andu1 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Ive seen AI using a DLP and mezalla in a 442... thats no cover for defense.. at all 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiingallen Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Disappointing that in press conferences/pre-match interviews the journalist knows that a player role has changed before a game. The journalist (potentially AI managers?) essentially knows every tweak you’ve made to your tactic and even tell you when you’ve changed a player role before they’ve even kicked off. E.g. “can you tell me why x player appears to have been asked to play a different role in today’s game?” (Before the game). then I have to pretend like I haven’t changed anything… This kills immersion instantly. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitza Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, andu1 said: Ive seen AI using a DLP and mezalla in a 442... thats no cover for defense.. at all I use DLP and Mezalla plenty of times and it works fine 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 46 minutes ago, Mars_Blackmon said: They should prioritize the accuracy of the match engine over appearance and fix it properly. Finishing doesn't have anything to do with what I pointed out. Oh you are one of those stat obsessed people who want a match engine that just creates life like stats rather than looks like football. Personally I'd rather have an ME that actually resembles football as I'm not playing Statman Manager 24, I'm playing football manager 24... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mitza said: I use DLP and Mezalla plenty of times and it works fine With a 4-4-2? Check AI and see the teams that are using 4-4-2 have always the most conceded goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars_Blackmon Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said: Oh you are one of those stat obsessed people who want a match engine that just creates life like stats rather than looks like football. Personally I'd rather have an ME that actually resembles football as I'm not playing Statman Manager 24, I'm playing football manager 24... Ok. That adds nothing to the conversation. I have no interest in getting into tribalism debates. Edited October 25, 2023 by Mars_Blackmon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeegBCFC Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I am glad that in the season review my "Match to Remember" is a 4-3 thriller and not some dull 1-1 draw like it was on FM23 every season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, Mars_Blackmon said: Ok. That adds nothing to the conversation. Yes it does it adds I'd rather have a ME that plays like and looks like a game of football than one that is frustrating to watch as it is artificially trying to recreate real life stats. But hey let's just respect other people's opinions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Frankly , if i had access to the editor.. to remove the 4-4-2 from all the AI managers profiles with a formation that has a DM... The game would be a 9 out of 10.. Right now it really bugs me to see all those high results, mostly connected to 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jayedson Posted October 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2023 More team meeting / dynamics fun...this one is a classic for sure... > But: > Could literally be one point in it or goal difference between these targets so it's always bizarre how the reactions are so polarised. Even if the target set was much more optimistic, I don't think any professional football players would be offended or hurt, perhaps surprised at their manager's optimism or intrigued as to how the manager thought they would be able to overperform this season and that's about it. Even if the mechanics weren't touched and there was just a terminology update specifically for season targets so 'offended' and 'hurt' were replaced with 'surprised' and 'intrigued' and the red highlight toned down to an amber, it would be a little less immersion-breaking. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BnadnerB Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Zoolok42 said: I skipped the last year's edition, as the one before (FM 22) didn't give me all that much fun as it used to, so I thought to give FM24 a shot, and after three hours, it's the same game as FM22 - Infinite clicks to do infinite chores in convoluted menus that look like Windows 95. Being a football manager is boring, if it is to be judged by this game, although I can also accept that, in my middle-age part of life, I am no longer the target audience. It's just so boring and repetitive to "play" this chore of a game, and it's not simple enough to pick it up for 20 minutes and then do something else, you really have to invest yourself and your time into infinite menus to get to the match, that you skip most of in the end, anyway. I guess this isn't for me any more, which is something I never thought I would say, since my first one was CM3. Bonus points for manager having face paint, I am sure that was the bit that was separating FM from greatness FM Console or Touch mate - it rekindled the love for me and is essentially the heart of FM without all of the bloat and rubbish of todays game. I’m sure FM24 is great, but I like to actually have a life also! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars_Blackmon Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said: Yes it does it adds I'd rather have a ME that plays like and looks like a game of football than one that is frustrating to watch as it is artificially trying to recreate real life stats. But hey let's just respect other people's opinions... As I mentioned earlier, I do not have an interest in debates that pit one group against another. I suggest that you follow your own advice about respecting the opinions of others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Red Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I have been playing the game for 10 + years but over recent years I am becoming more and more disillusioned with the game and judging by the time I have spend on the FM24 Beta this one appears to be the same. what is the point of having a game based on realism and tactical nouse when the game appears to have already decided what will happen in any given match regardless of tactics, team selection etc… it is making it so obvious now that it’s actually embarrassing and really makes you ask the question of what is the point of the game if tactics, team selection etc have no bearing on the match, You can see it as the game is going on, you can predict what will happen and it is becoming easier and easier to predict because the game already knows what is going to happen regardless of what the player does…. I really don’t see the point of a game that works like this and it’s so disappointing because I really used to love this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTheLoveOfTheGame Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Saudi wages for AI signings are too high. In my save Al Hilal signed Ricardo Horta and Jose Gaya and gave them 800k a week wages. That’s over 300k more than Mitrovic, Koulibaly etc are paid. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Novem9 said: Not sure what exactly you showed here. It's still broken: Considering that this bug is already 4 years old, it's just a shame I showed the exact thing I quoted. Not the June transfers in the previous season, the other question about seasons resetting when leaving and returning. If you are going to correct me, please make sure you read the question correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasonen Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I'm sorry have to link this here too. Fulham lost 8-0 and didn't make a single sub ;D AI vs AI game. Die!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars_Blackmon Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pasonen said: I'm sorry have to link this here too. Fulham lost 8-0 and didn't make a single sub ;D AI vs AI game. Die!! After loading my level 10 save from FM23, I noticed that teams rarely substitute players. When they do, it's usually only one player at the very end of the game. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasonen Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, Mars_Blackmon said: After loading my level 10 save from FM23, I noticed that teams rarely substitute players. When they do, it's usually only one player at the very end of the game. Okay. Thats not good.. It could have big impact on development and happines? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibs1875 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 That’s me gone ten months without a clean sheet in league 😂 never seen the likes of this having played every edition of game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars_Blackmon Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Pasonen said: Okay. Thats not good.. It could have big impact on development and happines? Yes, I think there is a trickle-down effect. The lack of substitutes might also impact goals as players may have poor conditioning late in the game and going into the next game. I also believe that people initially claimed that AI transfers were still broken because newly signed players were not playing any games. That's obviously true if teams aren't using subs. Although the problem seems more apparent with leagues running full detailed sims. Edited October 25, 2023 by Mars_Blackmon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
endtime Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Pasonen said: I'm sorry have to link this here too. Fulham lost 8-0 and didn't make a single sub ;D AI vs AI game. Die!! When I get battered like that I usually also don't change anything, just tab out and browse the net until the match is over. Very realistic. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 37 минут назад, XaW сказал: I showed the exact thing I quoted. Not the June transfers in the previous season, the other question about seasons resetting when leaving and returning. If you are going to correct me, please make sure you read the question correctly. omg this is literally what asked for This is transfer of NEW season, which added as transfer of PREV season Edited October 25, 2023 by Novem9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, bezarkane said: - Some player targets are way too risky in my opinion, I fulfil my promise regardless of the outcome so that the players doesn't get angry at me. Average rating of 7 is too low for me as a manager and 7.5 is too high for most players in most leagues. We should be able to increment by .25 You can get figures between 7 and 7.5, i have someone needing to reach 7.3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJofSpades Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Not sure if it's been posted already, but praising multiple players training is really bad this year. FM23 could highlight multiple in 'Individual' part of Training, and praise from that screen. Needs to be brought back 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinthebest Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) am i the only one who is dominating the game by possession but creating less than almost 10 shots almost every game? Edited October 25, 2023 by robinthebest 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Andy_Red said: what is the point of having a game based on realism and tactical nouse when the game appears to have already decided what will happen in any given match regardless of tactics, team selection etc… it is making it so obvious now that it’s actually embarrassing and really makes you ask the question of what is the point of the game if tactics, team selection etc have no bearing on the match, Sorry, but that is absolute nonsense, no offence. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibs1875 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, robinthebest said: am i the only one who is dominating the game by possession by less than almost 10 shots almost every game? No happens to me too! I am in europa last 16 second season with hibs yet now 44 league games without a clean sheet 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinthebest Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hibs1875 said: No happens to me too! I am in europa last 16 second season with hibs yet now 44 league games without a clean sheet 😂 sry i mean i am having too less shots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brawla123 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheJofSpades said: Not sure if it's been posted already, but praising multiple players training is really bad this year. FM23 could highlight multiple in 'Individual' part of Training, and praise from that screen. Needs to be brought back Players don't react well to being criticised either. Have a player who is consistently training bad and whenever I criticise him, he argues with me. So annoying. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, Novem9 said: omg this is literally what asked for This is transfer of NEW season, which added as transfer of PREV season That was the first part. I ONLY quoted the last line about going back and forth through the pages and it not changing years. It feels quite clear to me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzek Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Hi guys, I have a question. Why is no one talking about the woodwork’s hits not being listed correctly in match stats? It was a problem that existed in FM23 and the match team said the numbers they see internally are normal. If there is a problem reporting all shots hitting the woodwork then that explains the problem. I see 1-3 shots hitting the woodwork in almost every match which I don't think looks like what happens in real life. Here is my bug report 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 41 minutes ago, brawla123 said: Players don't react well to being criticised either. Have a player who is consistently training bad and whenever I criticise him, he argues with me. So annoying. Sell him, players like that do exist in real life tbf. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Novem9 said: omg this is literally what asked for This is transfer of NEW season, which added as transfer of PREV season I wouldn't call that a bug. Seasons in FM switchover at a specific date, usually around 20th June. If that is after the transfer window has opened then any transfers before 20th June will be seen by the game as the season before most of the window. It's not broken. It is just how the game works. "Fixing it" would require changing a system that has been present in FM for some time, the season changeover date. It doesn't break the game, just looks a bit off when you view your transfers. If this is the biggest problem with FM for some people, then SI have nothing to worry about. At the end of the day it has to be understood that FM is a game, not the real world. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Is this a new feature? Kevin Dawson is my player. He doesn't have any coaching duties, nor coaching attributes. I've never seen a player do coaching badges before. I've seen them retire and then get coaching attributes, as has been in the game for some time. If this is new then I really like it. I hope to see a system whereby your players fit into your backroom team in some way after they retire. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitza Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, anagain said: I wouldn't call that a bug. Seasons in FM switchover at a specific date, usually around 20th June. If that is after the transfer window has opened then any transfers before 20th June will be seen by the game as the season before most of the window. It's not broken. It is just how the game works. "Fixing it" would require changing a system that has been present in FM for some time, the season changeover date. It doesn't break the game, just looks a bit off when you view your transfers. If this is the biggest problem with FM for some people, then SI have nothing to worry about. At the end of the day it has to be understood that FM is a game, not the real world. Lol you're just making things up - this is definitely a bug and it has been for a few editions, it's not a feature. I called it on the bug tracker a while ago and SI said that it's a known bug. It's not game breaking but it's very annoying. You could make your first signing of the 2024/2025 season and you'll get a message saying you hit the biggest transfer expenditure record in your club's history as it's registered towards the 2023/2024 season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I'm not trying to spam the forum, honest. Just noticing things atm. I'm noticing a discrepancy in the text and I think it's confusing. It is to do with interaction with players. If I right click a player and open their Interaction menu I get the option to "Speak About" that player. If I go to the player's profile it's "Discuss". I just loaded up FM23 and it was the same. Is there something I'm not understanding here? When you "Speak About" are you talking to others too, and when you "Discuss", just the player? If it's the same then the wording should really be the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marinho Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Does it make sense that in "Your World" Sassuolo and Atalanta have very big negative transfer budgets? This transfer activity doesn't exactly scream "spent too much, so they are 63 mio in the red"? In "Original" it is a 15 mio transfer budget with barely different transfers (51 spend, 91 received). In "Real World" it is also a 15 mio Budget. Edited October 25, 2023 by Marinho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mitza said: Lol you're just making things up - this is definitely a bug and it has been for a few editions, it's not a feature. I called it on the bug tracker a while ago and SI said that it's a known bug. It's not game breaking but it's very annoying. You could make your first signing of the 2024/2025 season and you'll get a message saying you hit the biggest transfer expenditure record in your club's history as it's registered towards the 2023/2024 season. If you could direct me to them saying it is a bug then I'll accept your correction. I can only go on what I've seen, and my experience. I've never, in 20+ years of playing FM, seen this referred to as a bug. This is the first time I have seen it talked about. Maybe it is just that they'd rather it was different, but because of the switchover date it's not a simple thing to change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Walds Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, anagain said: Is this a new feature? Kevin Dawson is my player. He doesn't have any coaching duties, nor coaching attributes. I've never seen a player do coaching badges before. I've seen them retire and then get coaching attributes, as has been in the game for some time. If this is new then I really like it. I hope to see a system whereby your players fit into your backroom team in some way after they retire. No, that's not new. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 41 минуту назад, anagain сказал: I wouldn't call that a bug. Seasons in FM switchover at a specific date, usually around 20th June. If that is after the transfer window has opened then any transfers before 20th June will be seen by the game as the season before most of the window. It's not broken. It is just how the game works. "Fixing it" would require changing a system that has been present in FM for some time, the season changeover date. It doesn't break the game, just looks a bit off when you view your transfers. If this is the biggest problem with FM for some people, then SI have nothing to worry about. At the end of the day it has to be understood that FM is a game, not the real world. It worked fine until fm21 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitza Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, anagain said: If you could direct me to them saying it is a bug then I'll accept your correction. I can only go on what I've seen, and my experience. I've never, in 20+ years of playing FM, seen this referred to as a bug. This is the first time I have seen it talked about. Maybe it is just that they'd rather it was different, but because of the switchover date it's not a simple thing to change. Edited October 25, 2023 by Mitza 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staco Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Has anyone tried simming far into the future yet? Curious to see how the regens are developing. Feels like the last few football manager games they slowed down the regen progression. Edited October 25, 2023 by Staco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadecane Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 hours ago, kiingallen said: Disappointing that in press conferences/pre-match interviews the journalist knows that a player role has changed before a game. The journalist (potentially AI managers?) essentially knows every tweak you’ve made to your tactic and even tell you when you’ve changed a player role before they’ve even kicked off. E.g. “can you tell me why x player appears to have been asked to play a different role in today’s game?” (Before the game). then I have to pretend like I haven’t changed anything… This kills immersion instantly. Ehh I dont think this quite works like that. I get asked that question often when I havnt changed nobodys role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mitza said: Fair enough. Big enough to hold my hands up and say I was wrong. Can only go on what I've seen, but not just me saying it still does seem to be regarding league switchover date, so I was at least speculating the same as other people. Thinking back, it has happened to me, but I never considered it a bug. Just, like I say, to do with switchover date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femdimes Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Am I the only one who's player's immediately go back to neutral after pre-game and half time talks no matter what there reaction was? It's driving me nuts. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadecane Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, Femdimes said: Am I the only one who's player's immediately go back to neutral after pre-game and half time talks no matter what there reaction was? It's driving me nuts. Yeah happens to me too 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIR669 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 What do you mean "a block", lets just leave him unmarked for 4 seconds. Like what's he gonna do, shoot? Nah. fm_5B79jxfOxW.mp4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIR669 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Oh yeah almost forgot... 38 so far mid February! Each of my starting 11 was out for at least 2-3 weeks, not even mentioning GK mass injuries others reported as well. Super unrealistic. Latest one is cruciate ligaments on my best player - which is a save breaker... No reason to continue powering through a flawed beta ME. Edited October 25, 2023 by TIR669 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnieekelund Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Hibs1875 said: That’s me gone ten months without a clean sheet in league 😂 never seen the likes of this having played every edition of game It's your tactics 😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrdavidson95 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Hibs1875 said: That’s me gone ten months without a clean sheet in league 😂 never seen the likes of this having played every edition of game Feels like my opposition score with about 85% of their shots on target, regardless of where they are hit from. Meanwhile my team hit the woodwork 4 times a match. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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