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I just wanted to start a thread for South American players and also hidden gems.

I will start with a few I have found in my Sporting Lisbon save.

Matheus Franca - 18 Year Old Brazilian Attacking Midfielder

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I managed to sign Franca for £7.5m from Flamengo and he has been amazing so far.

Matheus Nascimento - 18 Year Old Brazilian Striker

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He hasn't played much for me yet but has high potential and scoring for fun for my reserves. I will be giving him more game time gradually. I signed him from Botafogo for £5m

Santiago Hezze - 21 Year Old Argentinian Defensive Midfielder

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Hezze was signed as a replacement for Manuel Ugarte and has done very well as his replacement so far. I signed him from Hurracan for £8.75m

Emerson - 18 Year Old Brazilian Winger

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Emerson is a skillful winger I signed for £4m from Atletico Paranaense. One for the future indeed.

Leandro Mamut - 19 Year Old Argentinian Attacking Midfielder

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Mamut is a talented attacking midfielder who fits perfect for my tactic I use. 

I signed him from Gimnasia for £10.25m

Joel Alcantara - 17 Year Old Brazilian Left Back

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My DOF signed Alcantara from Swiss side Vaduz for a bargain £1m. The annoying thing is I probably wont get the best out of him on this save as I already have very talented Left Back's in Tran Van and Amadou Ndiaye but Alacantara is definitely one to look out for.

Angelo - 18 Year Old Brazilian  Winger/Striker

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I am really excited about Angelo who has the talent and potential to become a goalscoring machine. He needs to improve on his finishing but with 15 in Dribbling and decent Acceleration and Pace he should terrorize opposition defences.

I signed him for £14.25m from Santos but I think you could get him for less.

If anyone like @Jogo Bonito or @Welshace comes across any then please feel free to mention them in here.

 

 

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Another few South Americans worth looking at.

Murilo Oncken - 17 Year Old Brazilian Striker

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I tried to sign him for Sporting but Liverpool snapped him up. 

He looks like a right talent.

Mauro Rolando - 16 Year Old Uruguayan Right Back

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I signed Rolando a few seasons into my St.Etienne save and he was very good.

I have tried to sign him for Sporting but he wants to continue at Nacional for now. 

A very good Right Back.

 

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Keepers: Expensive but really really good: Luiz Junior, Bento. Good option for LLM: Matheus Donelli
Defenders (Centre): Good bargains: Sergio Barreto, Beraldo, Romulo.
Fullbacks: Good options for strong teams: Heitor (right), Welington (left).
Def Midfielders: David Ayala (Dlp), Jonathan Corozo (BTB), Amilton (Anchor), Santiago Longo (Carillero), Matias Kranevitter (Def Midfielder), Pepe (BTB), Murilo (Dlp), Giuliano Galoppo (BTB)
Att Midfielders: Raphel Veiga, Matias Miranda.
Wingers: Matheus Alisson (right footed), Giovane (left footed), Santiago Moreno (right footed), Fransisco Gonzalez (left footed), Mateo Silvetti (either footed), Airton (right footed), Facundo Kruspzky (right footed).
Super bargain for LLM: Alisson Santos (right footed), world class not based in SA: Valentin Carboni (left footed).
Forwards: Lincoln (CEC), Rodrigo Cezar, GB, Abiel Osorio, Ignacio Maestro Puch, Eguinaldo, Alexander Sosa, Alejo Veliz, Federico Girotti.

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Victor Hugo looks an interesting one.. very much an Enganche or Requelme type in my eyes... 

 

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Francisco Gonzalez .. a winger who can cross.. rare these days

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Garayalde .. super hard working midfielder who can attack and defend... love them

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Pedro .. bit older but a top top striker for any established side.

 

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Bento .. one of the best obtainable GK's in the game i think...

 

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Cheers for the suggestions guys. Keep them coming.

Here is a few more I have found.

Jair - 18 Year Old Central Defender - Santos

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Joao Lourenco - 18 Year Old Brazilian Winger - Fluminense

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Rodriguinho - 20 Year Old Brazilian Attacking Midfielder - America Mineiro

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Lima - 18 Year Old Brazilian Attacking Midfielder - Athletico Paranaense

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Deivid Washington - 18 Year Old Brazilian Striker - Santos

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On 09/03/2023 at 21:40, Ronaldo Beckham said:

I haven't signed him yet but Vitor Roque from Atletico Paranaenense looks like a proper talented player.

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He is a monster irl, he was just been called in the Brazil national team. Didn't suggest him because I thought he was already in Europe lol 🤣

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1 minute ago, Poison said:

He is a monster irl, he was just called in the Brazil national team. Didn't suggest him because I thought he was already in Europe lol 🤣

Oh ok awesome.  

There are so many Brazilian wonderkids I have found so far.

They are up there with France for producing amazing player after amazing player.

 

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Vitor Roque is definitely my number 1 target. This is a great thread for me actually, because I'm going to start a save with Benfica 👍🏻

I've heard of Franca, he's definitely on my list too. Thauan Lara is a good LB too btw 👍🏻

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1 hour ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Fabricio Ventresca will cost you probably near £20m but he is one hell of a player.

I couldn't afford to sign him for Sporting and he eventually went to West Ham. They signed him for £16.25m from Boca Juniors and his value has gone up to £65m already.

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:eek::eek:

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4 hours ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Fabricio Ventresca will cost you probably near £20m but he is one hell of a player.

I couldn't afford to sign him for Sporting and he eventually went to West Ham. They signed him for £16.25m from Boca Juniors and his value has gone up to £65m already.

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WTF. Never even heard of this guy 😲

Vitor Roque will still be my number 1 striker target, but this guy could easily play on the wings if retrained.

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Found an elite midfielder named Danilo (probably well known, but I didn't know him - left footed too), however I think he's at Nottingham Forest now so not sure if it counts. Very expensive of course but worth it.

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6 hours ago, kopfan1977 said:

:eek::eek:

 

4 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

WTF. Never even heard of this guy 😲

Vitor Roque will still be my number 1 striker target, but this guy could easily play on the wings if retrained.

I have all sorts of different data files. I even have one that has new wonderkids that the normal FM database doesn't have so maybe it is cos of that. 

Have you been able to find him on your save?

FM Scout have him on there.

https://www.fmscout.com/player/2000122576/fabricio-ventresca.html

 

 

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I have had a few people message me asking what database I use. 

I tick all players from South America as I have a very good gaming laptop so I can have a huge database but it wont affect my speed too much.

You don't need to do that to get the players I have mentioned.

You can either just tick all players from Brazil as most of the players I have mentioned are Brazilian or just tick Brazil and then tick players from top clubs or top divisions if you want a bigger database.

 

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On 09/03/2023 at 05:16, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Deivid Washington - 18 Year Old Brazilian Striker - Santos

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It was pre-patch but he wasn't any worse at that point... bought Mr. Washington on a whim after getting Luton promoted in teh first season. In the summer of 2023, I missed on a few promising strikers and ended up buying him for 3m almost entirely because he could get a Work Permit. He did pretty solid in our first season in the Prem but not amazing... but one was one of those players who was constantly improving. Was shocked when he was top ten on the Next Gen list. Never went further with the save but definitely someone I would target again in a save if possible. 

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On 08/03/2023 at 10:38, Ronaldo Beckham said:

I just wanted to start a thread for South American players and also hidden gems.

I will start with a few I have found in my Sporting Lisbon save.

Matheus Franca - 18 Year Old Brazilian Attacking Midfielder

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I managed to sign Franca for £7.5m from Flamengo and he has been amazing so far.

Matheus Nascimento - 18 Year Old Brazilian Striker

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He hasn't played much for me yet but has high potential and scoring for fun for my reserves. I will be giving him more game time gradually. I signed him from Botafogo for £5m

Santiago Hezze - 21 Year Old Argentinian Defensive Midfielder

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Hezze was signed as a replacement for Manuel Ugarte and has done very well as his replacement so far. I signed him from Hurracan for £8.75m

Emerson - 18 Year Old Brazilian Winger

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Emerson is a skillful winger I signed for £4m from Atletico Paranaense. One for the future indeed.

Leandro Mamut - 19 Year Old Argentinian Attacking Midfielder

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Mamut is a talented attacking midfielder who fits perfect for my tactic I use. 

I signed him from Gimnasia for £10.25m

Joel Alcantara - 17 Year Old Brazilian Left Back

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My DOF signed Alcantara from Swiss side Vaduz for a bargain £1m. The annoying thing is I probably wont get the best out of him on this save as I already have very talented Left Back's in Tran Van and Amadou Ndiaye but Alacantara is definitely one to look out for.

Angelo - 18 Year Old Brazilian  Winger/Striker

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I am really excited about Angelo who has the talent and potential to become a goalscoring machine. He needs to improve on his finishing but with 15 in Dribbling and decent Acceleration and Pace he should terrorize opposition defences.

I signed him for £14.25m from Santos but I think you could get him for less.

If anyone like @Jogo Bonito or @Welshace comes across any then please feel free to mention them in here.

 

 

I can in fact attest to the fact that Matheus Franca is an excellent signing for the future. While he looks great at 17 y.o at the start of the game, 3 years into the game he can turn into a veritable beast!

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Right now I am about to trigger that 15 million release clause to add him to my Fulham team. He shall fill the False 9 supporting striker role in my 4-2-4 rather nicely. 

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On 12/03/2023 at 08:23, Welshace said:

look great in yours!

 

Here he is at the beginning 

 

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On 12/03/2023 at 12:20, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Maybe he developed in the first season or it might have been a fluke. 

I just loaded up a new save with Boca just to see what he is like at the start of the game and here is a screenshot of him.

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@Welshace

 @Ronaldo Beckham

 

He has completely random attributes every time. Decent PA range, but Zero's everywhere in the editor

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15 hours ago, crusadertsar said:

I can in fact attest to the fact that Matheus Franca is an excellent signing for the future. While he looks great at 17 y.o at the start of the game, 3 years into the game he can turn into a veritable beast!

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Right now I am about to trigger that 15 million release clause to add him to my Fulham team. He shall fill the False 9 supporting striker role in my 4-2-4 rather nicely. 

Wow he looks awesome for you. 

Here he is for me at 20 years old.

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4 hours ago, kopfan1977 said:

 

@Welshace

 @Ronaldo Beckham

 

He has completely random attributes every time. Decent PA range, but Zero's everywhere in the editor

Yeah I thought the same that it was a fluke. 

I wish I had the money to sign him before he went to West Ham.

 

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1 hour ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Wow he looks awesome for you. 

Here he is for me at 20 years old.

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Yeah I thought the same that it was a fluke. 

I wish I had the money to sign him before he went to West Ham.

 

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Yeah yours is good but I guess I really lucked out in my save. Didn't realize there was so much random factor in his development. 

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18 hours ago, billysafc said:

I've always liked them. Incredible youth players and academy

Yeah that was one of the main reasons I'm going them, great youth. With the league not being the strongest, it's much easier giving the youth players chances in the first team too. I really wanted to use Schjelderup as well so it made the decision easy.

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I’ve started a Benfica save as was struggling for a bit of inspiration this year. I do saves with Airdrieonians and Real Oviedo to death each year so time for something different.

Will be intrigued to see how you guys’ development with the players pans out, clearly there are some very talented players in the academy but seems there are 130 odd players on the books across A team, B team, U23 and U19. Just need to work out who I’m going to concentrate on.

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38 minutes ago, kerrdavidson95 said:

I’ve started a Benfica save as was struggling for a bit of inspiration this year. I do saves with Airdrieonians and Real Oviedo to death each year so time for something different.

Will be intrigued to see how you guys’ development with the players pans out, clearly there are some very talented players in the academy but seems there are 130 odd players on the books across A team, B team, U23 and U19. Just need to work out who I’m going to concentrate on.

Nice. I'll be interested to see how you get on, as I'm going Benfica myself. I'm considering buying a new system for FM though so I'm holding off starting for now.

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Some other recommendations:

GK: Paolo Sosaya 

RB: Estevan Gaucho

MC: Bento Estrela, Gabriel Yuske, Hamed Al-Balushi, Matheus Franca, Ibrahima Bamba

Wingers & Strikers: Ignacio Charrutti, Angelo, Vitor Roque and Murilo Oncken

 

I am playing with Sporting Lissabon, now in my third season.

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1 hour ago, Gee_Simpson said:

What leagues are you all loading? Advanced database for South America?

Yeah I had all players from South America but I don't think you need to do that.

Just load players from the top clubs in South American leagues and you should easily find some hidden gems.

 

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6 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

What leagues are you all loading? Advanced database for South America?

I load the top 6 typical european leagues, a few others on view only, just so i can keep up with the results etc.. and then load a huge amount of players, around 220k players typically

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14 hours ago, Welshace said:

I load the top 6 typical european leagues, a few others on view only, just so i can keep up with the results etc.. and then load a huge amount of players, around 220k players typically

What CPU do you have? Also, how do you find the transfer market in your save? I remember reading a few years ago that if you loaded a small amount of playable leagues but lots of players, it would flood the market and have a negative affect.

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2 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

What CPU do you have? Also, how do you find the transfer market in your save? I remember reading a few years ago that if you loaded a small amount of playable leagues but lots of players, it would flood the market and have a negative affect.

Just an  i7-8750H in a laptop .. so aging a little now, but never had a single issue with it...

And yeah, the unbalanced database thing is a thing, but i never get that far into saves for it to be noticeable..... and it's mostly when you end up with just one or two leagues really.. 

My current game save i use has 26 leagues from mostly europe and the same 220k or so players...

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3 hours ago, Welshace said:

Just an  i7-8750H in a laptop .. so aging a little now, but never had a single issue with it...

And yeah, the unbalanced database thing is a thing, but i never get that far into saves for it to be noticeable..... and it's mostly when you end up with just one or two leagues really.. 

My current game save i use has 26 leagues from mostly europe and the same 220k or so players...

Thanks.

I've never been that far into a save either tbh, but I would imagine it's after 10+ years? I have a i9 9900k but was thinking of upgrading. It's still decent I suppose, but tech moves pretty fast nowadays, the latest cpu's are quite a bit better than mine now. I usually run around 40-50 leagues, but I guess I could reduce it to 20-30 and just load more players instead, as obviously it's the playable leagues that slow things down.

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Long time lurker, very rarely post!

I'm into the second season in my Sassuolo save, and I'm looking at a few brazilian players for my squad and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with them?

Arthur - attacking mid at Fluminese - my scouts rate him 4 stars

Giovani - winger at Palmerias - 4 star rating - has played a lot but not great ratings

Gabriel Veron - winger at FC Porto - formerly of Palmerias - 5 star rating but hardly played in the first season

Marcos Leonardo - Santos - looking at him for left wing rather than up front

Any thoughts would be much appreciated!

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5 hours ago, kopfan1977 said:

This lad cost me £3.2m from Univ. De Chile. 
Perfect inverted winger who performs fantastically. Only 18 or 19 at start of the game, Could do a good job right from the start.

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Wow he looks really good. What database settings did you have to find him?

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