How to set this GOAL KICK

[Aoyao]

The red ST does not press the white DC when goal kick.

[dzek]

@Aoyao you want to learn how to make that goal kick or how to get your forwards to press this goal kick?

[Aoyao]

Yes, DC is not in box for receive the ball, but GK always pass ball to DC.

ST doesn't  press DC when set high block and much high press.

[dzek]

9 hours ago, Aoyao said:

Yes, DC is not in box for receive the ball, but GK always pass ball to DC.

ST doesn't  press DC when set high block and much high press.

Just use “Roll It Out”. It will not happen every time btw.

ST which doesn't press DC in this scenario is an issue from FM22.

[b2khn]

If you want to press the DC you need prevent short gk distribution.

Lines are a bit deeper, if you ask me, it was possible to set it higher, but SI removed one tick of pressing line hight.

[Maddux]

vor 34 Minuten schrieb b2khn:

If you want to press the DC you need prevent short gk distribution.

Lines are a bit deeper, if you ask me, it was possible to set it higher, but SI removed one tick of pressing line hight.

If you want to press the centrebacks and win the ball there, distributing the ball short is exactly what you want. But if you want the keeper to distribute long or have to hit the ball long after he distributed the ball to the centrebacks, you want to prevent short distribution.

 

But in both cases it depends on your formation and individual marking and pressing instructions how well it works. It was possible with the right individual instructions to exploit it in FM 23 when the opponent had a back-3 formation, resulting in 2+ goals per game in these situations. I tried it in FM 24 too to see if the bug is still there but it seems like that they fixed it. On purpose or by accident with the advanced match engine.

[dzek]

17 hours ago, Maddux said:

If you want to press the centrebacks and win the ball there, distributing the ball short is exactly what you want. But if you want the keeper to distribute long or have to hit the ball long after he distributed the ball to the centrebacks, you want to prevent short distribution.

I'm not sure if I understand what you wrote here.

"If you want to press the centre backs and win the ball there, distributing the ball short is exactly what you want."  ??

[Maddux]

vor 4 Minuten schrieb dzek:

I'm not sure if I understand what you wrote here.

"If you want to press the centre backs and win the ball there, distributing the ball short is exactly what you want."  ??

You want the keeper to distribute the ball short to the centrebacks and then press them to win the ball near the box. Prevent short distribution tells your attackers to man-mark the defenders so the keeper can't distribute the ball short but has to hit the ball long.

Both strategies have their advantages. You can win the ball easier in your own half when you force the keeper to hit the ball long but then have to play forward through the whole opposing team. Allowing short distribution combined with good pressing gives you the chance to win the ball back higher up the pitch against a defense that has pushed up high. But if your pressing fails the opponent can be in front of your box against your rest defence pretty quick.

[dzek]

1 minute ago, Maddux said:

You want the keeper to distribute the ball short to the centrebacks and then press them to win the ball near the box. Prevent short distribution tells your attackers to man-mark the defenders so the keeper can't distribute the ball short but has to hit the ball long.

Both strategies have their advantages. You can win the ball easier in your own half when you force the keeper to hit the ball long but then have to play forward through the whole opposing team. Allowing short distribution combined with good pressing gives you the chance to win the ball back higher up the pitch against a defense that has pushed up high. But if your pressing fails the opponent can be in front of your box against your rest defence pretty quick.

So it's better to use High Press without Prevent Short GK Distribution if you want the opposing GK to play it short and then press them. This is logically correct but do you see it happening in the game and having an effect?

Another way is if the opposing goalkeeper is in support or even attack duty then he has "Take More Risks" which will pass short regardless of whether you mark their central defenders.

[Maddux]

vor 45 Minuten schrieb dzek:

So it's better to use High Press without Prevent Short GK Distribution if you want the opposing GK to play it short and then press them. This is logically correct but do you see it happening in the game and having an effect?

Another way is if the opposing goalkeeper is in support or even attack duty then he has "Take More Risks" which will pass short regardless of whether you mark their central defenders.

High press with short distribution won't do anything if you don't have the right formation to press. How do you want to press a back-4 when playing a 433?

You have to use the right opposition instructions plus the right individual instructions for your own players. You can set it up to man-mark 3 players in the back 4 plus "man-mark never" and "press always" on the weekest member of the back-4. This will force the short distribution to the technical weak defender you then can press. Forcing the ball to a fullback and attack him on his weak foot can be effective too. You either win the ball or force him to pass with his weak foot to another defender and then you can try to intercept the pass.

It has an effect and there was a huge exploit in FM 23. But all that requires a lot of clicks and to analyze the opposing players attributes to do it right. Many users just let the assistant manager handle opp instructions because they just want to play.