FM07forever Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 FM07 career game. Fenerbahce bring to an end my run of 12 consecutive Champions League titles by beating me in the quarter finals and go on to win it. Looking back, their run to the final was spectacular. They only got through the group stage thanks to an 88th minute goal in their last group match With Milan, Ajax and Fenerbahce level on points, I believe it goes to results between teams. These are also all level - with each winning one (2-1), losing one (2-1) and drawing 2 (0-0). So then what is used? All ideas welcome? It can't be away goals between teams - because that would put Milan 1st. It can't be away goals in total, because that would put Milan 1st. It can't be GD in total, because that would put Milan 2nd. It can't be goals scored in total, because that would put Milan 2nd. It can't be UEFA coefficient, because that would put Milan 2nd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Am I missing something here, Fenerbahce are ahead of Milan in the co-efficient table? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM07forever Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said: Am I missing something here, Fenerbahce are ahead of Milan in the co-efficient table? But then why are Ajax top? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Imaginary coin toss? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Doesn't it turn into a mini league in this case? Ie, the games against Genk are removed and that table decides it. I think that's the rules with 3 teams on even points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM07forever Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 57 minutes ago, XaW said: Doesn't it turn into a mini league in this case? Ie, the games against Genk are removed and that table decides it. I think that's the rules with 3 teams on even points. Their mini league would be identical - as they all have the same results against each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, FM07forever said: Their mini league would be identical - as they all have the same results against each other. But the goal difference might change, as their results against Genk could change it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'Appy \'Ammer Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 What do the rules state in the competition screen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Yeah, it should be away goals. So it would be AC Milan (3) > Fenerbahce (2) > Ajax (0). That would've been the rule according to the 07-08 UCL at least. Have a look at the rules page in game though, maybe they were using something slightly different? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackettdagenham Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) According to one of my FM2007 saves, Group stage league sorting rules are as follows: Results Between Teams Goals Difference Goals Scored Coefficient Edited August 20, 2023 by wackettdagenham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM07forever Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 Yes, that's same as mine! Poor Milan must feel very hard done by. Good to know that Fenerbahce would have qualified anyway if the rules had been followed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rowell Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 19/08/2023 at 18:53, XaW said: But the goal difference might change, as their results against Genk could change it. Mini-league calculation again shows them all identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rowell Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I suspect we're looking for a reason that isn't there, it seems like a bug to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Unless there's an 'under the hood' coin toss that happens in such occasions. I'd be amazed if that was built into the code, however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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