Does the early access get a hot fix?

[Bobsy88]

Hey,

I'm just wondering if SI have ever released a hot fix during the early access/beta.

Game is great so far, apart from the injuries - especially to Goalkeepers. 

No worries if not, will have to wait til the full release but just wondering if any hope of a fix before then?

[XaW]

They haven't before, I think. And I doubt they'd do any updates before the release unless it was a technical issue where many people couldn't enter the game itself. A bit too high level of injuries to goalkeepers doesn't fall into something I would call critical, so if I was a betting man, I'd say no updates, at least to that.

[Bobsy88]

Thanks for your reply.

No worries, I've started a few games where both the first team GKs get lengthy injuries.

 

I'll hold off starting a new game until full release. Thanks again 

[Paraman]

From memory, there's always been excessive injuries in the beta and it usually gets sorted by the time full launch comes around.

[FrazT]

A hotfix, by definition, is released when there is a major technical issue that affects how the game runs or doesn't run, so is unlikely for a thing like injuries.

[Dagenham_Dave]

1 hour ago, Paraman said:

From memory, there's always been excessive injuries in the beta and it usually gets sorted by the time full launch comes around.

A common myth. SI very rarely, if ever, touch the injury frequency, it's always set to about 80% of real life. The only fix they will do for full release this time is to curb the excessive goalkeeper injuries. 

I'm in November in my save, and I've had 4 injuries all season so far, longest one was for 7 days. In my ten team league, 4 of the teams have no injuries, three of the other six have 1 injury each, and the other three have 3 injuries. Let me tell you, thats WAY down on the injury tally in this league in real life. 

[Mobius]

There's usually some "reduced injuries" type mod on the Steam Workshop so hopefully that will be available shortly after release !

[SPE3D]

8 hours ago, Mobius said:

There's usually some "reduced injuries" type mod on the Steam Workshop so hopefully that will be available shortly after release !

Reduced injuries? I'll be looking for the mod that increases them.

[andu1]

There were updates for previous versions... I crearly remember an update for FM21 beta which ruined my tactics... lol

For FM23 they didnt though

[Bobsy88]

I know injuries are part of the game, the rest of squad injuries had been okay, and the game seems fine. Just both my main GKs on every save so far is bit frustrating.

 

 

[FrazT]

The issue of raised instances of GK injuries has been reported and is under review.

[numbas2]

I wasn't aware of the GK thing, I just thought when mine broke his arm I was unlucky, and shafted as I don't name one on the bench and the other two were youth players (for a conference south team, despair...)

[MrPompey]

Its possible that goalkeepers are being counted as outfield players and so at higher risk of injury instead of as GK but Ive not seen evidence of this

In any case the only way to prove it is run a series of soak tests looking at GK injuries and comparing to real life. In my personal soak tests I didnt see anything significant in terms of GK injuries. I also wonder since the training module has had some changes if you default training to Ass Man he may over do it? There is also the player injury risk assessment to keep an eye on.

https://www.sportsgambler.com/injuries/football/england-premier-league/

I count 6 GK injuries so far this season in the premier. 

 

Interesting stats here it doesnt break it down to differentiate between outfield players and goalkeepers

[Zapoleon]

In general, they don't have been exceptions where they did to address a player development bug last year and in one year a system performance bug. So I could see the GK bug being fixed before release. 

[Quickzz]

Is there actually a bug related to the goalkeepers, or is everyone just making things up?

[phnompenhandy]

5 minutes ago, Quickzz said:

Is there actually a bug related to the goalkeepers, or is everyone just making things up?

Not a 'bug' per se. Previously, keepers never got injured or carded. They've finally fixed that - possibly overfixed it for the beta.

Edited October 28, 2023 by phnompenhandy

[Viking]

I mean, I have had one single keeper injury in, like, four beta saves so far. But I'm one of those guys who thinks there are too few injuries in FM overall.

[trevjim]

7 hours ago, Viking said:

I mean, I have had one single keeper injury in, like, four beta saves so far. But I'm one of those guys who thinks there are too few injuries in FM overall.

I'm 2 seasons in and had 7 injuries spread across my starter and backup GK.

 

 

[Dagenham_Dave]

9 hours ago, Viking said:

I mean, I have had one single keeper injury in, like, four beta saves so far. But I'm one of those guys who thinks there are too few injuries in FM overall.

I've only had 1 GK injury in 2.5 seasons across two saves, and that was my 3rd choice who got injured for a week while playing in the reserves. 

Like you, I've always thought injury numbers in FM are too low. I always cringe when I hear the 'too many injuries' whine year after year. 

[vincenzo incendio]

On 25/10/2023 at 15:29, Bobsy88 said:

Hey,

I'm just wondering if SI have ever released a hot fix during the early access/beta.

Game is great so far, apart from the injuries - especially to Goalkeepers. 

No worries if not, will have to wait til the full release but just wondering if any hope of a fix before then?

They'll patch stuff during the beta and release the update with the official game release early next month. 

[kiwityke1983]

I've had 1 keeper injury in 3 seasons. He got a strained wrist for 3 weeks. I think some people have obviously gotten really unlucky with it.

[numbas2]

On 27/10/2023 at 13:58, numbas2 said:

I wasn't aware of the GK thing, I just thought when mine broke his arm I was unlucky, and shafted as I don't name one on the bench and the other two were youth players (for a conference south team, despair...)

My new GK has now also broke his arm trying to catch the ball. Poor bloke. 6 months after the other GK lol. 

[wazzaflow10]

On 28/10/2023 at 09:14, Viking said:

I mean, I have had one single keeper injury in, like, four beta saves so far. But I'm one of those guys who thinks there are too few injuries in FM overall.

I'm convinced a lot of these people who are experiencing crazy high injury rates are playing max tempo with gegenpress and filling out the training schedule with sessions and double intensity.

I've never had crazy injuries until I was using a real life injury mod. 

[stevie_G_32201]

Definitely out of hand, had both my Main GK and backup out with longterm injuries TWICE during the same season.

[xkvicd]

On 25/10/2023 at 21:43, XaW said:

They haven't before, I think. And I doubt they'd do any updates before the release unless it was a technical issue where many people couldn't enter the game itself. A bit too high level of injuries to goalkeepers doesn't fall into something I would call critical, so if I was a betting man, I'd say no updates, at least to that.

The regens not developing technicals fix was released during beta last year.