Mahzun_Savas Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 South Korea does it. 3 teams from Asia Australia beat Denmark Japan beat Spain South Korea beats Portugal Remarkable effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 He's very clearly trying to buy a penalty so **** off, no sympathy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Harsh on Ghana, they were the only team in that group that had a proper go in all three games. Uruguay have only got themselves to blame. Only one shot on target all game in their opening 0-0, ends up costing them later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I reckon that Qatar are just bribing everyone to make this the most interesting World Cup in decades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Superb end to the game. Gutted for Suarez and Uruguay (not! ) Over the moon for South Korea. I'm sure Ghana will be disappointed, but many will be dining out on Suarez's salty tears tonight! Super drama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, darren1983 said: BBC all saying it was a pen. Not for me Clive. Definitely not but yes I am 100% biased 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bolton1987 said: Let's face it, Brazil versus a knackered geriatric Uruguay in the L16 would have been dreadful This team from today is everything but geriatric. It was just Suarez and Cavani rotating. Coates 32 and everyone else who started under 30. Their issue was that they played geriatric lineups in first two matches and today was apparently too late. I'd say that them going out is on Cristiano missing a handful of sitters. Edited December 2, 2022 by GunmaN1905 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mahzun_Savas said: South Korea does it. 3 teams from Asia Australia beat Denmark Japan beat Spain South Korea beats Portugal Remarkable effort Europe pretty embarrassing this year, although they may still win in the end, like in 2014 when they looked bad at first too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 East Asia 3-0 West Asia for qualification! Asian Cup coming up in Qatar next year too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, PMLF said: Europe pretty embarrassing this year, Lucky for Brexit then as England are playing quite well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Harsh on Ghana, they were the only team in that group that had a proper go in all three games. Uruguay have only got themselves to blame. Only one shot on target all game in their opening 0-0, ends up costing them later. That's why 2 of 4 is good, just defending can cost you. That Cavani shout clearly wasn't a pen, he just extends his leg rather than continuing running to buy contact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahzun_Savas Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Darius1998 said: East Asia 3-0 West Asia for qualification! Asian Cup coming up in Qatar next year too. Yeah, Iran and Saudi Arabia both played to get through and lost, but Saudi Arabia did beat Argentina which was remarkable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden boy Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, PMLF said: So Brazil vs Korea in the next round and then maybe Brazil vs Japan (or Croatia). And Brazil can be the only team to win all group stage games, if Brazil beat Cameroon. You've got to get past the wall of Kim's before you can start plotting your route through to the Finals. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Brazil will fall short, as usual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Not a pen for me, Cavani, wasn't in decent position to shoot anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, The Golden boy said: You've got to get past the wall of Kim's before you can start plotting your route through to the Finals. Jokes aside, that wall wasn't an issue a few months ago when Brazil beat them 5-1 in a friendly game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Some EUROs had a lot of drama back when while we had 16 teams, but can't remember anything like this at a World Cup. imo, just shows how much more evenly matched different teams are at international level... compared to 15-20 years ago. Quick look back at 2006 you had 11/32 teams that failed to win any of their games This year you've got 5-6 max., and that's only if Serbia and Cameroon lose later. Could be as low as four, and then 28/32 have won at least once. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, PMLF said: Europe pretty embarrassing this year, although they may still win in the end, like in 2014 when they looked bad at first too. 7/13, not bad considering the teams which qualified. Germany, Denmark and Belgium being the disappointments. South America is way worse. 2/4, with Peru being knocked out by Australia in the play-offs. Argentina on it's last legs with best players being old and Ecuador being the third best team, with others in the region having way worse generations than before (Uruguay, Colombia, Chile). Other than Brazil, future doesn't look bright. 1 minute ago, Rob1981 said: imo, just shows how much more evenly matched different teams are at international level... compared to 15-20 years ago. Quick look back at 2006 you had 11/32 teams that failed to win any of their games This year you've got 5-6 max., and that's only if Serbia and Cameroon lose later. Could be as low as four, and then 28/32 have won at least once. Yeah, even the teams that obviously lack quality caught up with tactics. Wasn't the case before, as you said. Edited December 2, 2022 by GunmaN1905 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Everyone in here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: imo, just shows how much more evenly matched different teams are at international level... compared to 15-20 years ago. Quick look back at 2006 you had 11/32 teams that failed to win any of their games This year you've got 5-6 max., and that's only if Serbia and Cameroon lose later. Could be as low as four, and then 28/32 have won at least once. It kinda does justify Fifa expanding the world cup to 48 teams really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunkerossian Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 My Korean class tomorrow morning will be so special. I feel as proud as a full-blooded Korean! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Valverde earlier... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 Now all the karmic justice which Uruguay brough upon themselves aside, VAR was an utter joke once again and decided the outcome of the group. Wasn't the case in two previous instances (Argentina and Croatia matches), but now it was. And those weren't intentional mistakes, just that they completely ruined the rulebook and the situation-to-situation criteria is changing based on nitpicking from that rulebooks instead of using common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Yeah, even the teams that obviously lack quality caught up with tactics. Wasn't the case before, as you said. I mean this is literally why you take a draw against the best team in your group Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden boy Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, PMLF said: Jokes aside, that wall wasn't an issue a few months ago when Brazil beat them 5-1 in a friendly game. They were down 3 Kim's at the start of the game, only Kim Seung-gyu (GK) and Kim Young-gwon (CB) started that, and Kim Moon-hwan (RB) came on later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Haguey said: It kinda does justify Fifa expanding the world cup to 48 teams really. Could instead keep 32 but reduce the amount of spots for Europe and South America (say one from each) and award them to Africa and Asia. Edited December 2, 2022 by PMLF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, john1 said: Not a pen for me, Cavani, wasn't in decent position to shoot anyway. Cavani one wasn't a penalty but the one on Nunez clearly was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Rob1981 said: I mean this is literally why you take a draw against the best team in your group Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Constantine said: Cavani one wasn't a penalty but the one on Nunez clearly was. Oh, I thought it was? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Haguey said: It kinda does justify Fifa expanding the world cup to 48 teams really. The opposite for me. This is the right amount of teams for great drama and upsets like we’ve seen so far. Adding dross only dilutes the quality. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pearcey_90 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 53 minutes ago, Weezer said: The opposite for me. This is the right amount of teams for great drama and upsets like we’ve seen so far. Adding dross only dilutes the quality. Depends what the dross is. Football in the lower nations is growing strong. Canada would’ve been classed as dross couple years ago and they were good entertainment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, pearcey_90 said: Depends what the dross is. Football in the lower nations is growing strong. Canada would’ve been classed as dross couple years ago and they were good entertainment. Beyond the nations that have already qualified Asia is terrible and the strongest African teams have made little impact at the tournament and there’s not much to suggest the 8th best African team would either. Also 48 is a stupid number to sensibly divide into a tournament format. All Canada have done is replace another interchangeable Central American nation that wouldn’t have made it past the first round. The World Cup should be kept exclusive, not let every man and his dog qualify like the Euros. It’s what makes it special. Edited December 2, 2022 by Weezer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 The Euros is proper ruined and it really upsets me. The 16 team Euros was the perfect international tournament. You might get the odd Bulgaria or Latvia some years but you'd have 10 minimum solid teams and it's all go from the start. Proper groups of deaths. It was pinnacle of quality international football 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Where's the other match thread? People bored now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, Andrew_ said: Where's the other match thread? People bored now? Someone should open it, I am too busy at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 @Darius1998 get on it ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Andrew_ said: @Darius1998 get on it ffs I thought @Coulthard's Jaw was the designated thread starter (well until he went back to work anyway). Anyway, it's up now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Cavani slightly frustrated by VAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 How far do South Korea need to go in order for the younger players to escape military service? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted December 2, 2022 Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Heartwork said: How far do South Korea need to go in order for the younger players to escape military service? They won't (escape military service). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted December 2, 2022 Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Weezer said: Beyond the nations that have already qualified Asia is terrible and the strongest African teams have made little impact at the tournament and there’s not much to suggest the 8th best African team would either. Also 48 is a stupid number to sensibly divide into a tournament format. All Canada have done is replace another interchangeable Central American nation that wouldn’t have made it past the first round. The World Cup should be kept exclusive, not let every man and his dog qualify like the Euros. It’s what makes it special. Need to have teams from other confederations qualifying or it's not really a World Cup. There's better ways they can slice the 48 to make the format better than is the current plan, and it sounds like it might still change. It's still not really clear how they can sustain a tournament that big going forward. Canada were great, could have been a different final game for them had they got their deserved point vs Belgium. They were also the best team from CONCACAF as well Can't really agree that Asia and Africa are terrible, both have sides in the R16 and at least one should reach QFs. I'd agree the main World Cup should stay at 32 teams, but I'd like to see a few less European and more elsewhere. Increase the playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Lucas said: I'd agree the main World Cup should stay at 32 teams, but I'd like to see a few less European and more elsewhere. Increase the playoffs. Yes, keep 32 teams, then remove one spot from Europe, remove one from South America, give one spot to Africa, and another one to Asia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Lucas said: Need to have teams from other confederations qualifying or it's not really a World Cup. We do, it’s fine as it is. 10 hours ago, Lucas said: Canada were great, could have been a different final game for them had they got their deserved point vs Belgium. They were also the best team from CONCACAF as well Yes Canada were great, everybody loves plucky Canada. They still lost 3 games and only Qatar had a worse record. Could have replaced them with Honduras or Panama and got the same outcome. 10 hours ago, Lucas said: Can't really agree that Asia and Africa are terrible, both have sides in the R16 and at least one should reach QFs How often have African and Asian teams got to a QF out of the strongest 4 or 5 teams of those continents to qualify? What do you think the 8th best African and Asian team is going to add to the quality of the tournament? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitutaki Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Africa have very good teams that don't qualify every time (Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Egypt etc) and deserve the 9 places they'll get next time, if not more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Keep it at 32, strip back some of Europe's spots, or go to 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Aitutaki said: Africa have very good teams that don't qualify every time (Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Egypt etc) and deserve the 9 places they'll get next time, if not more. Are they 'very good'? Or are they just recognised names in terms of African football? I'd like to see Africa get an extra spot just because I like seeing those names and teams in the event - just a bit cult seeing Nigeria at a World Cup - but I don't really think they're particularly good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) Nigeria have only made it out of the groups twice and 5 of their 6 World Cup wins have been against Bulgaria (x2), Iceland, Bosnia and Greece (the other against Spain in 98). Egypt have never won a World Cup game. They're recognised names, they’re not going to light up the tournament with their inclusion. Take a couple of places off Europe and give them to Africa and Asia if you must but having 8 teams each from those continents is ridiculous and you just turn the World Cup into what the Euros is becoming. Edited December 3, 2022 by Weezer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunkerossian Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 16 hours ago, Heartwork said: How far do South Korea need to go in order for the younger players to escape military service? Finishing 3rd might do it? I know winning the Asian Cup counts, and Olympic medals in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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