Haguey Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, enigmatic said: It's weird how every team ever to win an international tournament has been held back by their defensive manager.... Thing is, who was the last proper attacking team to win a World Cup or a Euros? Maybe Spain in 2008 before proper tiki-taka but even then it was all based around possession. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Come on Gareth, say how **** the ref was ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, SouthCoastRed said: Get out gloating Jock Turd Not even gloating. I don't mind England at all. ****ing hate your abysmal media and their ridiculous overexcitement/hype cycle every 2-4 years, but the English fans and especially squad are sound. I support an English club, a lot of my favourite players (past and present) are English/City players. I mean, i did laugh a little as is natural for a Scot, but if you'd won it all I'd have no problems with that. 3 minutes ago, anagain said: You deserve ridicule for that... Tbf, though, someone on discord suggested Scotty Parker Nah seriously think about it. OGS is good at bringing harmony to a dressing room and fostering team spirit. He promotes young players and he's clearly not good enough for club level. I could literally be describing Gareth Southgate here and nobody would know. It's not going to happen, but i do think he'd be a good manager for England. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, JD nawrat said: Send the Sam Signal up That's worse than OGS, to be fair. Keep them coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Ackter said: YOU HAD THE ENTIRE PITCH TO STOP THAT GOAL HAPPENING. ffs But if it's a foul then whatever happens after it doesn't matter, as it's a foul ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ackter said: YOU HAD THE ENTIRE PITCH TO STOP THAT GOAL HAPPENING. ffs And every player is out of position A fouls a foul, should be called. Edited December 10, 2022 by aiston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, JD nawrat said: Not even gloating. I don't mind England at all. ****ing hate your abysmal media and their ridiculous overexcitement/hype cycle every 2-4 years, but the English fans and especially squad are sound. I support an English club, a lot of my favourite players (past and present) are English/City players. I mean, i did laugh a little as is natural for a Scot, but if you'd won it all I'd have no problems with that. Nah seriously think about it. OGS is good at bringing harmony to a dressing room and fostering team spirit. He promotes young players and he's clearly not good enough for club level. I could literally be describing Gareth Southgate here and nobody would know. It's not going to happen, but i do think he'd be a good manager for England. I reckon he'll be on the shortlist for next Norway manager. He'll be reunited with Haaland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentwars Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Ackter said: But all the English managers are terrible. Which is why I was asking who we should go for if Southgate leaves. Howe or Potter would be obvious choices, but can't see them leaving their club sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Smallen said: Unless a left footed centre back comes along, there’s no need to replace Maguire as long as he keeps playing like he has done for England. Well he does, as he’s not playing for Man Utd this season, or as long as ETH is there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JD nawrat said: Send the Sam Signal up His international record is far better than Southgate... Edited December 10, 2022 by ginnybob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Gutted.... Its a missed opportunity 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Think Southgate will stay to the Euros. He can sense an opportunity to win a trophy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, aiston said: And every player is out of position Because they were so busy protesting the foul instead of getting back into position. All of France's players were out of position in their box but they still managed to get into shape quickly enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlander Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mr Adam said: It’s clutching at the clutchiest of straws. It probably was a foul but that’s football. Not a chance it was as clear as many make out. And it's not as if the goal was scored from the counter attack. England was able to regroup defensively, so that was just one of the possession attacks at that time. VAR could not even review it because of that. A bit naive to blame that goal on the ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, pearcey_90 said: Issue would be, does he move on this squad over the next 18 months? He clearly has favourites, so would he dare leave out Sterling/Maguire etc over that period when it’s likely they should be as the cycle with them is ending. Yeah obviously, we started with Foden and Saka so he is making those calls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Not 'our' night again. Think Kane changed his mind at the last minute, for his 2nd pen. Ref was pretty *****. The end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Who’s the football equivalent of Brendon McCullum? Iniesta maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Not sure some in here understand what happens in football from their posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, anagain said: That's worse than OGS, to be fair. Keep them coming. 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: His international record is far better than Southgate... Most winningest England manager ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Oh and Southgate 100% brought on Grealish for 5 seconds just so he could say he'd brought on Grealish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: His international record is far better than Southgate... His win percentage beats all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, silentwars said: Which is why I was asking who we should go for if Southgate leaves. Howe or Potter would be obvious choices, but can't see them leaving their club sides. Nah I can see Newcastle listening. They know they have the money to replace him with a high profile foreign manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, ginnybob said: His international record is far better than Southgate... Yeah, he got in, made a bit of money and got booted before he could get beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Urgh Did that penalty miss by as much as it looked like it did from my end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bob Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 First half was tight. Probably France edged it. 2nd half we were the better team. They took their chances, we didn't. I am gutted at losing but not disappointed in the players or manager. Apart from the USA game we were an enjoyable side to follow! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentwars Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Ackter said: Oh and Southgate 100% brought on Grealish for 5 seconds just so he could say he'd brought on Grealish. His hand was forced because Stones was injured ... he wasn't going to bring him on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Astafjevs said: Think Southgate will stay to the Euros. He can sense an opportunity to win a trophy Yea he might get 3rd place playoff winner if he's lucky. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Weezer said: Urgh Did that penalty miss by as much as it looked like it did from my end? More. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 ITV signing out with Kiwanuka. That is so 2021. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I thought we looked ok, but mainly because when France were ahead, they were happy for us to keep the ball in unthreatening areas and trusted their defence not to concede any bad chances. And they were ahead for a considerable portion of the match. When it was 1-1 either we were playing even more slowly than usual or they tried to put a bit more pressure on higher up and overall I thought we were worse when the scores were even, Giroud could well have scored before his goal. But then again, we had half chances to score too, it could have gone either way on another day. The Kane chance when he was closed down by Lloris and the Saka goal were the only good chances we created imo, even the pens were not from the most promising positions, Hernandez was a moron as I didn't see Mount scoring there. Fair play to Southgate/Holland in getting the midfielders to be the crossing option on the right and leave Walker back at all times, I thought that was a good way of approaching the Mbappe problem. Rice did seem a bit isolated which makes him look worse than he is imo. I thought Saka was a bit weak in the first half but he did improve considerably whereas Foden just didn't look that dangerous on the times he got the ball. In other words, we were ok and weren't outclassed by a good team. But I think it is France sitting back that makes us look a bit better than we were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Weezer said: Urgh Did that penalty miss by as much as it looked like it did from my end? Yes and led to Matterface saying "England needed Lineker and got Waddle", or words along those lines. The ****ing *****. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Weezer said: Urgh Did that penalty miss by as much as it looked like it did from my end? That ball is orbiting the JW Telescope right now... Astronomers in US think they've found a rogue planet... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 There's a proper dearth of quality/successful England managers. If Southgate is replaced, it's either going to have to be an absolutely hopeful punt on someone or a successful foreigner. There's no successful English managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, The_jagster said: when France were ahead, they were happy for us to keep the ball in unthreatening areas and trusted their defence not to concede any bad chances Which makes it amazing England didn't win 6-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Weezer said: Urgh Did that penalty miss by as much as it looked like it did from my end? The NASA unmanned space mission have just filmed it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Weezer said: Urgh Did that penalty miss by as much as it looked like it did from my end? You'll be home before the ball. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
git2thachoppa Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 England fans are so miserable. I've always said, even if they won a trophy, fans'd be moaning we're not winning every game 3-0 now. And if England did, they'd be moaning that it's not 5-0. Do that already actually. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I think we can be proud, looked like one of the best teams at times and went out to a superb side. Gutted, but still very proud. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Weezer said: Urgh Did that penalty miss by as much as it looked like it did from my end? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Thought we played well on the night. It’s top level football, **** happens. I don’t think it’s a game we can look back on and think we played badly or did anything tactically horrendous. I thought in the second half we were much the better side. Kane scores the penalty or Rashford scores the free kick and who knows what happens, it’s narrow margins at this level in a tournament like this. Think we can be proud of the team and their performance. Probably should’ve beaten them on the night, ref wasn’t great, personally wouldn’t have taken Saka off, but overall think we did very well over the 90 minutes or so and it’s the narrow margins that cost us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Thought we were the better team, should have had 3 penalties. Just not enough directness with our attack. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 On the bright side we kept Mbappe quiet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: Yes and led to Matterface saying "England needed Lineker and got Waddle", or words along those lines. The ****ing *****. Matterface and Fuller, the blood brothers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, skybluedave said: On the bright side we kept Mbappe quiet Kyle Walker > 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, PaulHartman71 said: Thought we played well on the night. It’s top level football, **** happens. I don’t think it’s a game we can look back on and think we played badly or did anything tactically horrendous. I thought in the second half we were much the better side. Kane scores the penalty or Rashford scores the free kick and who knows what happens, it’s narrow margins at this level in a tournament like this. Think we can be proud of the team and their performance. Probably should’ve beaten them on the night, ref wasn’t great, personally wouldn’t have taken Saka off, but overall think we did very well over the 90 minutes or so and it’s the narrow margins that cost us. Yeah, no idea why he's taken Saka off. He had the run of the French team, and barring terrible officiating, was causing them problems. Poor decision yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, skybluedave said: On the bright side we kept Mbappe quiet That was Mbappe's one quiet game in the knockout stages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Right, am signing out of this thread now to do other stuff. Thoroughly enjoyable match, England should feel a little hard done by but the game was also there for the taking and they didn't take it. Someone tag me if if there's an hilarious breakdown or something in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentwars Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JD nawrat said: There's a proper dearth of quality/successful England managers. If Southgate is replaced, it's either going to have to be an absolutely hopeful punt on someone or a successful foreigner. There's no successful English managers. Wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers gets it, if we do change managers. Edited December 10, 2022 by silentwars Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Weezer said: Urgh Did that penalty miss by as much as it looked like it did from my end? it might actually have left the atmosphere by now 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, ginnybob said: Yeah, no idea why he's taken Saka off. He had the run of the French team, and barring terrible officiating, was causing them problems. Poor decision yet again. Did he take a knock, was he injured? Because he was playing so well it really is an out there decision to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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