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YUGOSLAVIA REBORN


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Hey there everyone! Recently I have been feeling a bit Nostalgic so I have decided to recreate the Nation that had existed in its full only two years before my birth. A nation that in Todays world would be one of the Super Powers in Football on pair with likes of France with it incredible talent pool that has produces the likes of Modrić, Rakitić, Mandzukić, Milinković-Savić, Oblak, Vlahović, Šeško, Ivanović, Dzeko, and many many others. 

What features can you expect? 

Main feature will obviously be ability to play in and with one of the legendary footballing nations. However this database will also have something that had not been seen in one of them in a very long time. What is that you may ask?

I plan to place the 27 year rule that will ensure that this country becomes extremely competitive as well as competitive in Europe as it did in real life. Yugoslav players will not be able to move abroad until they turn at least 27 years of age and all the Slovenian, Croatian, Bosnian, Serbian, Montenegrin, North Macedon & Kosovo players that play outside of the country will be readded back in to the team they started in before getting their move. Those players who came trough the Academy outside of the country wont be added in the clubs.

So you can expect the likes of Gvardiol , Šeško, Majer , Vlahović , Ilićić  , Brekalo, Bašić and many others to be the main faces of Yugoslav league...until they turn 27 and are bought by a big team. 

Also all the teams from nations included will have their trophy cabinets cleaned up from the Trophies they had won since the league became defunct (1991)...as I dislike seeing Trophies that are no longer active in the trophy cabinet. 

When can you expect it? 

I do not currently have any release date. I will be posting progress in here as it moves. If anyone is interested in helping with few bits and bobs. Feel free to DM me or just post in this thread. But  my goal with this one is to be the most in depth and detailed Yugoslavia available for FM23.

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UPDATE NUMBER ONE

Time flies quick when you are having fun! 

So far so good, I have completed the Pyramid for the Yugoslavia and cleaned up trophy history in each league that has been made inactive. I do have to note I converted Serbia to do this as using other Yugoslavia is seemingly bugged with random names. Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Slovenia & North Macedonia will be completely removed.  Now on to the good stuff

There will be 4 divisions + 5th which is split between five regions North(Slovenia), Center(Bosnia), West(Croatia), East (Serbia) and South (Montenegro,  Kosovo, North Macedonia). I wont be going lower then this as I those five regions will include the clubs from second and third divisions of the respected countries.  

Each division is split in to 18 teams.  4 teams get promoted each season and 4 teams get relegated except in 4th division where there is 5 relegated teams.  Regional leagues only have one promotion spot but not relegation as it is bottom of the pyramid.

Next up is work on Advanced rules after that is u27 block and then we go on to sorting out players....after that it is testing phase and I can begin thinking about releasing it. 

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Yes brother!

 

Here's hoping that you finish this project!

 

There was a database similar like this for FM21 (you can google it, fm 21 yugoslavia, huge project), tried to make it work for FM22, but was unsuccessful. Keep up the good work!

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@Reiverkeep an eye on this as information for our little Iron Curtain project :D

On 13/12/2022 at 01:16, wikifirelord said:

 

What features can you expect? 
Main feature will obviously be ability to play in and with one of the legendary footballing nations. However this database will also have something that had not been seen in one of them in a very long time. What is that you may ask?

I plan to place the 27 year rule that will ensure that this country becomes extremely competitive as well as competitive in Europe as it did in real life. Yugoslav players will not be able to move abroad until they turn at least 27 years of age and all the Slovenian, Croatian, Bosnian, Serbian, Montenegrin, North Macedon & Kosovo players that play outside of the country will be readded back in to the team they started in before getting their move. Those players who came trough the Academy outside of the country wont be added in the clubs.

Ahem, you might have missed the Iron Curtain FM20 version where this was done as well ;)

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2 hours ago, Wolf_pd said:

@Reiverkeep an eye on this as information for our little Iron Curtain project :D

Ahem, you might have missed the Iron Curtain FM20 version where this was done as well ;)

Was it? I had not played Iron Curtain in a very long time!  But I for sure plan to credit it as inspiration for it! :D

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UPDATE NUMBER TWO

 

New day new update!

And I have some good news and some bad news. 

Good news is I have finished the advanced rules settings for the entire pyramid including the match rules. For each division. 

Top & 2nd division.

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Third and fourth division.

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Regionals 

WIP (I forgot to edit them  so atm same as third and fourth whoops)

Aaand now for bad news...

I got this bug...which made me chuckle a little bit but il figure it out how to fix it also  both Kup Maršala Tita and Super Cup are not working...I have a feeling I know why. If that is the case I will need to redo Advanced rules meaning a day of work will go to waste (unless someone here knows how to add another competition to the Advanced rules without remaking it if so please help ) 

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Hopefully I have some more update tomorrow! 

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13 hours ago, wikifirelord said:

Was it? I had not played Iron Curtain in a very long time!  But I for sure plan to credit it as inspiration for it! :D

If you have FM20 and need some pointers and possibly want to copy some stuff, let me know.

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2 hours ago, Wolf_pd said:

If you have FM20 and need some pointers and possibly want to copy some stuff, let me know.

I will certainly pop you a DM with few questions! :)

This is my very first time working a database like this so any help is welcome! :)

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16 hours ago, wikifirelord said:

I got this bug...which made me chuckle a little bit but il figure it out how to fix it also  both Kup Maršala Tita and Super Cup are not working...I have a feeling I know why. If that is the case I will need to redo Advanced rules meaning a day of work will go to waste (unless someone here knows how to add another competition to the Advanced rules without remaking it if so please help ) 

Check up the "Continental Cup Nation" for every club once again - seems like you could left them unchanged...

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On 13/12/2022 at 00:16, wikifirelord said:



What features can you expect? 

Main feature will obviously be ability to play in and with one of the legendary footballing nations. However this database will also have something that had not been seen in one of them in a very long time. What is that you may ask?

I plan to place the 27 year rule that will ensure that this country becomes extremely competitive as well as competitive in Europe as it did in real life. Yugoslav players will not be able to move abroad until they turn at least 27 years of age and all the Slovenian, Croatian, Bosnian, Serbian, Montenegrin, North Macedon & Kosovo players that play outside of the country will be readded back in to the team they started in before getting their move. Those players who came trough the Academy outside of the country wont be added in the clubs.

So you can expect the likes of Gvardiol , Šeško, Majer , Vlahović , Ilićić  , Brekalo, Bašić and many others to be the main faces of Yugoslav league...until they turn 27 and are bought by a big team. 

really interested to see what you do to achieve this, will you show the settings?

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1 hour ago, RussoTuristo said:

Check up the "Continental Cup Nation" for every club once again - seems like you could left them unchanged...

Good call. Yes, it's the likely problem. So they will qualify for Kosovo/Slovenia/Bosnia instead of Yugoslavia (Serbia), so you end up with some 30-ish European qualifiers.

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UPTADE NUMBER THREE

First of all I want to thank everyone who made suggestions and offered solution how to fix the little issue I had with lots of teams qualifying for Europe in same season.

This has now been fixed and should work fine without any issues...however one problem still persists and that is the Super Cup and the main Domestic cup. I was able to copy advanced rules for them from another Yugoslavia database currently in existence in order for it to be active in the "advanced rules" 

However I am not sure why...the game is simply not detecting either of them. I have spent my post work evening trying to fix it and it just did not pick up. I reverted back from advanced rules to normal rules...however there I was not even able to select the cup or the super cup.  I have tried to change the days the said cup is set to be played, I have tried to change the amount of clubs participating in it (from best clubs to all clubs in advanced rules), I have tried to change the base year from 2000 to 2022 neither worked. 

Below I will post screenshot of the advanced rules of the Cup and if someone has any clue what is causing for it to brick and not be detected...please help....again haha.

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Start with checking your base years. The base year in general will be 2000 (this is a setting), so if your base year in the competitions and the base year in your cup is 2022, that's going to be an issue.

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UPDATE NUMBER FOUR

New day new update!

Good news! I finally was able to make progress, all the cups now work correctly and are detected by the game. And tests have worked well.  Now I have began to slowly slug trough thousands...and thousands of players (Players 26 years and younger) clearing their club history if they have left a team in Yugoslavia and moving them back in to the last team they played for in the country.

Some of the teams like Zvezda and Dinamo will have really strong teams. And there will be some youngsters at the teams in low divisions so it will be a bit of a battle to obtain them !

There wont be an update over the weekend as I will be traveling to Zagreb for company dinner.

But Monday onwards back to editing! 

 

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On 17/12/2022 at 17:47, Wolf_pd said:

Keep an eye on amount of players per team. You don't want a 200 player Dinamo.

Yes! I am fairly careful about it! I noticed once I started transferring players how many there were from the big boy teams. And decided to limit it to players with potential of 110 and higher and below age of 27. So 26 and under. 26-25 has been completed already. 

Lots players are not being transferred if they never played in any of the domestic divisions or their club is not included on the clubs in the leagues.

 

 

On 17/12/2022 at 18:01, TheWizard65 said:

Have fun and good luck with the update!

Thank you!


 

 

On 18/12/2022 at 02:10, Adzbabi said:

Great stuff, what will the prize money be? and does the prize money an sponsorships increase with a greater standing league?

I am not exactly sure. I plan on making max prize being around 15 mil pounds. 2nd place would get 10 mil and the rest is 9.5,9, etc.  Four teams that get relegated will get about 3-4 mil more then the 4 teams above them that survive in the league to help them rebuild and come back.

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16 minutes ago, wikifirelord said:

Yes! I am fairly careful about it! I noticed once I started transferring players how many there were from the big boy teams. And decided to limit it to players with potential of 110 and higher and below age of 27. So 26 and under. 26-25 has been completed already. 

Lots players are not being transferred if they never played in any of the domestic divisions or their club is not included on the clubs in the leagues.

 

 

Thank you!


 

 

I am not exactly sure. I plan on making max prize being around 15 mil pounds. 2nd place would get 10 mil and the rest is 9.5,9, etc.  Four teams that get relegated will get about 3-4 mil more then the 4 teams above them that survive in the league to help them rebuild and come back.

Where would the leauge sit in rankings? If around 7th to 10th maybe the prize money the other winners get around that would be more realistic. And can't wait for this!

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18 minutes ago, Adzbabi said:

Where would the leauge sit in rankings? If around 7th to 10th maybe the prize money the other winners get around that would be more realistic. And can't wait for this!

In the most recent test I had done, this was league ranking at the start.

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1 hour ago, dzukis87@gmail.com said:

How Qatar world cup looks like when start game, Yugoslavia is not there I guess?

How low you plan to go with transfers, mean, will try to do only first division? Or go down?

I am going based on potential (min 110). From 26 years old down. Where they end up. They end up. :)

As long as the club is in one of the leagues included they will have those players there.

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1 hour ago, dzukis87@gmail.com said:

Yes, that make sense, you will filter all Balkan players around the world with minimum 110 or -6 I guess.

You missed my question about WC 

Apologies for that. 

As Yugoslavia replaces Serbia it will take its spot. Meaning it will be at the World Cup.

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2 hours ago, wikifirelord said:

Apologies for that. 

As Yugoslavia replaces Serbia it will take its spot. Meaning it will be at the World Cup.

I guess the follow up question is then...will Croatia be at the world cup?

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1 hour ago, DrIgz said:

I guess the follow up question is then...will Croatia be at the world cup?

Yes. But they wont have any players.  Or if they do it will be bottom of the barrel players. And no new regens. I sadly had to keep them and Slovenia or the game outright bugged out and refused to work...unless I removed the League of Nations.

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On 13/12/2022 at 01:16, wikifirelord said:

I plan to place the 27 year rule that will ensure that this country becomes extremely competitive as well as competitive in Europe as it did in real life. Yugoslav players will not be able to move abroad until they turn at least 27 years of age

Where is this rule located? I have always wanted to stop young players leaving the country

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1 hour ago, dzukis87@gmail.com said:

IM interested does that rule block player to be unhappy bc want to leave abroad? Imagine you have player who is unhappy from 21 to 27 years :)

I have no clue to be honest. But if they want to move they simply wont be able to until they turn 27. Only place they would be able to go is to another Yugoslav team or stay free agent until 27.

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                                                                                                    UPDATE NUMBER FIVE

While slooowly going trough the players. Here is few screenies of teams best 11s and season dream team for each leagues!

Top division

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Second division 
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Third division 
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Fourth division
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Regional divisions

Center
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East
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South 
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North

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The big boys of the Yugoslavia

Dinamo Zagreb
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Hajduk Split 
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Crvena Zvezda(Red Star)
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Partizan
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Maribor

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FK Sarajevo

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That is all for today! :D

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29 minutes ago, dzukis87@gmail.com said:

Can we get screenshot of national team to see which players AI called?

This was the team AI selected for their first game in Nations League. With Benitez becoming the first Manager

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ALPHA 1.0

 

Howdy folks! So I am happy to announce that first Alpha of the Database is ready.


Why Alpha? Because it is far from finished.  Most of the major footballing names in Yugoslavia  are at their clubs. However there is still many players who are not. 

So with this alpha I need everyone who is interested to keep an eye on this things.


1. Any foreign teams bidding for Yugoslav player playing in Yugoslavia (I may have missed some nations or had not blocked properly)

2. Any obvious players who should be added at teams in Yuga

3. Any rules YOU think should be present

4. Positional awards are in...at least I think as I was able set it up but it does not show in game when checked. But i noticed big teams get fair bit of winnings.
 
5. Any potential changes


What I am aware of

1. Grammar mistakes. Will be fixed for final version

2. Somehow France is able to bring in some players (only seen one so far)

Graphics will come. I am fairly sure if you use any of the Graphics from previous years Yuga DBs .

Please let me know of any feedback <3 

Also Id kindly ask to not share it on other sites without my permission. 

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3 hours ago, wikifirelord said:

3. Any rules YOU think should be present

well, since you asked ;) 

I think "Extra U21/U22 National Subs after all other subs have been made" would be a good rule to add to the cups, and maybe some/all of the leagues. You can find it Squad Selection Rules > Overall Squad Rules > Misc > 4th from the bottom. Maybe change it to 3 subs out of 12 so teams still technically can make 5 subs, but they have to be young yugo players.

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5. Any potential changes

The predicted finish for clubs, multiple teams that have the same.

Maybe unretire some players from international retirement?

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