MarkJS1 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 If playing a 4-3-3, what role is best for your single holding midfielder out of the 3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARRERA Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 HB if you want to build up with a back 3 and have both fullbacks participating in the final third Anchor if your match plan is around protecting space instead of pressing aggressively. DM if you are more into an aggressive defensive style. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosque Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 hours ago, CARRERA said: HB if you want to build up with a back 3 and have both fullbacks participating in the final third Anchor if your match plan is around protecting space instead of pressing aggressively. DM if you are more into an aggressive defensive style. And what context would be good for the DLP on Defend duty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frukox Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) @bosqueFor example, a low block trying to play through the middle where DLPD is only needed at the start of transitions to attack close to your own penalty area or in a 4-3-1-2 generally at the centre of the diamond for easing playing through the middle. Edited December 16, 2022 by frukox 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARRERA Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, bosque said: And what context would be good for the DLP on Defend duty? I occasionally use the DLP as a pivot in a possession based system to recycle the ball and rebuild the attack with a createive player. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Gems everywhere in this forum. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The3points Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 All dm roles for me: SV, RPM in 2s only BWM, REG in 2s or for really good sides as a sole DM HB for building up in a back 3 A between HB and DM DLP: Support role for 2s, defend for a buildup side where deep midfielder is needed to progress the play DM: Sits in front of defence like A (maybe higher), can build up like DLP, can step out like BWM. Depends on player. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Aragão Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 It just really depends on the player you have for that position and what do you want from him, considering the great comments above about these roles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overmars Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 The decision for me generally comes down to how good my wingbacks are and whether my AML/AMR players are playing as wingers or inside forwards. If I'm playing inside forwards then I want my wingbacks providing attacking width, and so an HB role makes sense to keep a safe back three setup in possession. When I'm using wingers then I can use inverted wingbacks, and then my options for the DM role open up to just about anything. I can adjust the mentality of the inverted wingbacks to compensate for what my DM is doing. If I use a HB then I can use IWB(a). If I use a DLP(s) then I might use IWB(s) roles. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXistenZ Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 16/12/2022 at 18:51, CARRERA said: I occasionally use the DLP as a pivot in a possession based system to recycle the ball and rebuild the attack with a createive player. What about a dlp on support duty with a higher pressing system/ high block in a 433? my idea is to use him as an outlet for defenders, while also being a creative force for the two runners in front of him (BBM + mez) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARRERA Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, eXistenZ said: What about a dlp on support duty with a higher pressing system/ high block in a 433? my idea is to use him as an outlet for defenders, while also being a creative force for the two runners in front of him (BBM + mez) A DLPs is quite agile and doesn’t provide as much depth as you might think. Your attacking shape might get too compressed under certain circumstances. You could compensate that by immediately exploiting the natural depth of a 433 by transitioning fast and direct. You can try it out anyway, if it works - it works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoyao Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 18/12/2022 at 03:54, The3points said: All dm roles for me: SV, RPM in 2s only BWM, REG in 2s or for really good sides as a sole DM HB for building up in a back 3 A between HB and DM DLP: Support role for 2s, defend for a buildup side where deep midfielder is needed to progress the play DM: Sits in front of defence like A (maybe higher), can build up like DLP, can step out like BWM. Depends on player. What does 2S mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 vor 1 Minute schrieb Aoyao: What does 2S mean? 2 DM systems (?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoyao Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, HanziZoloman said: 2 DM systems (?) Sounds like 2 suport duty in the DM slot. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Sure I was thinking about that too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prolix Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Aoyao said: What does 2S mean? "in twos", i.e. in double pivot partnerships. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panosgeo79 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) On 16/12/2022 at 14:17, MarkJS1 said: If playing a 4-3-3, what role is best for your single holding midfielder out of the 3? You have to consider the rest roles of your team for instance in my 433 i play with a right WBs and a left FBs with forward runs and underlaping an IWs with stay wider PI while my left midfielder is an CMa. Then you have to think that if those FBs go forward what DM should i use. I chose a HB to make a 3 back line for better protection even if the left FBs in not as aggressive as the right who goes all the way up most of the times and start higher So what matters is the rest roles of your team and their duties Edited December 21, 2022 by Panosgeo79 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasson Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 I look at it this way: I want to help my team in the build up phase. If my opponent plays a two-striker formation, I will sometimes make my DM a HB to create the numerical advantage in the back. If my opponent plays a one-striker formation, I tend to leave DM as a DMd operating behind their first line of pressure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximilli Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Initially I liked the HB role in this match engine, but after a while I noticed an issue. HB drops deeper, the CBs spread wide, but the HB is still a little higher than them oftentimes. Now when opponent striker rushes forward through the center and the ball is played to him, HB is too high up to get to him and CBs are too wide. Led to conceding a lot of goals like that. Don't know if that will be an issue in all styles. I personally play a very high line. But after switching to DM(d), the problem is solved. Defensively very solid now. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeblic Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 En 23/12/2022 a las 14:56, maximilli dijo: Initially I liked the HB role in this match engine, but after a while I noticed an issue. HB drops deeper, the CBs spread wide, but the HB is still a little higher than them oftentimes. Now when opponent striker rushes forward through the center and the ball is played to him, HB is too high up to get to him and CBs are too wide. Led to conceding a lot of goals like that. Don't know if that will be an issue in all styles. I personally play a very high line. But after switching to DM(d), the problem is solved. Defensively very solid now. I feel the same playing high line systems, and i solved switching to DM or playing a an anchor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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