs, AMR, AML, AMC & FC. I adapted it from the 4-2-3-1 which uses 3 AMCs in wwfan's TT&F download pack. I just moved the 2 outer AMCs to AMR and AML and the made the instruction settings I posted earlier. I'd say what I have is a good starting point but there is still room for improvement in terms of scoring more goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James8 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Since the patch was released I find Rooney is performing much better in the AMC role with the settings I posted here. My team is scoring many more goals using the 4-2-3-1 formation than before. I have learned that I really get the best out of him using the 'Expect a performance!' pre-match talk. When his previous game ratings are high you can replace this with 'Pick up where you left off' when it becomes available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLander Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 FWR rarely allows him to drop deep and become involved in the build up play. However, when the ball is ahead of him his high mentality gets him into the box on the end of crosses or flick-ons. Don't think that FWR rarely in this case would prevent him getting into scoring positions as I did at first.Watch for yourself in 'full match' mode what happens with FWR set to often - when the midfielders have the ball he will run forward immediately and stay in line with the opposition back four. This is not 'playing in the hole' and he is easily marked by one of the DCs. The only supply option available to him in this case is a ball over the top of the defence which is a low percentage success play. FWR rarely combined with Free Role sees him roaming around to find space allowing your midfield to pass him the ball for him then to work his magic - either stake a shot, try to dribble past the DCs or play in your wingers or centre forward. In my standard tactic, if the midfield bypass Rooney altogether and play a ball straight to Berbatov, Rooney will sometimes read the play and run on to a headed flick on (without needing to set any TM / Run on to Ball options). FYI, in my standard tactic Berbatov has a mentality of 10 or 11 (sorry, I can't remember exactly which) and 'poacher' settings as set out in wwfan's TT&F 09 guide. You seem to have done your homework! Was wondering what you do with the other striker (Berbatov) to get the best out of Rooney. The TT&F 09 guide has a "poacher" down as playing no through balls, do you have the same? If so, does Rooney link up well enough with Berbatov? Was also wondering what you have for Berbatov's passing and creative freedom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micro-ice Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 he never played well for me so just i just sold him. the other strikers seem to be scoring though so i think its just rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbyrneno.4 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 Has anyone managed to get Berbatov to play anywhere near the level that is expected of him? If so can they post the individual instructions that they are using for him? I've got mixed results from him and his performances should be alot better in my opinion as his actual attrtibutes in the game are very impressive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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