craigcwwe Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) Netherlands win and they top the group, Qatar of course, already out. Netherlands could still go out but that's rather unlikely so won't get into the permutations there. Simple this one, Ecuador just need to avoid defeat and they qualify for the last 16, Senegal therefore require a win to advance. Edited November 29, 2022 by craigcwwe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Make this a double thread for both games! Ecuador v Senegal is what the smart people are watching 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Expecting an easy and comfortable Dutch victory, so nothing to see here. The other game is where it's at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Netherlands lineup looks so... Underwhelming. But as long as they have that mad genius at the bench, I wouldn't count them out from making a decent run in the knockouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 5live plumped for Ecuador-Senegal. This really knocked me for six as there are no big names now Mane is injured so why would I be interested in the match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) Yeah, I think it's tradition to have one thread for both matches when you get to the final group games. I'll leave the Dutch to destroy Qatar and concentrate on Ecuador vs Senegal. Though I tipped Senegal to qualify from this group, based on what I've seen so far, I reckon Ecuador will pull off the win. Valencia has defied injury again and will hope to continue his scoring streak. Edited November 29, 2022 by CFuller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Mind you... hope they do it for the Wardrobe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiie Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Constantine said: Netherlands lineup looks so... Underwhelming. But as long as they have that mad genius at the bench, I wouldn't count them out from making a decent run in the knockouts. It looks like a lineup that's mostly worried about not losing, which is a bit silly against Qatar. Not to mention vGaal apparently not wanting to sub out any of the underperforming players despite some solid (if not even better) alternatives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahzun_Savas Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I am a bit surprised Ecuador have changed from their back 5 to a back 4. Estupinan getting forward on the left has been a major part of their attacking football. A back 4 would seem to mean he cannot be quite as attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 PERMUTATIONS: Netherlands are through if they avoid defeat against Qatar, or they can afford to lose if Ecuador beat Senegal. Ecuador are through if they avoid defeat against Senegal Senegal are through if they beat Ecuador; they could go through with a draw but only if Netherlands lose to Qatar and GD ends up in Senegal's favour. Does that about cover it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I think de Roon supporting Frenkie de Jong in the center will solve many issues from the previous games. Of course Qatar isn't really an opponent from the category that we will meet in the next round, but there's lessons to be learnt here. I also wonder if LvG will allow Xavi Simons and Noa Lang some time. Seems an ideal match for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Just now, Mahzun_Savas said: I am a bit surprised Ecuador have changed from their back 5 to a back 4. Estupinan getting forward on the left has been a major part of their attacking football. A back 4 would seem to mean he cannot be quite as attacking. It's certainly an interesting change for them, four points from their first two games and they need to avoid defeat here to advance, could backfire.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Just now, Rob1981 said: PERMUTATIONS: Netherlands are through if they avoid defeat against Qatar, or they can afford to lose if Ecuador beat Senegal. Ecuador are through if they avoid defeat against Senegal Senegal are through if they beat Ecuador; they could go through with a draw but only if Netherlands lose to Qatar and GD ends up in Senegal's favour. Does that about cover it? Knew you'd have them sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) double post Edited November 29, 2022 by DJ double post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) Netherlands will obviously will easily, Ecuador was way better than Senegal so far, but who knows. Gueye almost gets an early goal, unexpected. Edited November 29, 2022 by GunmaN1905 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Netherlands Vs Qatar on 3? Madness. At least Clive and Ally are commentating. Qatar had a shot will typing this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Good chance wasted early on for Senegal. Gueye of former Everton fame puts it wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Our players look dead nervous in the first few minutes. Qatar get the first shot of the match away, we give away the ball. C'mon, concentrate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, craigcwwe said: Good chance wasted early on for Senegal. Gueye of former Everton fame puts it wide. And current Everton fame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Senegal could/ should be 2 up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Ecuador looking really bad defensively, two passes and they're lost. Senegal should've been up by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) Wonder how far behind my phone's stream is. Did the Dia miss happen a few seconds ago or a few minutes ago? Edit: Never mind, the other game is a minute ahead on the TV. Edited November 29, 2022 by Darius1998 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Fun start to Senegal game. Wide open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, CFuller said: And current Everton fame. Didn't realise he rejoined them. Edited November 29, 2022 by craigcwwe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambolic Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Senegal getting in down the wings every time so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambolic Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 How is that not a yellow?! Can't get more deliberate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 No yellow, ref has mercy on a Qatar player. Most blatant hands ball ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 somebody planning on spending a holiday in Qatar perhaps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Are ITV doing this commentary offtube? Townsend noticed it was a corner only when it appeared on screen just then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Dutch ahead. Gakpo again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 3 in three for Gakpo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) DOELPUNT! Gakpo 1-0 Edited November 29, 2022 by DJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Netherlands finally in front, Gakpo with the goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambolic Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Guess we know who the 'James Rodriguez' of this tournament is! Great finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Are ITV doing this commentary offtube? Townsend noticed it was a corner only when it appeared on screen just then. He’s blind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Gakpo to Leeds Don't think so now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Rob1981 said: Gakpo to Leeds Don't think so now. We need a winger/attacking midfielder signing in Jan. Maybe I need to change my Eredivisie opinion in case it happens... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Gakpo to Leeds Don't think so now. Was linked to Saints too, that's dead in the dust as well now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, pearcey_90 said: We need a winger/attacking midfielder signing in Jan. Maybe I need to change my Eredivisie opinion in case it happens... 4 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Gakpo to Leeds Don't think so now. We had terms agreed with him in the summer but didn't go through with a deal as we had to pay more for Antony than expected. I think we'll go back in for him in January, especially now with Ronaldo gone and a hefty chunk of money saved on his wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Qatar even managed to build up some pressure there. Dutch chances are not too many and not great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Penalty Senegal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Clear penalty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Ronaldo-Iuliano penalty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Keeper?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 This could be a classic now Ecuador have got to go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Senegal lead, good for this game as it might open up a bit now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 What a ridiculous challenge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Keeper's never getting to that, tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Gakpo to Leeds Don't think so now. We tried quite desperately on deadline day apparently PSV and the player himself were rather reluctant. I don't think either have made the wrong decision... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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