[FM24][HELP]Random and Small Skinning Questions

RogerC · January 29

Is it possible to add more player/staff attribute colours via skinning? Or is this hardcoded into the game?

I mean more than the default 4, low, normal, good and excellent.

Edited January 29 by RogerC

Mark8213 · January 29

19 minutes ago, RogerC said:

Is it possible to add more player/staff attribute colours via skinning? Or is this hardcoded into the game?

I mean more than the default 4, low, normal, good and excellent.

@RogerC You can try these.. copy that and place it in your settings file

<colour name="low attribute" blue="150" red="150" green="150"/>
<colour name="normal attribute" green="255" red="255" blue="0" />
<colour name="good attribute" blue="0" green="255" red="0" />
<colour name="excellent attribute" red="192" yellow="46" blue="46" />
   <colour name="special attribute" red="255" green="160" blue="0" />
   <colour name="attribute label" red="255" green="255" blue="255" />
   <colour name="special attribute label" red="255" green="255" blue="255" />
   <colour name="low condition" red="255" green="0" blue="0" />
   <colour name="mid condition" red="255" green="255" blue="0" />
   <colour name="high condition" red="0" green="255" blue="0" />
   <colour name="profile extra text" red="150" green="200" blue="255" />
<colour name="unknown attribute background" red="210" green="210" blue="210"/>
<colour name="low attribute background" red="201" green="201" blue="199" alpha="255"/>
    <colour name="normal attribute background" red="236" green="184" blue="26" alpha="255"/>
    <colour name="good attribute background" red="27" green="198" blue="14" alpha="255"/>
    <colour name="excellent attribute background" red="241" green="23" blue="28" alpha="255"/

Edited January 29 by Mark8213

Olas Nick · January 29

32 minutes ago, RogerC said:

Is it possible to add more player/staff attribute colours via skinning? Or is this hardcoded into the game?

I mean more than the default 4, low, normal, good and excellent.

not sure. maybe it can be done using value based pictures

RogerC · January 29

3 hours ago, Mark8213 said:

@RogerC You can try these.. copy that and place it in your settings file


   <colour name="low attribute" blue="150" red="150" green="150"/>
<colour name="normal attribute" green="255" red="255" blue="0" />
<colour name="good attribute" blue="0" green="255" red="0" />
<colour name="excellent attribute" red="192" yellow="46" blue="46" />
   <colour name="special attribute" red="255" green="160" blue="0" />
   <colour name="attribute label" red="255" green="255" blue="255" />
   <colour name="special attribute label" red="255" green="255" blue="255" />
   <colour name="low condition" red="255" green="0" blue="0" />
   <colour name="mid condition" red="255" green="255" blue="0" />
   <colour name="high condition" red="0" green="255" blue="0" />
   <colour name="profile extra text" red="150" green="200" blue="255" />
<colour name="unknown attribute background" red="210" green="210" blue="210"/>
<colour name="low attribute background" red="201" green="201" blue="199" alpha="255"/>
    <colour name="normal attribute background" red="236" green="184" blue="26" alpha="255"/>
    <colour name="good attribute background" red="27" green="198" blue="14" alpha="255"/>
    <colour name="excellent attribute background" red="241" green="23" blue="28" alpha="255"/

I don't see what changes a part from your own colours. I tried it anyway but you still have low/normal/good/exc ranges.

2 hours ago, Olas Nick said:

not sure. maybe it can be done using value based pictures

It could work, I'm using the star attributes method anyway.

TCSSkin · January 29

1 hour ago, RogerC said:

I don't see what changes a part from your own colours. I tried it anyway but you still have low/normal/good/exc ranges.

It could work, I'm using the star attributes method anyway.

yeah value based pictures would be the way to go.

I wish we had value based strings though, that'd make my life much easier 😂

RogerC · January 29

It was actually quite easy. Just created my own colours in the settings file and assigned them values/ranges through the corresponding xml file that controls the ranges!

1 hour ago, TCSSkin said:

yeah value based pictures would be the way to go.

I wish we had value based strings though, that'd make my life much easier 😂

Yes, it would help.

_Ben_ · January 29

2 hours ago, TCSSkin said:

yeah value based pictures would be the way to go.

I wish we had value based strings though, that'd make my life much easier 😂

We do…in some places! I was able to get minutes shown (someone helped me but ive forgotten who - sorry!) and I’ve got goals to show a different colour for a different value but have struggled with anything decimal. Wouldn’t be against some community exploration if you wanted to get a thread open?

johnwalker · January 29

1 hour ago, _Ben_ said:

We do…in some places! I was able to get minutes shown (someone helped me but ive forgotten who - sorry!) and I’ve got goals to show a different colour for a different value but have struggled with anything decimal. Wouldn’t be against some community exploration if you wanted to get a thread open?

If you're talking about the 90s that was me. A random discovery I made messing around with the classes.

I also made another random discovery that you could get a text based class to tell you the id/value of text.

You could then make a new class and set text strings based on the id/text.

Edited January 29 by johnwalker

_Ben_ · January 29

17 minutes ago, johnwalker said:

If you're talking about the 90s that was me. A random discovery I made messing around with the classes.

I also made another random discovery that you could get a text based class to tell you the id/value of text.

You could then make a new class and set text strings based on the id/text.

Yes - it was you! Thanks.

Can you explain a bit more about that text based class please?

BouFitty · January 30

8 hours ago, TCSSkin said:

yeah value based pictures would be the way to go.

I wish we had value based strings though, that'd make my life much easier 😂

formatted_label can do that

like for this panel for personality/media handling style:

<widget col="1" class="formatted_label" auto_size="vertical" alignment="centre">
  <var id="row" name="row" />
  <record id="object_property" get_property="PPst" set_property="var1" />
  <list id="format">
    <record value="10" format="-" /> <!-- Ambitious -->
    <record value="4" format="1-14" /> <!-- Balanced -->
...
    <record value="7" format="1[]" /> <!-- Slack -->
    <record value="9" format="-" /> <!-- Very Ambitious -->
    <!-- <record default_value="true" format="[%number#1]" /> -->
    <record default_value="true" format="--" />
  </list>
</widget>

you can also set each format entry to have a min_value and max_value for a range like value_based_picture, i did that in the assist icon thing i posted earlier so that the label disappears with 0 assists

If you just want a single number as the format you have to do something like I did for slack, adding [] which won't be displayed

vamcj · January 30

Guys, good night!

I feel that both the tactic button and the club button in the sidebar (which are 2 screens that I have already edited) take a few seconds longer to load the screen when clicking on them.
The other buttons, which are from screens that have not been edited so far, are very instantaneous.
Is there a way to minimize this delay?

Something else please!
Is there a way to get rid of the horizontal separators in the sidebar?

Edited January 30 by vamcj

snowofman · January 30

1 hour ago, vamcj said:

Guys, good night!

I feel that both the tactic button and the club button in the sidebar (which are 2 screens that I have already edited) take a few seconds longer to load the screen when clicking on them.
The other buttons, which are from screens that have not been edited so far, are very instantaneous.
Is there a way to minimize this delay?

Something else please!
Is there a way to get rid of the horizontal separators in the sidebar?

The delay from pages you have edited, can be lots of things.

mostly because there is alot of data pulled into a page or there is alot of animations etc.

the seperators i have no idea about.

vamcj · January 30

Guys, the "match day header panel" file edits exactly which screen?

snowofman · January 30

4 hours ago, vamcj said:

Guys, the "match day header panel" file edits exactly which screen?

the screen with the tactic, where you can instant result before entering a match

_Ben_ · January 30

21 hours ago, BouFitty said:

like for this panel for personality/media handling style:

Is there any chance you can share the whole of this please, either here or the attached xml? I'm really interested in learning how you've achieved it.

TCSSkin · January 30

22 hours ago, BouFitty said:
formatted_label can do that

like for this panel for personality/media handling style:
<widget col="1" class="formatted_label" auto_size="vertical" alignment="centre">
  <var id="row" name="row" />
  <record id="object_property" get_property="PPst" set_property="var1" />
  <list id="format">
    <record value="10" format="-" /> 
    <record value="4" format="1-14" /> 
...
    <record value="7" format="1[]" /> 
    <record value="9" format="-" /> 
    
    <record default_value="true" format="--" />
  </list>
</widget>
you can also set each format entry to have a min_value and max_value for a range like value_based_picture, i did that in the assist icon thing i posted earlier so that the label disappears with 0 assists

If you just want a single number as the format you have to do something like I did for slack, adding [] which won't be displayed

TIL. Me and @GIMN spent ages tryna figure it out. Now i can't even remember what i was trying to do 😂

hyrule_king · January 31

sorted

Edited January 31 by hyrule_king

andrelc22 · January 31

How can I change the match scoreboard from one skin to another?

BouFitty · January 31

4 hours ago, _Ben_ said:

Is there any chance you can share the whole of this please, either here or the attached xml? I'm really interested in learning how you've achieved it.

Sure, I've attached the panel.

player information personality.xml

_Ben_ · January 31

12 hours ago, BouFitty said:

Sure, I've attached the panel.

player information personality.xml 36.89 kB · 4 downloads

Thank you! I have a list of many questions but the easiest is probably…where did you find what is essentially a personality ID? What else is located where you found this?!

RogerC · January 31

13 hours ago, BouFitty said:

Sure, I've attached the panel.

player information personality.xml 36.89 kB · 5 downloads

1 hour ago, _Ben_ said:

Thank you! I have a list of many questions but the easiest is probably…where did you find what is essentially a personality ID? What else is located where you found this?!

Ohhh so interesting!! Are all those ranges extracted from somewhere? Or made up from what can be found online?

On another note, anyone know how to remove these visual separators? The one around the inbox text and the horizontal one below the tabs.

Edited January 31 by RogerC

TCSSkin · January 31

1 hour ago, _Ben_ said:

Thank you! I have a list of many questions but the easiest is probably…where did you find what is essentially a personality ID? What else is located where you found this?!

im guessing it was similar to how @GIMN found the set piece numbers, using the personality ID with a custom class that displays the string as numbers

johnwalker · January 31

On 29/01/2024 at 18:15, johnwalker said:

If you're talking about the 90s that was me. A random discovery I made messing around with the classes.

I also made another random discovery that you could get a text based class to tell you the id/value of text.

You could then make a new class and set text strings based on the id/text.

On 29/01/2024 at 18:32, _Ben_ said:

Yes - it was you! Thanks.

Can you explain a bit more about that text based class please?

2 hours ago, TCSSkin said:

im guessing it was similar to how @GIMN found the set piece numbers, using the personality ID with a custom class that displays the string as numbers

If you call the class in @GIMN's thread it will give you the string number of any property.

I then used it to create another custom text class that allows you to set text based on that string number.

@BouFitty has really taken it to the next level, and can't wait to check his xml out!

_Ben_ · January 31

2 hours ago, johnwalker said:

If you call the class in @GIMN's thread it will give you the string number of any property.

I then used it to create another custom text class that allows you to set text based on that string number.

@BouFitty has really taken it to the next level, and can't wait to check his xml out!

Wow. This is where my night will go...

I presume that, for things like personality - you'd create a space and have

In some kind of table so that you can pull through the actual personality with the number string next to it?

EDIT: I've just had a little play adding it into my skin and using my own <var> to create a text string...

Edited January 31 by _Ben_

johnwalker · January 31

19 minutes ago, _Ben_ said:

Wow. This is where my night will go...

I presume that, for things like personality - you'd create a space and have

<widget class="textstringnum"> <widget class="PPst">

In some kind of table so that you can pull through the actual personality with the number string next to it?

EDIT: I've just had a little play adding it into my skin and using my own <var> to create a text string...

Fantastic work, looking forward to seeing what you do with it. You're a lot more creative than me!

_Ben_ · January 31

36 minutes ago, johnwalker said:

Fantastic work, looking forward to seeing what you do with it. You're a lot more creative than me!

It's not quite what I wanted, yet...

I've been able to extract these, for example but I don't really know what to do with this information, if I'm honest...

TCSSkin · January 31

10 minutes ago, _Ben_ said:

It's not quite what I wanted, yet...

I've been able to extract these, for example but I don't really know what to do with this information, if I'm honest...

You can use it in a value based position i presume

BouFitty · January 31

6 hours ago, _Ben_ said:

Thank you! I have a list of many questions but the easiest is probably…where did you find what is essentially a personality ID? What else is located where you found this?!

5 hours ago, TCSSkin said:

im guessing it was similar to how @GIMN found the set piece numbers, using the personality ID with a custom class that displays the string as numbers

I did it kind of the opposite way

<widget class="text" font="title" text="personality" auto_size="vertical"></widget>
<set_var name="plabel">
  <container>
    <attachment_group class="horizontal_arrange_vertical_autosize" horizontal_alignment="left,extend" />
    <widget class="formatted_label" format="[%number#1]" auto_size="all">
      <var id="var1" name="pnum" />
    </widget>
    <widget class="personality_label" auto_size="vertical">
      <var id="valu" name="pnum" />
    </widget>
  </container>
</set_var>

<var name="plabel"><set_var name="pnum"><integer value="0"/></set_var></var>
<var name="plabel"><set_var name="pnum"><integer value="1"/></set_var></var>
...

Just displaying what personality_label shows for all values.

Same for media handling styles, but since it's a bitfield, do powers of 2 1,2,4,8,16...

johnwalker · January 31

55 minutes ago, BouFitty said:

I did it kind of the opposite way

<widget class="text" font="title" text="personality" auto_size="vertical"></widget>
<set_var name="plabel">
  <container>
    <attachment_group class="horizontal_arrange_vertical_autosize" horizontal_alignment="left,extend" />
    <widget class="formatted_label" format="[%number#1]" auto_size="all">
      <var id="var1" name="pnum" />
    </widget>
    <widget class="personality_label" auto_size="vertical">
      <var id="valu" name="pnum" />
    </widget>
  </container>
</set_var>

<var name="plabel"><set_var name="pnum"><integer value="0"/></set_var></var>
<var name="plabel"><set_var name="pnum"><integer value="1"/></set_var></var>
...

Just displaying what personality_label shows for all values.

Same for media handling styles, but since it's a bitfield, do powers of 2 1,2,4,8,16...

Game changing.

johnwalker · January 31

1 hour ago, _Ben_ said:

It's not quite what I wanted, yet...

I've been able to extract these, for example but I don't really know what to do with this information, if I'm honest...

You could use player role and player style to make a player profile like I started doing last year.

_Ben_ · January 31

58 minutes ago, johnwalker said:

You could use player role and player style to make a player profile like I started doing last year.

I want to make a bit more of the player style - maybe even encompassing an icon, too. It’s really opened up what we can do - so that’s to @BouFitty and I like that idea there, too

However, it has hugely detracted away from trying to set dashed_number_labels as coloured strings dependent on value, which was my aim for goals/90 etc etc to show a rough percentile, matching colours/gradings I use in the skin!

Edited January 31 by _Ben_

_Ben_ · February 1

Because you wanted them, here are the stringIDs for each role within the game:

1   Goalkeeper
2   Central Defender
4   Full Back
8   Wing Back
16   Defensive Midfielder
32   Central Midfielder
64   Wide Midfielder
128   Winger
512   Attacking Midfielder
1024   Deep Lying Forward
2048   Advanced Forward
4096   Sweeper Keeper
32768   Deep Lying Playmaker
65536   Box to Box Midfielder
131072   Advanced Playmaker
262144   Target Forward
524288   Poacher
1048576   Complete Forward
8388608       Ball Playing Defender
134217728   Inside Forward
268435456   Ball winning midfielder
536870912   No Nonsense CB
1073741824   Defensive Winger
2147483648   Pressing Forward
4294967296   Trequartista
8589934592   Anchor
68719476736   No Nonsense Full Back
137438953472   Enganche
274877906944   Complete Wing Back
549755813888   Regista
1099511627776   False Nine
2199023255552   Shadow Striker
4398046511104   Wide Target Forward
8796093022208   Wide Playmaker
17592186044416   Inverted Wing Back
35184372088832   Raumdeuter
70368744177664   Roaming Playmaker
140737488355328       Mezzala
281474976710656       Carrilero
1125899906842624   Segundo Volante
2251799813685248   Wide Centre Back
4503599627370496   Inverted full back

Value based pictures, begin...

Edited February 1 by _Ben_

dopie · February 2

Hey , I trying to learn more and more about skinning.

But i have now come across something i cant seem to find the solution on.

Found a Players screen from a skin i really liked and put that in on my other skin.

But now i got this issue i cant seem to get the attributes colored , its all white.

Anyone know how i fix that so i can get it colored like standard? i tryed to change the colors on Preference on the game but it doesnt change.

thankfful for answers.

rristola · February 3

I'm making graphics for a lower leagues mod. I just found that there's a logo missing. But, there is a new league logo pack loaded!

Story - team's Board says that we have to be promoted, and in the 'Club vision' page there's text 'Look to build on promotion to the league_name' and there's a logo there, too. That logo is missing (or is the vanilla one).

That league there is a lower league, and has multiple groups.

I expect that here FM uses an ID (and logo) which "means all the groups" or is "common" for that division. (Sorry my English.) Am I right?

And this means that I have to do a logo for each group, but also for that division. Right? And if so, then... how and where can I find these division ID's? Can they be found from the game itself, or only using the Editor?

Here is a pic. (I'm usin OPZ Elite skin.)

Edited: Most likely I "solved" this problem myself.

Edited February 4 by rristola
problem solved

_Ben_ · February 3

Does anybody know if that actual text for these position descriptors is available please? Thanks!

hyrule_king · February 3

12 hours ago, dopie said:

Hey , I trying to learn more and more about skinning.

But i have now come across something i cant seem to find the solution on.

Found a Players screen from a skin i really liked and put that in on my other skin.

But now i got this issue i cant seem to get the attributes colored , its all white.

Anyone know how i fix that so i can get it colored like standard? i tryed to change the colors on Preference on the game but it doesnt change.

thankfful for answers.

Can you upload your settings file, please?

johnwalker · February 3

2 hours ago, _Ben_ said:

Does anybody know if that actual text for these position descriptors is available please? Thanks!

I could never find it.

You could recreate it for each position, but not with the attack/support/defend options for each role. It appears the game looks it up based on linking the role and duty properties.

_Ben_ · February 3

8 minutes ago, johnwalker said:

I could never find it.

You could recreate it for each position, but not with the attack/support/defend options for each role. It appears the game looks it up based on linking the role and duty properties.

Just didn't fancy writing them all out! Yeah - I'd only be able to link to the positional description because I can't find an ID that brings together position and role as it is above...

Thanks anyway!

johnwalker · February 3

3 minutes ago, _Ben_ said:

Just didn't fancy writing them all out! Yeah - I'd only be able to link to the positional description because I can't find an ID that brings together position and role as it is above...

Thanks anyway!

There's a language file that could have the actual text. I can't remember what file it is atm as I'm not at home.

dopie · February 3

6 hours ago, hyrule_king said:

Can you upload your settings file, please?

Sent you a message .

johnwalker · February 4

10 hours ago, johnwalker said:

There's a language file that could have the actual text. I can't remember what file it is atm as I'm not at home.

@_Ben_ unpack templates.

templates>user_folder>languages>example

johnwalker · February 4

Does anyone know what controls the tactics sections in match? I wanted to add another section after opposition, but I can't figure out what controls it.

snowofman · February 4

4 hours ago, johnwalker said:

Does anyone know what controls the tactics sections in match? I wanted to add another section after opposition, but I can't figure out what controls it.

match/tactics overview side panel.xml

johnwalker · February 4

41 minutes ago, snowofman said:

match/tactics overview side panel.xml

Sorry for not being clear, that controls the panel I have open. I was wondering what controls the sections at the top so tactics/player/set pieces etc.

Outside of a match it's controlled by side panel sections or something similar but I can't see what controls it in a match situation.

snowofman · February 4

1 hour ago, johnwalker said:

Sorry for not being clear, that controls the panel I have open. I was wondering what controls the sections at the top so tactics/player/set pieces etc.

Outside of a match it's controlled by side panel sections or something similar but I can't see what controls it in a match situation.

fixture sections.xml - i believe

or

sidebar sections

sidebar team sections

Jr35 · February 4

hey all, I am very very low at skinning.

i do not want any faces in game for my steam deck. so i found a faceless skin for fm23 from here and trying to make up that skin for fm24.

i have two ss's. no texts appears in training schedules section and staff profiles. can anyone help me there?

johnwalker · February 4

4 hours ago, snowofman said:

fixture sections.xml - i believe

or

sidebar sections

sidebar team sections

Fixture sections was right, thank you!

snowofman · February 5

9 hours ago, johnwalker said:

Fixture sections was right, thank you!

you're welcome

glad i could help

Olas Nick · February 5

15 hours ago, Jr35 said:

hey all, I am very very low at skinning.

i do not want any faces in game for my steam deck. so i found a faceless skin for fm23 from here and trying to make up that skin for fm24.

i have two ss's. no texts appears in training schedules section and staff profiles. can anyone help me there?

yes, this panels from fm23 dont work in fm24, it need to be replaced with new panels from fm24

Jr35 · February 5

19 dakika önce, Olas Nick said:

yes, this panels from fm23 dont work in fm24, it need to be replaced with new panels from fm24

which panels are these ?

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